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Post by JMW on Oct 9, 2021 16:46:02 GMT -5
On the 10/8/1983 show, two people asked if there was ever a time in the Top 40 where two different songs with the same title were on the chart at the same time. Casey's answer was yes and that it happened twice: two songs titled Superstar by the Temptations and the Carpenters (1971) and Crazy Love by Poco and the Allman Brothers (1979); this happened at least two more times with two Don't Be Cruel's in 1988 and two Hold On's in 1990.
The question I have is why was it OK for the songs mentioned above to co-exist in the Top 40, but T-Rex had to change "Get It On" to "Bang a Gong (Get It On)" and Sheena Easton's "9 to 5" became "Morning Train" when they became hits in America? I suspect it had something to do with them being foreign artists while the songs mentioned in the first paragraph were all done by American artists.
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Post by Mike on Oct 9, 2021 17:25:10 GMT -5
Even among American artists, this would cut both ways...cases in point: Van Halen had "Jump" and so did The Pointer Sisters, but the Sisters' became "Jump (For My Love)". This might have also happened with Michael Jackson having "Will You Be There" and so did Heart, but Heart's becoming "Will You Be There (In the Morning)", but this one I'm not 100% certain on.
ETA: For two identical titles, also "I Can't Wait" by Stevie Nicks and then Nu Shooz, which would prompt Casey to re-visit this when it happened.
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Post by Mike on Oct 9, 2021 17:36:42 GMT -5
To try and answer this - The question I have is why was it OK for the songs mentioned above to co-exist in the Top 40, but T-Rex had to change "Get It On" to "Bang a Gong (Get It On)" and Sheena Easton's "9 to 5" became "Morning Train" when they became hits in America? I suspect it had something to do with them being foreign artists while the songs mentioned in the first paragraph were all done by American artists. In both cases, it could also be because neither T. Rex nor Sheena had had a Top 40 hit Stateside to those points. For Sheena, "Morning Train" was also her first US chart single, while for T. Rex they'd had two Hot 100 charters prior to "Bang a Gong" (the first at the same time as Chase's "Get it On"). As for why there could be two "Don't Be Cruel"s, two "Hold On"s, and for that matter two "I Can't Wait"s, I'd surmise that labels just decided they no longer needed to bother changing titles to avoid confusion by the mid-to-later 80s (possibly with the one exception in 1993 - but again, I can't be sure that Heart's was specifically changed there). |
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Post by Mike on Oct 9, 2021 17:44:46 GMT -5
There is also a flipside to two songs being considered to have the same title...
When "Good Vibrations" by Marky Mark & The Funky Bunch hit #1 on 10/5/91, Shadoe had a story on repeated song titles at #1, with "Good Vibrations" being the 8th time it had happened. But that list included "Close to You", as in Maxi Priest's "Close to You" and "(They Long to Be) Close to You" by The Carpenters, though theirs was only mentioned as "Close to You". Still, due to the subtitle, I'd say that one shouldn't have counted (and it looks egregious IMO when contrasted with another subtitle + title song being in the countdown at that time - namely, "(Everything I Do) I Do it For You").
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Post by chrislc on Oct 9, 2021 17:45:01 GMT -5
On the 10/8/1983 show, two people asked if there was ever a time in the Top 40 where two different songs with the same title were on the chart at the same time. Casey's answer was yes and that it happened twice: two songs titled Superstar by the Temptations and the Carpenters (1971) and Crazy Love by Poco and the Allman Brothers (1979); this happened at least two more times with two Don't Be Cruel's in 1988 and two Hold On's in 1990. The question I have is why was it OK for the songs mentioned above to co-exist in the Top 40, but T-Rex had to change "Get It On" to "Bang a Gong (Get It On)" and Sheena Easton's "9 to 5" became "Morning Train" when they became hits in America? I suspect it had something to do with them being foreign artists while the songs mentioned in the first paragraph were all done by American artists. I never thought any of the titles "had" to be changed. I thought it was just preference for various reasons. |
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Post by mrjukebox on Oct 9, 2021 18:01:20 GMT -5
Besides Bobby Brown's "Don't Be Cruel" there was a second hit in 1988 with that same title by Cheap Trick-That was a remake of Elvis Presley's # 1 hit from 1956.
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Post by mga707 on Oct 9, 2021 19:07:49 GMT -5
Besides Bobby Brown's "Don't Be Cruel" there was a second hit in 1988 with that same title by Cheap Trick-That was a remake of Elvis Presley's # 1 hit from 1956. Mentioned in the original post: "...two Don't Be Cruels in 1988..." |
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Post by dth1971 on Oct 9, 2021 19:11:29 GMT -5
Remember there were 2 "Forever Young" songs in the Billboard Hot 100 late 1988? One by Rod Stewart in the top 40 reaches and one by Alphaville? The Alphaville "Forever Young" never made the top 40 reaches.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Oct 11, 2021 2:44:00 GMT -5
Surprised that no one mentioned 9 to 5 by Dolly Parton and Sheena Easton's Morning Train (Nine to Five)--since Sheena's hit was simply Nine to Five when it charted in England. To avoid confusion the song was retitled when released here in the U.S. Both songs were in the Top 40 for several weeks during the early part of 1981.
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Post by kchkwong on Oct 11, 2021 3:58:35 GMT -5
Surprised that no one mentioned 9 to 5 by Dolly Parton and Sheena Easton's Morning Train (Nine to Five)--since Sheena's hit was simply Nine to Five when it charted in England. To avoid confusion the song was retitled when released here in the U.S. Both songs were in the Top 40 for several weeks during the early part of 1981. It was already mentioned by the original poster. |
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Post by mga707 on Oct 11, 2021 11:35:50 GMT -5
The question I have is why was it OK for the songs mentioned above to co-exist in the Top 40, but T-Rex had to change "Get It On" to "Bang a Gong (Get It On)" and Sheena Easton's "9 to 5" became "Morning Train" when they became hits in America? I suspect it had something to do with them being foreign artists while the songs mentioned in the first paragraph were all done by American artists. Scott English's UK hit "Brandy" was title-changed to "Mandy" for Barry Manilow to avoid confusion with Looking Glass' "Brandy". Both Looking Glass and Manilow are American. |
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Post by djjoe1960 on Oct 11, 2021 14:49:32 GMT -5
Surprised that no one mentioned 9 to 5 by Dolly Parton and Sheena Easton's Morning Train (Nine to Five)--since Sheena's hit was simply Nine to Five when it charted in England. To avoid confusion the song was retitled when released here in the U.S. Both songs were in the Top 40 for several weeks during the early part of 1981. It was already mentioned by the original poster. Oops.  |
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Post by Michael1973 on Oct 16, 2021 10:24:46 GMT -5
There were also two songs called "Love Song" in late 1989.
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Post by woolebull on Nov 2, 2021 19:19:29 GMT -5
There were also two songs called "Love Song" in late 1989. This is my favorite one. Especially since the title is not found in the lyrics of either song! |
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Post by at40nut on Nov 2, 2021 20:28:34 GMT -5
In February 1989, there was the posthumous hit by Roy Orbison called "You Got It". Meanwhile, NKOTB had a hit in the countdown called "You Got It (The Right Stuff)"
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