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Post by Mike on Mar 10, 2021 1:23:14 GMT -5
Remember, Mainstream Top 40 radio steered away from rap into the early '90s, hence why AT40 changed its chart (to avoid metal too) and Rick Dees kept skipping over songs. Of course by the mid '90s that began to change and by the late '90s it was mainstream. In Rick's case, that may have been due to KIIS taking on an Adult lean for a time: worldradiohistory.com/Archive-RandR/1990s/1992/RR-1992-08-28.pdf#page=24On reception, the earliest I'm finding where Rick began skipping songs is 8/1/92 - and from there, skipping seems to fall into one of three categories: 1) Rap, 2) songs designated as harder Rock, or 3) occasionally, older songs on their way out of the countdown (hence why the first skipped song is "Hold on My Heart", in its last week). The skipping tends to stop when the song in question reaches the Top 10, though sometimes just getting close might be enough. (Not every week has skipped songs noted, and some weeks still don't have charts posted.) But in any event, note that the first skipped week is from the beginning of August, and the R&R column which notes KIIS's Adult turn is from the end of the month - if that kind of skipping pattern isn't a sign of bending to fit the parent station's rigid format boundaries, I'm not sure what is. To that point, I wouldn't be surprised if KIIS flipped the script, so to speak, come 1994. (Admittedly, I wouldn't know without checking - 1992 I know about due to reading through it last year.)
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Post by Hervard on Mar 10, 2021 10:18:30 GMT -5
^Rick was skipping songs as early as December, 1988. That was when Cheryl Pepsii Riley's "Thanks For My Child", a controversial song that many people thought was promoting teen pregnancy. On the countdown for December 24, they played a song that I found equally disturbing, "I Saw Daddy Kissing Santa Claus". Then, the week after the Top 40 of 1989, they played "A Little Respect" in place of "Child". IIRC, it fell off the chart the following week.
There were at least three other instances in 1991 where songs were cut. The week of 5/11, "Sadeness" by Enigma was in its final week on the chart and they played "Against All Odds" by Phil Collins in its place. Two other songs, "People Are Still Having Sex" by Latour and "Playground" by Another Bad Creation, were also skipped sometime during the summer, but I can't remember which weeks (the Latour song might have been in its second week at #39 and final week on the chart).
I vaguely remember "Hold On My Heart" being skipped, but I do remember the following week, "Baby Got Back" was edited out, because Rick said it was "down just a bit this week" when it was actually holding at #30. I seem to remember that he more often than not cut out "How About That" by Bad Company later on that year. Why that is, I'm not sure, as it wasn't a loud, heavy metal song.
What really irked me was the 1992 year-ender. He skipped over most of the songs that I would like to have heard ("I'll Get By" and "Until Your Love Comes Back Around" by RTZ are two that come to mind). I do understand that cramming 46 songs into an hour is a little tough, but the ideal songs to cut out (or at least play shorter versions of) would be songs still on the chart, since you'd hear them on the show when they returned to regular programming, if not within an hour after the show. But that's merely my opinion and nothing more.
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Post by Mike on Mar 10, 2021 13:43:06 GMT -5
^Rick was skipping songs as early as December, 1988. That was when Cheryl Pepsii Riley's "Thanks For My Child", a controversial song that many people thought was promoting teen pregnancy. On the countdown for December 24, they played a song that I found equally disturbing, "I Saw Daddy Kissing Santa Claus". Then, the week after the Top 40 of 1989, they played "A Little Respect" in place of "Child". IIRC, it fell off the chart the following week. There were at least three other instances in 1991 where songs were cut. The week of 5/11, "Sadeness" by Enigma was in its final week on the chart and they played "Against All Odds" by Phil Collins in its place. Two other songs, "People Are Still Having Sex" by Latour and "Playground" by Another Bad Creation, were also skipped sometime during the summer, but I can't remember which weeks (the Latour song might have been in its second week at #39 and final week on the chart). Of these, only "Child" on 12/24/88 and "Playground" on 6/22/91 are accounted for there. (Hence, his listings are helpful but not quite gospel, so to speak.) And in place of "Playground" that week, apparently he played "Rapper's Delight", of all songs! Any chance this was inconsistent and he didn't hit the point of skipping on a weekly basis until 1992? Though upon double-checking, I'm also seeing "Knockin' Boots" skipped on 10/20/90 and Big Audio Dynamite II's "Rush" skipped on 11/16/91. I'd think that "Tic Tac Toe" in 1990 would be another, though I have 9/1/90 (its last week) and he left it alone. I vaguely remember "Hold On My Heart" being skipped, but I do remember the following week, "Baby Got Back" was edited out, because Rick said it was "down just a bit this week" when it was actually holding at #30. I seem to remember that he more often than not cut out "How About That" by Bad Company later on that year. Why that is, I'm not sure, as it wasn't a loud, heavy metal song. These, however, are accounted for - and you know what else was frequently skipped over, outside of when it was in the Top 10? "Have You Ever Needed Someone So Bad"! Adult CHR in 1992 was not what it would be in, say, 1999, to say the least.
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Post by mga707 on Mar 10, 2021 14:51:03 GMT -5
Can't believe the amount of time and typing wasted above about a crap show with a crap host. I know I speak for many when I ask "Who the #$%& cares about Rick #$%&ing Dees?!"
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Post by dth1971 on Mar 10, 2021 15:29:40 GMT -5
If you talk about Rick Dees skipping rap songs, you should remember from 1992-1994 when NYC AT40 station WPLJ played Shadoe AT40 when Shadoe Stevens mentioned rap and heavy metal and R&B songs not suited for the station in the positions without playing them.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Mar 10, 2021 20:50:59 GMT -5
Can't believe the amount of time and typing wasted above about a crap show with a crap host. I know I speak for many when I ask "Who the #$%& cares about Rick #$%&ing Dees?!" I sometimes think that, too...although it's more with the Big 40 and all the VJ screwups that like clockwork, get reported on. It's frustrating yet hilarious at the same time to read about it.
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Post by johnnywest on Mar 13, 2021 11:48:55 GMT -5
There was singing, gibberish and rap in “Double Dutch Bus” from 1981.
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Post by Michael1973 on Mar 13, 2021 15:01:59 GMT -5
^Rick was skipping songs as early as December, 1988. That was when Cheryl Pepsii Riley's "Thanks For My Child", a controversial song that many people thought was promoting teen pregnancy. I remember this well, but it was a noticeable anomaly and not something he was regularly doing.
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Post by johnnywest on Feb 13, 2022 12:09:42 GMT -5
^Rick was skipping songs as early as December, 1988. That was when Cheryl Pepsii Riley's "Thanks For My Child", a controversial song that many people thought was promoting teen pregnancy. On the countdown for December 24, they played a song that I found equally disturbing, "I Saw Daddy Kissing Santa Claus". Then, the week after the Top 40 of 1989, they played "A Little Respect" in place of "Child". IIRC, it fell off the chart the following week. There were at least three other instances in 1991 where songs were cut. The week of 5/11, "Sadeness" by Enigma was in its final week on the chart and they played "Against All Odds" by Phil Collins in its place. Two other songs, "People Are Still Having Sex" by Latour and "Playground" by Another Bad Creation, were also skipped sometime during the summer, but I can't remember which weeks (the Latour song might have been in its second week at #39 and final week on the chart). I vaguely remember "Hold On My Heart" being skipped, but I do remember the following week, "Baby Got Back" was edited out, because Rick said it was "down just a bit this week" when it was actually holding at #30. I seem to remember that he more often than not cut out "How About That" by Bad Company later on that year. Why that is, I'm not sure, as it wasn't a loud, heavy metal song. What really irked me was the 1992 year-ender. He skipped over most of the songs that I would like to have heard ("I'll Get By" and "Until Your Love Comes Back Around" by RTZ are two that come to mind). I do understand that cramming 46 songs into an hour is a little tough, but the ideal songs to cut out (or at least play shorter versions of) would be songs still on the chart, since you'd hear them on the show when they returned to regular programming, if not within an hour after the show. But that's merely my opinion and nothing more. Many, many songs were also skipped in his 1980s decade show.
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