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Post by lasvegaskid on Jul 10, 2022 19:36:42 GMT -5
Casey's first chart 7/11/70.. Elvis, Beatles, Moody Blues or his final chart 8/6/88..Elt, H&O, Moody Blues??
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Post by dth1971 on Jul 10, 2022 19:40:53 GMT -5
7/11/1970 is my guess.
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Post by chrislc on Jul 10, 2022 19:44:56 GMT -5
Casey's first chart 7/11/70.. Elvis, Beatles, Moody Blues or his final chart 8/6/88..Elt, H&O, Moody Blues?? With the possible exception of The Pipkins, this is a no-brainer. And age is no excuse to believe otherwise!  |
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Post by BrettVW on Jul 10, 2022 21:00:30 GMT -5
8/6/88 has some solid artists. But IMO it doesn't even come close to being the best from any of those artists.
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Post by trekkielo on Jul 11, 2022 15:32:06 GMT -5
7/4/1970 Using 7/11/1970 Chart!  |
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Post by djjoe1960 on Jul 11, 2022 16:01:37 GMT -5
I think AT40's first show was musically stronger than Casey's original first run show--and considering it was on only 7 stations, it still stands up as the program AT40 would become over the years. They were taking a big chance that the show would succeed on a national level because before AT40 broke through to practically every market, people didn't generally care (or know) how their favorite songs were performing around the country. The show gave us (fans) a new way to know about songs we liked and how it they were received nation wide, in addition to providing fun info and trivia (especially in the pre-internet days).
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Post by matt on Jul 12, 2022 11:36:34 GMT -5
8/6/88 has some solid artists. But IMO it doesn't even come close to being the best from any of those artists. My thoughts too -- all of the artists that LVK mentions were well past their primes and the songs on the 8/6/88 chart don't typically rank among their best (though I will admit I really like Elton John's and H&O's hits on that show). While I would tend to listen to 1988 more over 1970, I am guessing most would say the 7/11/70 top 40 would be the preferable set of songs. The Moody Blues' 1988 cut was their last top 40 hit and it was really just so-so (more or less a re-write of "Your Wildest Dreams"?). Elvis on the other hand, was mentioned in regard to the 7/11/70 show and IMHO he was well past his prime by that time. With maybe 2 or 3 notable exceptions, Elvis' 1970s hits leave a LOT to be desired. A couple other notable artists from both 1970 and 1988: Chicago -- their chart career was underway by 1970, which included a couple of their best hits in "25 or 6 to 4" and "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is". By 1988 they had lost Peter Cetera and their style had devolved into overly produced AC dreck, making them almost unlistenable. Fewer better examples of this than their song on the 8/6/88 top 40. The Jacksons/Michael Jackson -- the Jacksons were in their prime in 1970 and many of the hits they had then were bona fide classics. In 1988, MJ was in the midst of his Bad LP run which was hugely successful, but some of the songs from that album, including the ones on the 8/6/88 Hot 100, didn't seem to hold up as well over time. |
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Post by Hervard on Jul 15, 2022 19:03:55 GMT -5
This might sound strange coming from me, but even I agree that the first show was musically stronger, for many of the reasons given above. My favorite of the two shows - well, now that's a horse of a different color  |
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Post by lasvegaskid on Jul 23, 2022 19:30:37 GMT -5
www.charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/1970-0711.pdfwww.charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/1988-0806.pdfThe most scientific approach I could come up with was a position by position result. 1988 represented nicely but especially in the upper reaches, 1970 just had too many classics. And there were some heavyweight battles in which 1988 had a tough draw: H&O vs Eric Burdon/War, Chicago vs. Beatles and Elt vs. Carpenters where 1970 could be considered a career highlight kinda song for all those acts. And then there were some where it wasn't a fair fight, ie Elvis' classic vs. Jane Wiedlin?! 40 1988 39 Tie 38 1970 37 1988 36 1970 35 1988 34 1970 33 1988 32 1988 31 1988 30 1988 29 1970 28 Tie 27 1970 26 1970 25 1988 24 1970 23 1988 22 1970 21 Tie 20 1970 19 1988 18 1988 17 1970 16 1970 15 1988 14 Tie 13 1970 12 1970 11 1988 10 1970 9 1970 8 1988 7 1970 6 1970 5 1970 4 Tie 3 1970 2 1970 1 1970
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Post by Rodney on Jul 23, 2022 20:03:14 GMT -5
So it’s 1970-21, 1988-14… Fairly decisive victory. As LVK says, a real blowout in the Top 10… 1970 wins 8-1
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Post by mrjukebox on Jul 23, 2022 20:27:52 GMT -5
The initial broadcast of "AT40" on the 4th of July weekend 1970 is a keeper.
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Post by lasvegaskid on Jul 24, 2023 10:00:05 GMT -5
8/6/88 has some solid artists. But IMO it doesn't even come close to being the best from any of those artists. Bumping in honor of next week's reairing of the final show! One of those songs was the guys Missed Opportunity. It's a nice enough song and it would have been a big hit in Summer 1982. But this kinda yacht rock sound was long gone from radio by Summer 1988. Toto released a similar yacht rocker, Pamela, a few months earlier and it too petered out mid chart. Summer of 1988 had lots of high energy songs, even Elt had a rocker, so this one by H&O sounded out of place. |
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Post by trekkielo on Jul 24, 2023 18:39:27 GMT -5
So it’s 1970-21, 1988-14… Fairly decisive victory. As LVK says, a real blowout in the Top 10… 1970 wins 8-1 My own personal rankings would still be in favor of 7/4/1970-7/11/1970 by a 17-12-11 record with changes from LVK's list in bold... 40 1988 39 Tie 38 1970 37 1988 36 1970 35 1988 34 1970 33 1988 32 1988 31 1988 30 Tie29 1970 28 Tie 27 1970 26 1970 25 1988 24 Tie23 1988 22 198821 197020 Tie19 1988 18 1988 17 1970 16 1970 15 197014 Tie 13 1970 12 1970 11 Tie10 Tie9 Tie8 19707 Tie6 19885 1970 4 Tie 3 1970 2 1970 1 1970 |
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