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Post by dth1971 on Oct 31, 2021 9:08:07 GMT -5
Since 12/17/1983 Casey on AT40 started to mention the droppers each week on a regular basis, though there were several AT40 shows post December 1983 where the droppers didn't get mentioned such as this weekend's AT40: The 80's show of 11/2/1985. Here are the shows I can think of:
1/7/1984 (guest hosted by Charlie Van Dyke)
5/17/1985
10/19/1985 (where "Broken Wings" by Mr. Mister was the only debut)
11/16/1985
12/21/1985
12/21/1991 (week 4 of the Billboard Top 40 Radio Monitor chart source format)
6/27/1992 (where "Good Stuff" by the B-52's was the only debut)
1/16/1993 (second week of the Billboard Top 40 Mainstream chart source format)
HONORABLE MENTIONS:
* From November 1988 to June 1989 then AT40 host Shadoe Stevens took a hiatus from mentioning each week's AT40 droppers, Shadoe wouldn't resume them until the 7/1/1989 AT40 show the week after Debbie Gibson guest hosted for Shadoe.
* Though close calls: When Charlie Van Dyke guest hosted for Casey Kasem on 8/10/1985 the 2 droppers of that week were not mentioned until hour 2, and there was a Shadoe AT40 in 1991 where the droppers were not mentioned until hour 3!
Any other AT40 shows post December 1983 you can think of where the droppers of the week were not mentioned?
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Post by Hervard on Oct 31, 2021 15:01:54 GMT -5
There was February 7, 1987, and also a show sometime in the fall of 1987. Thinking it might have been 10/31/1987, but I can't be sure.
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Post by dth1971 on Oct 31, 2021 18:16:13 GMT -5
There was February 7, 1987, and also a show sometime in the fall of 1987. Thinking it might have been 10/31/1987, but I can't be sure. Maybe 11/21/1987? |
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Post by matt on Nov 1, 2021 12:22:53 GMT -5
Since 12/17/1983 Casey on AT40 started to mention the droppers each week on a regular basis, though there were several AT40 shows post December 1983 where the droppers didn't get mentioned such as this weekend's AT40: The 80's show of 11/2/1985. Here are the shows I can think of: 1/7/1984 (guest hosted by Charlie Van Dyke) 5/17/1985 10/19/1985 (where "Broken Wings" by Mr. Mister was the only debut) 11/16/1985 12/21/1985 12/21/1991 (week 4 of the Billboard Top 40 Radio Monitor chart source format) 6/27/1992 (where "Good Stuff" by the B-52's was the only debut) 1/16/1993 (second week of the Billboard Top 40 Mainstream chart source format) HONORABLE MENTIONS: * From November 1988 to June 1989 then AT40 host Shadoe Stevens took a hiatus from mentioning each week's AT40 droppers, Shadoe wouldn't resume them until the 7/1/1989 AT40 show the week after Debbie Gibson guest hosted for Shadoe. * Though close calls: When Charlie Van Dyke guest hosted for Casey Kasem on 8/10/1985 the 2 droppers of that week were not mentioned until hour 2, and there was a Shadoe AT40 in 1991 where the droppers were not mentioned until hour 3! Any other AT40 shows post December 1983 you can think of where the droppers of the week were not mentioned? Funny thing about 10/19/85 -- Casey did mention that "Broken Wings" was that week's only debut, which would've been a perfect segue into saying what song was the dropper (it was "Power of Love" btw)... |
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Post by dth1971 on Nov 1, 2021 20:48:40 GMT -5
There have also been a few Casey's Top 40 shows from December 1996 to early 1998 where the droppers are not mentioned. The earliest I can think of was the December 7-8, 1996 CT40 episode when David Perry was guest hosting for Casey Kasem and the highest debut in that show was The Artist Formerly Known as Prince's remake of the Stylistics' "Betcha By Golly Wow".
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Post by dth1971 on Nov 5, 2021 8:24:52 GMT -5
I can add another to the list: 5/12/1990 - The first Shadoe Stevens AT40 show done on location at Walt Disney World in Florida.
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Post by Hervard on Nov 5, 2021 17:09:31 GMT -5
I can add another to the list: 5/12/1990 - The first Shadoe Stevens AT40 show done on location at Walt Disney World in Florida. I remember that one. I was trying to figure out the droppers (since, as you said, Shadoe did not read them off) and had pretty much come to the conclusion that "Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)', "If U Were Mine" were two of them. Then as they got closer to the Top 30, I figured that "Forever" and "Black Velvet" were the other two, but when they began playing the latter at #29 (dropping only one spot, no less), I was like, "HUH?" Not long after, it occurred to me that the Timmy T song that had debuted the week before was the other dropper. |
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Nov 8, 2021 6:17:22 GMT -5
I don't recall Shadoe mentioning Timmy T's song being mentioned as a dropper either.
There was also an AT40 from the Shadoe era that had a song drop out after just one week on the top 40 - the song was "I Want You" by Shana. The song debuted at #40 on January 13, 1990 and dropped out the following week on January 20, 1990. I don't recall hearing Shadoe mentioning Shana's song dropping out, unless it was mentioned much later in the show. Could be possible that January 20, 1990 could be another show to add to the list of post-1983 shows without droppers being acknowledged on-air.
I also remember the July 1, 1989 show where Shadoe started mentioning the songs dropping out of the top 40. This trend returned because of letters from fans that Shadoe received, and they were wondering why such mentions were dropped.
THIS JUST IN: Another show that did not feature the droppers being mentioned - the final episode of the original run of AT40, aired on January 28, 1995. It was not known by many users who are from the U.S. due to AT40 being dropped by every U.S. radio station in July 1994, but my local radio station, OZ FM in Newfoundland, Canada, was one of the fortunate few radio stations to air the final episode of the original run of AT40, but that is because they aired CT40 as well - OZ FM was good at managing time well, it seems. That final show from January 1995 had zero debuts, but one song - "Shame" by Zhane - re-entering. They should have at least mentioned the only song dropping out that week, but for those who are wondering what the only song that dropped out that week was, it was "Something's Always Wrong" by Toad the Wet Sprocket.
The really peculiar thing is, the final AT20 show on July 4, 2009 did have debuts and I believe the droppers were also mentioned.
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Post by dth1971 on Nov 8, 2021 7:27:17 GMT -5
I don't recall Shadoe mentioning Timmy T's song being mentioned as a dropper either. There was also an AT40 from the Shadoe era that had a song drop out after just one week on the top 40 - the song was "I Want You" by Shana. The song debuted at #40 on January 13, 1990 and dropped out the following week on January 20, 1990. I don't recall hearing Shadoe mentioning Shana's song dropping out, unless it was mentioned much later in the show. Could be possible that January 20, 1990 could be another show to add to the list of post-1983 shows without droppers being acknowledged on-air. I also remember the July 1, 1989 show where Shadoe started mentioning the songs dropping out of the top 40. This trend returned because of letters from fans that Shadoe received, and they were wondering why such mentions were dropped. THIS JUST IN: Another show that did not feature the droppers being mentioned - the final episode of the original run of AT40, aired on January 28, 1995. It was not known by many users who are from the U.S. due to AT40 being dropped by every U.S. radio station in July 1994, but my local radio station, OZ FM in Newfoundland, Canada, was one of the fortunate few radio stations to air the final episode of the original run of AT40, but that is because they aired CT40 as well - OZ FM was good at managing time well, it seems. That final show from January 1995 had zero debuts, but one song - "Shame" by Zhane - re-entering. They should have at least mentioned the only song dropping out that week, but for those who are wondering what the only song that dropped out that week was, it was "Something's Always Wrong" by Toad the Wet Sprocket. The really peculiar thing is, the final AT20 show on July 4, 2009 did have debuts and I believe the droppers were also mentioned. I forgot about the January 20, 1990 with no mention of the droppers. |
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Nov 8, 2021 9:59:54 GMT -5
One thing comes to mind. Did some post-1983 shows omit the mentioning of the droppers because of time-constraints? Were the mentioning of the droppers designed to be a time-filler, and some shows omitted the mentioning of the droppers due to extended stories, long-distance dedications, etc.?
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Post by matt on Nov 9, 2021 15:28:36 GMT -5
There was February 7, 1987, and also a show sometime in the fall of 1987. Thinking it might have been 10/31/1987, but I can't be sure. Maybe 11/21/1987? I believe that's correct -- there were just two debuts the week of 11/21/87, but Casey didn't announce the droppers. |
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Post by johnnywest on Dec 27, 2021 19:38:24 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure there's one in September or October 1989. I'll have to go back and listen.
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Post by Hervard on Dec 30, 2021 10:16:23 GMT -5
I have several theories of why the droppers weren't mentioned on the 12/21/1991 show. First of all, they used the wrong chart the week before (as Billboard made a few last minute changes, but failed to notify AT40), and they might have held off on mentioning the droppers to avoid confusion - depending on whether they referred to the correct chart or the one that AT40 used. Another one is the fact that the "debuts" were actually re-entries. "Forever My Lady" by Jodeci dropped off the chart the week of the chart change, and re-entered this week. Not sure if Shadoe referred to re-entries or not (in fact, did he mention that the Jodeci song was a re-entry?) Using the erroneous chart from the week before, this would be the only song that was not on the chart that week. Maybe, since there was only one dropper ("Love Of A Lifetime" by Firehouse), he didn't think there was any point in mentioning the droppers - such would be the case for the two other Shadoe Stevens shows from the 1990s listed above, both of which also contained only a single dropper. One of those was the single debut week, where he mentioned that there were only seven other AT40 charts containing just one debut, though he could have mentioned in the backsell of the song what the dropper was. As for the 1/16 chart, the only "new" song was a re-entry that had fallen off the chart due to the switch to the Top 40 Mainstream chart. There were a few single debut countdowns later in 1993 and also in 1994 that were not on the list that dth1971 posted. Perhaps by then, listeners had complained about the omissions or, more likely, the AT40 producers told Shadoe to mention the droppers no matter how few there were. These were the only times between July 1, 1989, when Shadoe resumed reading the droppers and January 16, 1993 in which there was only one debut or re-entry - except for the week of October 24, 1992, when "Am I The Same Girl" by Swing Out Sister was the week's sole debut song. Shadoe must have just mentioned that one just for the heck of it. |
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Post by Hervard on Dec 30, 2021 10:20:37 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure there's one in September or October 1989. I'll have to go back and listen. Was that the week of October 7, 1989, when "(It's Just) The Way That You Love Me" was an only debut? As I mentioned in my last post, it seems to me that Shadoe did not always mention the droppers when there was just one debut - although the week of June 27, 1992, he mentioned the number of previous shows with one debut and might have foregone reading the dropper due to time constraints (although how long could it possibly take to read off just one song?) |
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 30, 2021 15:31:43 GMT -5
I have several theories of why the droppers weren't mentioned on the 12/21/1991 show. First of all, they used the wrong chart the week before (as Billboard made a few last minute changes, but failed to notify AT40), and they might have held off on mentioning the droppers to avoid confusion - depending on whether they referred to the correct chart or the one that AT40 used. Another one is the fact that the "debuts" were actually re-entries. "Forever My Lady" by Jodeci dropped off the chart the week of the chart change, and re-entered this week. Not sure if Shadoe referred to re-entries or not (in fact, did he mention that the Jodeci song was a re-entry?) Using the erroneous chart from the week before, this would be the only song that was not on the chart that week. Maybe, since there was only one dropper ("Love Of A Lifetime" by Firehouse), he didn't think there was any point in mentioning the droppers - such would be the case for the two other Shadoe Stevens shows from the 1990s listed above, both of which also contained only a single dropper. One of those was the single debut week, where he mentioned that there were only seven other AT40 charts containing just one debut, though he could have mentioned in the backsell of the song what the dropper was. As for the 1/16 chart, the only "new" song was a re-entry that had fallen off the chart due to the switch to the Top 40 Mainstream chart. There were a few single debut countdowns later in 1993 and also in 1994 that were not on the list that dth1971 posted. Perhaps by then, listeners had complained about the omissions or, more likely, the AT40 producers told Shadoe to mention the droppers no matter how few there were. These were the only times between July 1, 1989, when Shadoe resumed reading the droppers and January 16, 1993 in which there was only one debut or re-entry - except for the week of October 24, 1992, when "Am I The Same Girl" by Swing Out Sister was the week's sole debut song. Shadoe must have just mentioned that one just for the heck of it. Shadoe did mention the droppers on the October 24, 1992 AT40 show! Besides the "Am I The Same Girl" debut there was a re-entry: "Work to Do" by Vanessa Williams. |
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