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Post by BrettVW on Nov 6, 2005 13:22:01 GMT -5
This weekend's LDD is from one pen-pal to another. In it, the writer specifically requests a song because it is a song that both her and her pen-pal enjoy.
However -- a different song was featured on each show this weekend. "Somewhere Only We Know" by Keane is the LDD song on AT20, and "Said I Loved You But I Lied" by Michael Bolton was heard on AT10. Now, my guess is Keane was the song requested, as it fits the dedication. However, we now stumble upon another one of those "Is that right?" scenarios, in which the song itself was indeed a crucial aspect of the LDD, and it appears that half of the listeners were not given that song.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2005 19:55:44 GMT -5
However, we now stumble upon another one of those "Is that right?" scenarios, in which the song itself was indeed a crucial aspect of the LDD, and it appears that half of the listeners were not given that song. No , it isnt. either read two different LDD's for the different shows, run the song as was written, or discontinue doing LDD's.
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Post by Michael1973 on Nov 7, 2005 11:15:50 GMT -5
This has been done before, and I it's a practice I actively dislike. It's just another example of how corporations have ruined radio. You are not going to alienate your audience by playing ONE SONG outside your format!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2005 11:43:48 GMT -5
the surprising thing is they not only make such a big deal about it, but by doing so they worry about it more than the PD's who program the stations...a lot of which are forced to carry the show. It isn't like if they did play something out of format many of the PD's could say "we arent carrying your show anymore."
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Post by BrettVW on Nov 7, 2005 13:12:10 GMT -5
Right on. My guess is those PD's who are voluntarily running the show would not drop it due to a slightly out of format LDD. And those who are being forced to run the show can't do anything about it anyway. But it's probably the latter that have 'threatened' to do who knows what if a non-format song had to be heard on their station.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2005 13:14:57 GMT -5
I can see it now...."if we have to run "You give love a Bad Name" as the LDD on our AT10 show you are forcing us to run...we will start the show regularly at 5:50am and cut out one of the extras!"
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Nov 7, 2005 13:42:09 GMT -5
I can see it now...."if we have to run "You give love a Bad Name" as the LDD on our AT10 show you are forcing us to run...we will start the show regularly at 5:50am and cut out one of the extras!" And this is different than S.O.P. how?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2005 13:59:40 GMT -5
I assume SOP means standard operating procedure. The point is, it doesn't. So why would Premiere be worried about in relation to many of the PD's dissatisfaction of a certain song aired in the show. They have to run it anyway.
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Nov 7, 2005 14:55:52 GMT -5
I assume SOP means standard operating procedure. The point is, it doesn't. So why would Premiere be worried about in relation to many of the PD's dissatisfaction of a certain song aired in the show. They have to run it anyway. Paul...that was me kidding around. What I meant was that so many stations run the show starting ridiculously early and then back the start time up even further by some random number of minutes every week anyway. I wasn't referring to the LDD situation at all there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2005 15:05:19 GMT -5
I know you were kidding, I was just reinforcing the original point that any fist waving by a lot of PD's means nothing so go ahead and run the LDD's as they need to be.
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Post by BrettVW on Nov 7, 2005 16:25:29 GMT -5
I am unaware of stations backing up the start time of the show to before the TOH, with the exception of maybe a few minutes in either direction. Although nothing surprises me at this point.
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Nov 9, 2005 13:46:51 GMT -5
I am unaware of stations backing up the start time of the show to before the TOH, with the exception of maybe a few minutes in either direction. Although nothing surprises me at this point. Used to happen all the time in NYC, Brett. When Casey was doing AT40 and Z100 *supposedly* carried it in the 6-10am timeslot on Saturdays, they actually started the show around 5:27. As has been mentioned previously on this board, I think it's a matter of "stuff the show full of lots of extra spots but still make sure it ends on time." The only way to accomplish that is to push the starting time back to whatever random time makes it work.
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Post by BrettVW on Nov 9, 2005 14:35:24 GMT -5
That sounds like the opposite of what currently happens on WIOQ/Philadelphia. The 'official' timeslot is 5-9am on Sunday, but the show usually begins anytime between 5:18-5:30...depending on the local spots. However, my guess is this is a combination of the low spot sales that early on Sunday and "Less Is More." So, basically, AT40 is a 3 and a half hour show in Philly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2005 14:46:26 GMT -5
Honestlty though, this has been a practice for years. In the early 90's I remember Future Hits starting around 6:40 (instead of 7) and Casey's Top 40 starting sometimes around 7:45am.
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Post by mstgator on Nov 11, 2005 21:32:53 GMT -5
Back to the original topic, there actually were two different letters read last weekend, hence the different songs played on AT10 and AT20.
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