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Post by chrislc on Feb 18, 2021 21:27:56 GMT -5
Not in the Cash Box Top 100 Of 1973! tropicalglen.com/Archives/70s_files/1973YESP.htmlWTRY in Troy NY had a contest Christmas Week 1973 to listen for all the songs and mail in the Top 40 of the year once your list was compiled, and the earliest postmark would win a TV or stereo or whatever it was. I listened and taped and listened and taped and finally had all but #6. Who out there could have guessed #6? I think they might have played it once at about 4 AM one day. Or maybe they didn't play it at all, like they didn't play it at all during the year, probably. So has there ever been a song #6 for the year in BB and nowhere on the CB chart? |
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Post by mga707 on Feb 18, 2021 21:47:03 GMT -5
Not in the Cash Box Top 100 Of 1973! tropicalglen.com/Archives/70s_files/1973YESP.htmlWTRY in Troy NY had a contest Christmas Week 1973 to listen for all the songs and mail in the Top 40 of the year once your list was compiled, and the earliest postmark would win a TV or stereo or whatever it was. I listened and taped and listened and taped and finally had all but #6. Who out there could have guessed #6? I think they might have played it once at about 4 AM one day. Or maybe they didn't play it at all, like they didn't play it at all during the year, probably. So has there ever been a song #6 for the year in BB and nowhere on the CB chart? Are you referring to Kris Kristofferson's "Why Me"? That song was indeed #6 for the year 1973 on Billboard's Top 100. And #2 on AT40's top 40 for the year. |
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Post by chrislc on Feb 18, 2021 21:52:44 GMT -5
Not in the Cash Box Top 100 Of 1973! tropicalglen.com/Archives/70s_files/1973YESP.htmlWTRY in Troy NY had a contest Christmas Week 1973 to listen for all the songs and mail in the Top 40 of the year once your list was compiled, and the earliest postmark would win a TV or stereo or whatever it was. I listened and taped and listened and taped and finally had all but #6. Who out there could have guessed #6? I think they might have played it once at about 4 AM one day. Or maybe they didn't play it at all, like they didn't play it at all during the year, probably. So has there ever been a song #6 for the year in BB and nowhere on the CB chart? Are you referring to Kris Kristofferson's "Why Me"? That song was indeed #6 for the year 1973 on Billboard's Top 100. And #2 on AT40's top 40 for the year. Hey that's right! #6 always seemed wrong to me and that's why. Casey actually had it at #2 and WTRY probably did too. Just imagine the frustration. Having the list with #1 and #3 through #40 and trying to figure out what #2 could possibly be, with all the big hits already spoken for. Then listening to Casey on Sunday and WTH! Why Me? Seriously? Some Kind Of Wonderful paled in comparison, and that was a mistake. This was real. Yes, that's the song. I've seen #6 so many times through the years it got conflated.  |
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Post by dth1971 on Feb 19, 2021 10:32:03 GMT -5
Not in the Cash Box Top 100 Of 1973! tropicalglen.com/Archives/70s_files/1973YESP.htmlWTRY in Troy NY had a contest Christmas Week 1973 to listen for all the songs and mail in the Top 40 of the year once your list was compiled, and the earliest postmark would win a TV or stereo or whatever it was. I listened and taped and listened and taped and finally had all but #6. Who out there could have guessed #6? I think they might have played it once at about 4 AM one day. Or maybe they didn't play it at all, like they didn't play it at all during the year, probably. So has there ever been a song #6 for the year in BB and nowhere on the CB chart? Are you referring to Kris Kristofferson's "Why Me"? That song was indeed #6 for the year 1973 on Billboard's Top 100. And #2 on AT40's top 40 for the year. Ranking "Why Me" by Kris Kristofferson on a 1973 AT40 year ender at #2 was an oddity for any AT40 year end countdown - think of the #6 ranking of "Some Kind of Wonderful" by Grand Funk for the 1975 AT40 year end countdown or even when the 1990 AT40 year end countdown ranked "Unchained Melody" - both versions combined: original 1960's reissue and newly recorded 1990 version - somewhere in the top 50. |
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Post by mga707 on Feb 19, 2021 10:55:46 GMT -5
Are you referring to Kris Kristofferson's "Why Me"? That song was indeed #6 for the year 1973 on Billboard's Top 100. And #2 on AT40's top 40 for the year. Ranking "Why Me" by Kris Kristofferson on a 1973 AT40 year ender at #2 was an oddity for any AT40 year end countdown - think of the #6 ranking of "Some Kind of Wonderful" by Grand Funk for the 1975 AT40 year end countdown or even when the 1990 AT40 year end countdown ranked "Unchained Melody" - both versions combined: original 1960's reissue and newly recorded 1990 version - somewhere in the top 50. the reason for "Why Me" ranking so high on both year-end charts--Billboard's top 100 as well as AT40's top 40 (AT40 did their own ranking that year)--was valid: The song spent a long time on both the Hot 100 as well as within the 40, even though it never got any higher than #16. 38 weeks total on the 100, in an up-down-up-down trajectory. Curious how high it ranked on Billboard's year-end country chart. I know that 'Behind Closed Doors' was #1 on that chart, but Kris probably ranked high as well. (edit) Well, I thought I knew the #1 country song of '73, but I was mistaken. Forgot about ol' 'helmet-hair' Conway and his slightly creepy ode to a young would-be lover... |
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Feb 19, 2021 11:16:52 GMT -5
Ranking "Why Me" by Kris Kristofferson on a 1973 AT40 year ender at #2 was an oddity for any AT40 year end countdown - think of the #6 ranking of "Some Kind of Wonderful" by Grand Funk for the 1975 AT40 year end countdown or even when the 1990 AT40 year end countdown ranked "Unchained Melody" - both versions combined: original 1960's reissue and newly recorded 1990 version - somewhere in the top 50. the reason for "Why Me" ranking so high on both year-end charts--Billboard's top 100 as well as AT40's top 40 (AT40 did their own ranking that year)--was valid: The song spent a long time on both the Hot 100 as well as within the 40, even though it never got any higher than #16. 38 weeks total on the 100, in an up-down-up-down trajectory. Curious how high it ranked on Billboard's year-end country chart. I know that 'Behind Closed Doors' was #1 on that chart, but Kris probably ranked high as well. Looking at the 12/29/1973 BB issue (courtesy of americanradiohistory.com), "Behind Closed Doors" came in at #2, behind Conway Twitty's "You've Never Been This Far Before". "Why Me" came in at #7 for the year. |
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Post by mga707 on Feb 19, 2021 11:29:45 GMT -5
the reason for "Why Me" ranking so high on both year-end charts--Billboard's top 100 as well as AT40's top 40 (AT40 did their own ranking that year)--was valid: The song spent a long time on both the Hot 100 as well as within the 40, even though it never got any higher than #16. 38 weeks total on the 100, in an up-down-up-down trajectory. Curious how high it ranked on Billboard's year-end country chart. I know that 'Behind Closed Doors' was #1 on that chart, but Kris probably ranked high as well. Looking at the 12/29/1973 BB issue (courtesy of americanradiohistory.com), "Behind Closed Doors" came in at #2, behind Conway Twitty's "You've Never Been This Far Before". "Why Me" came in at #7 for the year. Thanks for that, edited my post. |
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Post by at40petebattistini on Feb 19, 2021 12:48:03 GMT -5
As Chris alluded, although Kris Kristofferson's "Why Me" ranked high on Billboard's year-end singles chart, it failed to appear on Cash Box magazine's Top 100 of 1973.
In contrast, on Cash Box, "Why Me" was the number one Country Single of 1973.
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Post by adam31 on Feb 19, 2021 14:35:08 GMT -5
Are you referring to Kris Kristofferson's "Why Me"? That song was indeed #6 for the year 1973 on Billboard's Top 100. And #2 on AT40's top 40 for the year. Ranking "Why Me" by Kris Kristofferson on a 1973 AT40 year ender at #2 was an oddity for any AT40 year end countdown - think of the #6 ranking of "Some Kind of Wonderful" by Grand Funk for the 1975 AT40 year end countdown or even when the 1990 AT40 year end countdown ranked "Unchained Melody" - both versions combined: original 1960's reissue and newly recorded 1990 version - somewhere in the top 50. I thought you going to bring up "Look Away" by Chicago as #1 of 1989. |
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Post by Hervard on Feb 19, 2021 15:28:51 GMT -5
Are you referring to Kris Kristofferson's "Why Me"? That song was indeed #6 for the year 1973 on Billboard's Top 100. And #2 on AT40's top 40 for the year. Ranking "Why Me" by Kris Kristofferson on a 1973 AT40 year ender at #2 was an oddity for any AT40 year end countdown - think of the #6 ranking of "Some Kind of Wonderful" by Grand Funk for the 1975 AT40 year end countdown or even when the 1990 AT40 year end countdown ranked "Unchained Melody" - both versions combined: original 1960's reissue and newly recorded 1990 version - somewhere in the top 50. #39 - about where it would have ranked had Verve released the song as a cassette single and/or a CD single (in which case, there wouldn't have been any need for the 1990 re-recording). |
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Post by Mike on Feb 19, 2021 15:29:16 GMT -5
Turns out, upon closer examination of Kris's Cash Box run, there may be a simple explanation for "Why Me" failing to rank in their year-end chart.
It should perhaps not be so surprising that Kris fared much better on Billboard than he did on Cash Box, but the extent of that goes thusly: He first hit the countdown in July, then fell out, then returned the last week of August, remaining through the rest of the year (in terms of weekly countdowns - he fell out of the Top 40 for the final time on December 22, but due to the year-end Top 100, that wouldn't be reflected until the new year). In contrast, Kris never hit Cash Box's Top 40 at all until the week of November 10. That same week would have been his 14th week on AT40.
It's true that he did also spend an enormous amount of time on their chart as well, but is it possible that since, comparatively speaking, his weekly rankings there would have been much lower than they were on Billboard...that it still wasn't enough to rank on their year-end chart? As it stands, he'd spend just 3 weeks in their Top 40, reaching #32.
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Post by dth1971 on Feb 20, 2021 7:26:09 GMT -5
Turns out, upon closer examination of Kris's Cash Box run, there may be a simple explanation for "Why Me" failing to rank in their year-end chart. It should perhaps not be so surprising that Kris fared much better on Billboard than he did on Cash Box, but the extent of that goes thusly: He first hit the countdown in July, then fell out, then returned the last week of August, remaining through the rest of the year (in terms of weekly countdowns - he fell out of the Top 40 for the final time on December 22, but due to the year-end Top 100, that wouldn't be reflected until the new year). In contrast, Kris never hit Cash Box's Top 40 at all until the week of November 10. That same week would have been his 14th week on AT40. It's true that he did also spend an enormous amount of time on their chart as well, but is it possible that since, comparatively speaking, his weekly rankings there would have been much lower than they were on Billboard...that it still wasn't enough to rank on their year-end chart? As it stands, he'd spend just 3 weeks in their Top 40, reaching #32. How did Kris K.'s "Why Me" fare on the Record World chart? And since R&R's charts were launched in Fall 1973 it was too late to rank the "Why Me" song on R&R's charts. |
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Post by djjoe1960 on Feb 20, 2021 9:44:42 GMT -5
Turns out, upon closer examination of Kris's Cash Box run, there may be a simple explanation for "Why Me" failing to rank in their year-end chart. It should perhaps not be so surprising that Kris fared much better on Billboard than he did on Cash Box, but the extent of that goes thusly: He first hit the countdown in July, then fell out, then returned the last week of August, remaining through the rest of the year (in terms of weekly countdowns - he fell out of the Top 40 for the final time on December 22, but due to the year-end Top 100, that wouldn't be reflected until the new year). In contrast, Kris never hit Cash Box's Top 40 at all until the week of November 10. That same week would have been his 14th week on AT40. It's true that he did also spend an enormous amount of time on their chart as well, but is it possible that since, comparatively speaking, his weekly rankings there would have been much lower than they were on Billboard...that it still wasn't enough to rank on their year-end chart? As it stands, he'd spend just 3 weeks in their Top 40, reaching #32. How did Kris K.'s "Why Me" fare on the Record World chart? And since R&R's charts were launched in Fall 1973 it was too late to rank the "Why Me" song on R&R's charts. Why Me reached #19 on the Record World pop chart , charting for 28 weeks. The song did reach #1 on the country chart in all three trades (BB/CB/RW) in July of 1973 and reportedly sold one million copies. My feeling is that the song lingered on the charts for so long because it became popular in different parts of the country at different times. One reason the song probably did not show up on the Cash Box 1973 year end chart is in that during the 1960's CB only tracked the Top 50 chart positions for their year end surveys; perhaps they still configured the '73 chart that way--hard to know for sure as no 'official' explanation is given. |
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Post by 1finemrg on Feb 20, 2021 20:34:45 GMT -5
Actually saw Kris Kristofferson in concert at the Park West in Chicago in the mid-80s. Performed all his hits and the wonderful songs that were hits for others.
His band featured Billy Swan on lead guitar, so of course he reprised "I Can Help".
Don McLean opened and was very entertaining. Broke a guitar string in the middle of a song. Re-strung and tuned it while talking to the audience, then "took it from the top".
Very memorable show.
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Post by Rodney on Feb 20, 2021 21:53:47 GMT -5
I saw Kris on May 1st, 2018. He was 81 at that time. Sang all of his hits. Had two of Merle Haggard's sons playing in his band... Ben and Noel. They did a few of their dad's songs. It was a good night.
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