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Post by chrislc on Aug 5, 2023 10:01:21 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but the highest debut seems to carry with it a "this is the best debut" and "this is going to be the biggest hit of this week's debuts" feeling, especially the way Casey introduces the song.
So, we have the week ending 11/18/1978. Among the debuts are Le Freak. And Too Much Heaven.
But the highest debut at #31 is...
Peter Asher's abortion of Ooh Baby Baby.
GAG! Pass the Kool-Aid, Reverend!
Any other examples of this kind of letdown?
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Post by mga707 on Aug 5, 2023 10:51:14 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but the highest debut seems to carry with it a "this is the best debut" and "this is going to be the biggest hit of this week's debuts" feeling, especially the way Casey introduces the song. So, we have the week ending 11/18/1978. Among the debuts are Le Freak. And Too Much Heaven. But the highest debut at #31 is... Peter Asher's abortion of Ooh Baby Baby. GAG! Pass the Kool-Aid, Reverend! Any other examples of this kind of letdown? Look no further than today's '70s On 7 show from this week (last week, actually) in 1970: Blasting into the 40 at #28 is..."Overture From 'Tommy'" by those all-time hitmakers, The Assembled Multitude! This instrumental version of The Who's work would peter out at #16. Five 'notches' lower The Who themselves debut with their rocking live version of "Summertime Blues", still a Classic Rock staple. |
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Post by djjoe1960 on Aug 5, 2023 11:04:05 GMT -5
To me, any song that debuts inside the Top 40 on the chart that doesn't make it into the Top 10 is a disappointment. Example--It's Raining Again by Supertramp debuted on the Billboard chart at #31 on October 30.1982 and would peak at #11.  One more Example--All Right by Christopher Cross entered the chart at #29 on January 15, 1983 and made it to #12.  |
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Post by LC on Aug 5, 2023 11:48:22 GMT -5
One more Example--All Right by Christopher Cross entered the chart at #29 on January 15, 1983 and made it to #12. This gets my vote for all-time letdown. After the popularity of his first album and a #1 with Arthur's Theme, we ALL expected big things from his second record. I don't think at the time people realized how radically MTV was going to reshape the music biz and kill the careers of non-videogenic artists. |
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Post by torcan on Aug 5, 2023 15:02:54 GMT -5
To me, any song that debuts inside the Top 40 on the chart that doesn't make it into the Top 10 is a disappointment. Example--It's Raining Again by Supertramp debuted on the Billboard chart at #31 on October 30.1982 and would peak at #11. One more Example--All Right by Christopher Cross entered the chart at #29 on January 15, 1983 and made it to #12. The Christopher Cross song was a bit of a heartbreaker for me. I was a huge fan of his first album and was hoping for bigger things from his second. When it debuted so high I thought for sure it would be a top 10 hit, but after that strong debut it moved quite slowly - even holding at No. 16 for three weeks before moving to its eventual peak position of No. 12. At least it was enough to make it into the top 100 for the year, but other national charts had it in the top 10. His album spent five weeks at No. 11 and just couldn't quite push into the top 10. |
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Post by djjoe1960 on Aug 6, 2023 4:50:09 GMT -5
To me, any song that debuts inside the Top 40 on the chart that doesn't make it into the Top 10 is a disappointment. Example--It's Raining Again by Supertramp debuted on the Billboard chart at #31 on October 30.1982 and would peak at #11. One more Example--All Right by Christopher Cross entered the chart at #29 on January 15, 1983 and made it to #12. The Christopher Cross song was a bit of a heartbreaker for me. I was a huge fan of his first album and was hoping for bigger things from his second. When it debuted so high I thought for sure it would be a top 10 hit, but after that strong debut it moved quite slowly - even holding at No. 16 for three weeks before moving to its eventual peak position of No. 12. At least it was enough to make it into the top 100 for the year, but other national charts had it in the top 10. His album spent five weeks at No. 11 and just couldn't quite push into the top 10. True, All Right did make it to #9 in Cash Box and #3 on the Radio & Records chart. Many of us in radio used to call those songs 'turntable' hits (songs that were more popular in airplay than in actual sales). Supertramp's 'Raining', reached #2 in R & R, while making it to #7 in Cash Box, which perhaps points out the importance of having more than one popularity chart--and perhaps leads to the frequency a song is played as an 'oldie' over the years. |
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Post by mrjukebox on Aug 6, 2023 7:35:57 GMT -5
In May 1975,Chicago debuted at # 17 with "Old Days"-It looked like a sure fire # 1 hit-Unfortunately,it stopped at # 5.
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Post by mrjukebox on Aug 6, 2023 11:13:13 GMT -5
"Live & Let Die" by Paul Mc Cartney & Wings in July 1973-It debuted at # 28-The following week,it moved up to # 21-The following week,it shot up to # 3-It then moved up one notch to # 2-Unfortunately,that's where it peaked.
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Post by chrislc on Aug 6, 2023 11:22:50 GMT -5
In May 1975,Chicago debuted at # 17 with "Old Days"-It looked like a sure fire # 1 hit-Unfortunately,it stopped at # 5. This one is really hard for me to figure out. There is nothing I can think of about that record or that artist at that time - or the chart competition - which would explain such a loss of momentum, other than the one record by The Captain and Tennille. But you'd think Old Days still should have made it to #2. Possibly Old Days didn't appeal to teens, who couldn't relate? |
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Post by classicat40fan on Aug 6, 2023 13:34:03 GMT -5
To me, any song that debuts inside the Top 40 on the chart that doesn't make it into the Top 10 is a disappointment. Example--It's Raining Again by Supertramp debuted on the Billboard chart at #31 on October 30.1982 and would peak at #11. One more Example--All Right by Christopher Cross entered the chart at #29 on January 15, 1983 and made it to #12. All Right actually debuted the week oF January 22, 1983, not January 15 |
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Post by jlthorpe on Aug 6, 2023 13:56:51 GMT -5
The ultimate example: "Erotica" by Madonna debuting at #2 on AT40 and never reaching #1.
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Post by 80sat40fan on Aug 6, 2023 16:10:21 GMT -5
To me, any song that debuts inside the Top 40 on the chart that doesn't make it into the Top 10 is a disappointment. I agree with this thought. Also, any song that debuts on AT40 at #30 or higher (but was on the Hot 100 the week before) and doesn't make the Top 10 is a disappointment for me. On the 8/8/70 chart, "Big Yellow Taxi" by Neighbourhood was the highest debut at #30 yet only peaked one notch higher at #29. "Ghetto Child" by The Spinners did the same thing in in 1973. Also, a song which ends up being the highest debut of the week but it's only because the song was #41 the week before. Case in point... "Give To Live" by Sammy Hagar which moved from #41 to #34 to be the highest debut on the 8/1/87 show. "When Smokey Sings" by ABC and "Doin' It All For My Baby" by Huey Lewis & The News were lower AT40 debuts but ended up being Top 10 hits. |
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Post by LC on Aug 6, 2023 19:50:19 GMT -5
To me, any song that debuts inside the Top 40 on the chart that doesn't make it into the Top 10 is a disappointment. I agree with this thought. Also, any song that debuts on AT40 at #30 or higher (but was on the Hot 100 the week before) and doesn't make the Top 10 is a disappointment for me. On the 8/8/70 chart, "Big Yellow Taxi" by Neighbourhood was the highest debut at #30 yet only peaked one notch higher at #29. "Ghetto Child" by The Spinners did the same thing in in 1973. Two others come to mind. Moneytalks by AC/DC entered at #29 (up from 42) on 1/26/91 but peaked at #23. In a Big Country by Big Country entered at #30 (up from 44) on 11/12/83 and peaked at #17. |
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Post by trekkielo on Aug 7, 2023 6:37:56 GMT -5
In May 1975,Chicago debuted at # 17 with "Old Days"-It looked like a sure fire # 1 hit-Unfortunately,it stopped at # 5. Electric Light Orchestra had a similar fate, debuting at #18 on AT40 with "Don't Bring Me Down" on August 11th, 1979, after its Billboard Hot 100 debut at #41 for 8/4/1979, it also looked like a sure fire #1 hit, unfortunately, it'd stop at #4 and an RIAA Gold record! |
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Post by 1finemrg on Aug 7, 2023 6:38:51 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones made their Top 40 debut at #22 (previous week #42) on February 2, 1974 with "Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)". It could only muster a #15 peak 3 weeks later.
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