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Post by woolebull on Jun 20, 2022 15:25:13 GMT -5
I am sure many of you have been following the remarkable resurrection of Kate Bush's "Running Up That Hill" on the Hot 100. Now, it looks like there is going to be a good chance that it will actually resurface on American Top 40.
As of today, "Hill" currently sits at 29 on the Mediabase CHR chart, the chart that is used to tabulate American Top 40. While that doesn't mean it will debut (or re-debut) at 29 because of recurrents not listed, it is a pretty good sign that it has more than a chance to be back on AT. What a wild time!
My question is this: has there been any other song from AT's first run (1970-1988) that also appeared on AT 40 with Shadoe (1988-1995), CT 40, or AT 40 from 1998 to the present since "Bohemian Rhapsody"? I can literally only think of that and "Into The Night" as the only two songs to have ever done it (you could also argue Real Life and "Send Me An Angel", I suppose).
This is truly a once in a generational thing we are seeing with Kate Bush. It is awesome to watch!
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Post by Hervard on Jun 20, 2022 15:38:18 GMT -5
What was the cause of the song's resurgence?
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Post by LC on Jun 20, 2022 15:50:48 GMT -5
Its use in season 4 of "Stranger Things."
I can think of some other 80s songs I'd love to see be resurrected as hits today, artists who never got proper respect in the US....
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Post by Jessica on Jun 20, 2022 15:50:48 GMT -5
^^ That tv show “Stranger Things” on Netflix
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Post by Jessica on Jun 20, 2022 15:51:18 GMT -5
Its use in season 4 of "Stranger Things." I can think of some other 80s songs I'd love to see be resurrected as hits today.... Yes! I have some ideas.
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Post by trekkielo on Jun 20, 2022 15:56:44 GMT -5
December 1963 (Oh What a Night) by The Four Seasons in 1976 and 1994.
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Post by woolebull on Jun 20, 2022 15:57:45 GMT -5
What was the cause of the song's resurgence? It has a prominent role in Season 4 of "Stranger Things", particularly one episode. It started out with streams, which led to re-entering the Hot 100 at 8, jumping to 4, and this coming week dropping to 5. Unlike other songs that hit because of a show/video/tiktok "Hill" is starting to get airplay around the country and world. With the second part of "Things" season 4 dropping in two weeks along with the airplay happening, right now there is a solid shot that "Hill" isn't going away from the charts for a while. Interesting to note: I noticed that when it re-entered the Hot 100 it was on its 21st week, which means it spent 20 weeks on the Hot 100 in its first run which was a massive amount of weeks in 1985/86 for a song that only made it to 30. The only other song comparative to that at that time was Starpoint's "Object of My Desire". "Object" was also used in "Stranger Things" this season.
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Post by woolebull on Jun 20, 2022 15:59:03 GMT -5
December 1963 (Oh What a Night) by The Four Seasons in 1976 and 1994. Good catch!
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Post by Mike on Jun 20, 2022 18:40:08 GMT -5
Some things. I would not lump "Send Me an Angel" or "December 1963" in with "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Into the Night". "Angel" was remixed slightly and specifically re-released, while "December 1963" was remixed a little more than slightly, and that was released - I.E. they came back because they were being re-released anyway. "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Into the Night", on the other hand - Queen had Wayne's World prompting renewed interest in the song, and Benny had stations picking that and playing it the second time, just because. I.E. they came back because they had renewed interest that prompted the re-releases. Had "In Your Eyes" not stopped one notch short of The 40 in 1989, we'd be tossing that in here as well courtesy of Say Anything... So, first two: re-release prompted the renewed interest. Last two: renewed interest prompted the re-release. Make sense? (Kate Bush, obviously, goes in the latter category as the first to do this sort of thing since Queen.) Now, as to its longer-than-average Hot 100 run in 1985 - that year seems to have been the year for songs to do that. Several songs had long Hot 100 runs that year, despite either peaking low within the Top 40 or even missing the Top 40 altogether. To get a full scope of how widespread it was that year, will require a list. Lastly: You appear to be mixing up the two charts. I'm seeing Kate at #28 for Hot AC, but only #34 for CHR. That's today's chart update, though. But due to having more forward progress there, she might get onto the Hot AC countdown first, if only by a week ahead of CHR.
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Post by woolebull on Jun 20, 2022 20:32:15 GMT -5
Some things. I would not lump "Send Me an Angel" or "December 1963" in with "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Into the Night". "Angel" was remixed slightly and specifically re-released, while "December 1963" was remixed a little more than slightly, and that was released - I.E. they came back because they were being re-released anyway. "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Into the Night", on the other hand - Queen had Wayne's World prompting renewed interest in the song, and Benny had stations picking that and playing it the second time, just because. I.E. they came back because they had renewed interest that prompted the re-releases. Had "In Your Eyes" not stopped one notch short of The 40 in 1989, we'd be tossing that in here as well courtesy of Say Anything... So, first two: re-release prompted the renewed interest. Last two: renewed interest prompted the re-release. Make sense? (Kate Bush, obviously, goes in the latter category as the first to do this sort of thing since Queen.) Now, as to its longer-than-average Hot 100 run in 1985 - that year seems to have been the year for songs to do that. Several songs had long Hot 100 runs that year, despite either peaking low within the Top 40 or even missing the Top 40 altogether. To get a full scope of how widespread it was that year, will require a list. Lastly: You appear to be mixing up the two charts. I'm seeing Kate at #28 for Hot AC, but only #34 for CHR. That's today's chart update, though. But due to having more forward progress there, she might get onto the Hot AC countdown first, if only by a week ahead of CHR. Oh, I totally agree with "Angel". And I was going to ask about "December" as I thought it had been remixed. Though I get why people would say they appeared again, even in remixed form. I would also argue that the long runs in late 1985/early 1986 were not just for lower rung top 40 hits. It's one of the reasons "I Miss You" would end up the number three song of 1986. I would like to see a list of these songs, as you mentioned to see if it was wide spread or just outliers. For every "Hill" or "Object" on the charts from mid 1985 to fall 1986 you had Billy Joel, and well, Billy Joel along with Cyndi Lauper and Pet Shop Boys having some of the shortest runs (if not the shortest runs) top 10 songs would have on AT 40 in the 80's. (1989 seems to fit in this same vein as well). As for the Mediabase Chart, the MB chart I follow is called the "Daily Double" which gives more real time accuracy to the spins of a song. I just double checked and as of 12:15 today, it had jumped from 60 to 29. On the HAC she is at 28. Not sure where you got the #34 from. In any event, it is absolutely amazing this is going down!
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Post by trekkielo on Jun 20, 2022 20:39:36 GMT -5
Some things. I would not lump "Send Me an Angel" or "December 1963" in with "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Into the Night". "Angel" was remixed slightly and specifically re-released, while "December 1963" was remixed a little more than slightly, and that was released - I.E. they came back because they were being re-released anyway. "Bohemian Rhapsody" and "Into the Night", on the other hand - Queen had Wayne's World prompting renewed interest in the song, and Benny had stations picking that and playing it the second time, just because. I.E. they came back because they had renewed interest that prompted the re-releases. Had "In Your Eyes" not stopped one notch short of The 40 in 1989, we'd be tossing that in here as well courtesy of Say Anything... So, first two: re-release prompted the renewed interest. Last two: renewed interest prompted the re-release. Make sense? (Kate Bush, obviously, goes in the latter category as the first to do this sort of thing since Queen.) That wasn't exactly the question by woolebull which was this... My question is this: has there been any other song from AT's first run (1970-1988) that also appeared on AT 40 with Shadoe (1988-1995), CT 40, or AT 40 from 1998 to the present since "Bohemian Rhapsody"? I can literally only think of that and "Into The Night" as the only two songs to have ever done it (you could also argue Real Life and "Send Me An Angel", I suppose).
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Post by trekkielo on Jun 20, 2022 20:45:56 GMT -5
top40weekly.com/top-20-songs-charted-twice-by-same-artist/Here is a list of songs that repeated a Top 20 success twice by the same artist. Chubby Checker – The Twist (1960 and 1961) (#1 both times) Ben E. King – Stand By Me (#4 in 1961 and #9 in 1986) The Contours – Do You Love Me (#3 in 1962 and #11 in 1988) Bobby “Boris” Pickett & Crypt-Kickers – Monster Mash (#1 in 1962 and #10 in 1973) The Safaris – Wipeout (#2 in 1963 and #16 in 1966) The Righteous Brothers – Unchained Melody (#4 in 1965 and #13 in 1990) Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody (#9 in 1976 and #2 in 1992) Benny Mardones – Into the Night (#11 in 1980 and #20 in 1989) Whitney Houston – The Star-Spangled Banner (#20 in 1991 and #6 in 2001) Whitney Houston – I Will Always Love You (#1 in 1992 and #3 in 2012) Prince & The Revolution – Purple Rain (#2 in 1984 and #4 in 2016) * Prince – When Doves Cry (#1 in 1984 and #8 in 2016) * Prince – Little Red Corvette (#6 in 1983 and #20 in 2016) * “Twist and Shout” by The Beatles came close, by the way. In 1964 it hit #2 and in 1986 it hit #23. ** Honorable Mention: Layla (#10 in 1972 by Derek & The Dominoes and #12 by Eric Clapton in 1992) *** Other songs that charted a second time in a different form: The Ventures – Walk, Don’t Run / Walk Don’t Run ’64 (#2 in 1960 and #8 in 1964) (Same song, new recording) Neil Sedaka – Breaking Up Is Hard To Do (#1 in 1962 and #8 in 1976) (Fast and slow versions) Elton John – Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me (#2 in 1974 and #1 in 1991) (as a solo and as a duet with George Michael) Four Seasons – December 1963 (Oh What A Night) (#1 in 1976 and #14 in 1994) (Pop version and remix version) Elton John – Candle in the Wind (#6 in 1987 and #1 in 1997) (live version and re-record version) * Others were included in the re-issuing of Prince songs in 2016, due to his untimely death, but the three above were the only ones to hit Top 20. To view Prince’s posthumous releases, you can view them in them HERE. When you go to that page, scroll down to May 7th to begin Prince’s re-appearances on the Billboard charts. ** As a fun trivia, the re-emergence of “Twist And Shout” in 1986 was directly made possible by its appearance in the film, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, but also arguably in the 1986 Rodney Dangerfield comedy, Back To School. Both movies were released in June of 1986. However, the Back To School performance of the song was by Dangerfield himself, as opposed to the Bueller version actually being The Beatles. But it was a great coincidence that the song appeared in two movies at the same time (and both moves had a reference to school, albeit different concepts where one goes to school and the other skips school). Many other songs had their re-appearances on the charts due to movies, “Unchained Melody” was a hit again because of the 1990 Patrick Swayze/Demi Moore movie, Ghost. “Do You Love Me” came about again because of its inclusion in that other big Swayze movie, 1987’s Dirty Dancing (with Jennifer Grey, also of Ferris Bueller’s Day Off). And of course, Ben E. King’s “Stand By Me” had a movie named after it and was taken from the 1986 Rob Reiner film of the same name. But who can forget that “totally awesome” moment in Wayne’s World (1992, with Mike Myers and Dana Carvey) singing and headbanging to “Bohemian Rhapsody” in their AMC Pacer? Freddie Mercury had passed away in November 1991, just three months before the movie’s release, but died while the movie was in production. The MTV video got heavy rotation, which assisted in the release of the song, but arguably Mercury’s death would be inevitable to its re-release, being one of Mercury’s most accomplished pieces of music. And by the way, it has been reported that Mercury did get to see the Wayne’s World scene before his passing, and was said to have loved it and approved of it being used. *** While most will see “Layla” as strictly an Eric Clapton song, it was recorded by the band, Derek & The Dominoes (with Clapton, Jim Gordon, Bobby Whitlock, Carl Radle and featuring Duane Allman on slide guitar). Eric had once claimed that he was “just a member of the band”, despite forming it as a side project, “Layla” is still synonymous with Clapton’s work. However, the Billboard showing of “Layla” in 1971 and 1972 was listed as a Derek & The Dominoes chart release. So it gets an honorable, but substantial mention. On a related note, however, “Bell Bottom Blues” was recorded and released as an album cut by Derek & The Dominoes (available on Side One of the Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs album in 1970) but then released in 1971 as a solo Clapton single, and then again in 1973, charting as Eric Clapton (Derek & The Dominoes). This lays the foundation to the whole “Layla” discussion. But deep down, we all know it’s just an Eric Clapton masterpiece.
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Post by trekkielo on Jun 20, 2022 21:12:39 GMT -5
Notes Into the Night (Benny Mardones song)"Into the Night" is a track that Mardones re-recorded many times: The original and best-known 1980 version, which can be found on the album Never Run, Never Hide, duration: 4:32. The 1989 version, released on Curb Records to capitalize on the renewed success of the original; this version can be found on his self-titled album, duration: 4:22. The 2002 version, which can be found on the album A Journey Through Time, duration: 4:26. The 2002 acoustic version, also found on A Journey Through Time, duration: 4:08. The 2019 version, retitled "Into the Night V3", produced by Joel Diamond, duration: 3:46. A new music video of this song can be found on Diamond's YouTube channel. "Into the Night V3" was also remixed twice, by Dirty Werk and by Eric Kupper. These two versions are more influenced by dance than Mardones's usual soft rock trademark. Mardones originally released "Into the Night" in June 1980. The song peaked at No. 11 on the Hot 100 for two weeks in September 1980, logging 20 weeks on the chart before falling off in late October. Mardones was unable to duplicate the success of "Into the Night" and is considered a one-hit wonder. In 1989, a "Where Are They Now?" Arizona radio segment spurred L.A. DJ Scott Shannon to add the song to his playlist, ultimately rocketing the song back onto the national charts, on May 6, 1989. It peaked this time at #20 in the first week in July, adding 17 weeks to its previous run of 20, to add up to a total of 37 (nonconsecutive) weeks. "Into the Night" was a hit on Adult Contemporary radio this time as well, where it spent 19 weeks and peaked at #20. December, 1963 (Oh, What a Night)Ben Liebrand remix In 1988, Dutch DJ and producer Ben Liebrand remixed the song and re-released it as a single. In 1993, Curb Records, who released the original version of the song, picked up the 1988 remix and released it to the U.S. market. The 1993 re-release spent 27 weeks on the Hot 100 (matching the chart life of the original 1975 single). The peak position of the remix version was #14. Adding together the two 27-week chart runs for the 1975 original single and the remixed version (for a combined total of 54 weeks, two more weeks than a full year) gave the song the longest tenure ever on the Billboard Hot 100 music chart up to that time.
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Post by Mike on Jun 20, 2022 21:33:23 GMT -5
And I was going to ask about "December" as I thought it had been remixed. Though I get why people would say they appeared again, even in remixed form. On the Hot 100, Billboard treated it like any other re-release, thus it was like the same song getting two chart runs (allowing it to break the existing longevity record at that point, with 54 total chart weeks altogether). I would also argue that the long runs in late 1985/early 1986 were not just for lower rung top 40 hits. It's one of the reasons "I Miss You" would end up the number three song of 1986. True, though I focused on the lower-charting instances in my previous reply as that's where Kate's initial 20-week run would be applicable. As for the Mediabase Chart, the MB chart I follow is called the "Daily Double" which gives more real time accuracy to the spins of a song. I just double checked and as of 12:15 today, it had jumped from 60 to 29. On the HAC she is at 28. Link?
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Post by woolebull on Jun 20, 2022 21:55:08 GMT -5
And I was going to ask about "December" as I thought it had been remixed. Though I get why people would say they appeared again, even in remixed form. On the Hot 100, Billboard treated it like any other re-release, thus it was like the same song getting two chart runs (allowing it to break the existing longevity record at that point, with 54 total chart weeks altogether). I would also argue that the long runs in late 1985/early 1986 were not just for lower rung top 40 hits. It's one of the reasons "I Miss You" would end up the number three song of 1986. True, though I focused on the lower-charting instances in my previous reply as that's where Kate's initial 20-week run would be applicable. As for the Mediabase Chart, the MB chart I follow is called the "Daily Double" which gives more real time accuracy to the spins of a song. I just double checked and as of 12:15 today, it had jumped from 60 to 29. On the HAC she is at 28. Link? hitsdd.section101.com/mediabase_chart_details&fmt=H1
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