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Post by jgve1952 on Sept 1, 2020 15:55:21 GMT -5
Friendly challenge anyone? Is "Trollz" by 6IX9INE and Nicki Minaj the fastest former Number 1 to drop off the Hot 100. It debuted at #1 on 7-4-20, dropped to 34, 54, 83, then off the chart. I know many people don't consider this era of digital downloads as comparable to former measures of airplay and sales, but it just seemed so strange to me that for whatever reason that much interest in a song that was #1 would lose its popularity so fast. I apologize if this is in the wrong thread, so please don't judge me too harshly  |
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Post by mkarns on Sept 1, 2020 20:22:08 GMT -5
Friendly challenge anyone? Is "Trollz" by 6IX9INE and Nicki Minaj the fastest former Number 1 to drop off the Hot 100. It debuted at #1 on 7-4-20, dropped to 34, 54, 83, then off the chart. I know many people don't consider this era of digital downloads as comparable to former measures of airplay and sales, but it just seemed so strange to me that for whatever reason that much interest in a song that was #1 would lose its popularity so fast. I apologize if this is in the wrong thread, so please don't judge me too harshly In January Mariah Carey's "All I Want For Christmas Is You" fell right off the chart from #1, though that's of course a special case, not least because it'll be back in a couple of months. I can't see any #1 song falling off after less than four weeks, barring special cases like holiday songs, novelties, or things tied to a very specific moment or event that fade quickly. "Trollz" might fall in the latter category, or maybe it was just a record with huge initial hype that didn't hold up. |
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Post by Mike on Sept 1, 2020 21:31:25 GMT -5
Prior to "Trollz", was there any non-Christmas song that went off faster than "Dirty Diana"? 1-5-15-30-51-77-off. (Just 6 weeks to go from #1 to off the Hot 100.)
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Post by doofus67 on Sept 1, 2020 23:17:07 GMT -5
Prior to "Trollz", was there any non-Christmas song that went off faster than "Dirty Diana"? 1-5-15-30-51-77-off. (Just 6 weeks to go from #1 to off the Hot 100.) I went through the whole dirty, rotten Bogus Bill Wardlow era, 8/18/73 to 4/23/83, from the end of "early deletion" to the end of "star/superstar," and found these: "I Shot the Sheriff": 1-5-13-23-44-off (5 wks) "Can't Get Enough of Your Love, Babe": 1-12-22-42-100-off (5 wks) "Rock Me Gently": 1-12-32-48-off (4 wks) "Nothing from Nothing": 1-15-39-72-off (4 wks) "Then Came You": 1-15-39-79-off (4 wks) "Laughter in the Rain": 1-8-16-33-61-off (5 wks) "Black Water": 1-4-18-41-50-off (5 wks) "He Don't Love You (Like I Love You)": 1-7-16-43-54-off (5 wks) "Before the Next Teardrop Falls": 1-7-19-44-off (4 wks) "The Hustle": 1-5-11-34-53-off (5 wks) "Saturday Night": 1-5-17-25-51-off (5 wks) "Theme from Mahogany": 1-11-14-37-52-off (5 wks) "Love Rollercoaster": 1-6-7-33-57-off (5 wks) "New Kid in Town": 1-2-14-27-51-off (5 wks) "Dancing Queen": 1-6-18-27-45-off (5 wks) |
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Sept 2, 2020 0:02:16 GMT -5
Prior to "Trollz", was there any non-Christmas song that went off faster than "Dirty Diana"? 1-5-15-30-51-77-off. (Just 6 weeks to go from #1 to off the Hot 100.) "Nothing from Nothing": 1-15-39-72-off (4 wks) "Then Came You": 1-15-39-79-off (4 wks) The two song titles in that order could be answers in another form to this question. 😂 Good ol' 1974. |
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Post by djjoe1960 on Sept 2, 2020 7:18:15 GMT -5
The fastest drop off the Cash Box chart, during the 1960's, belongs to a #1 hit from 1965--I'm Henry the VIII by Herman's Hermits. The song reached #1 on August 7, 1965 and then dropped to #4, then #16, down to 26 and finally to #37 (4 weeks) before exiting the chart.
A Christmas favorite (?) also exited the Cash Box chart, in just 4 weeks, in 1959 after dropping from the #1 spot. The Chipmunk Song by the Chipmunks spent 4 weeks at the top and then dropped to #2, #7, #9 and finally to #19 in it's final week on the survey.
The quickest #1 single drop off the Cash Box chart during the 1970's belongs to a spoken word recording, Americans by CKLW News Director Byron MacGregor. The record reached #1 the week ending February 16, 1974. The following week the record was #6, then it exited the Top 40 dropping to #44 and then left the chart completely the next week (spending just 2 weeks on the Top 100 after reaching #1).
Two other #1 hits spent just three weeks on the chart after exiting the #1 position. For the week ending November 14, 1970 at #1 was Indiana Wants Me by R. Dean Taylor, then the song went to #5, #22 and #55--before leaving the chart. In 1971, The Jackson 5 reached #1 with Never Can Say Goodbye on May 29, 1971. The single then dropped to #5, #15 and then #25 before it exited the chart.
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Post by Mike on Sept 2, 2020 8:33:13 GMT -5
Prior to "Trollz", was there any non-Christmas song that went off faster than "Dirty Diana"? 1-5-15-30-51-77-off. (Just 6 weeks to go from #1 to off the Hot 100.) I went through the whole dirty, rotten Bogus Bill Wardlow era, 8/18/73 to 4/23/83, from the end of "early deletion" to the end of "star/superstar," and found these: "I Shot the Sheriff": 1-5-13-23-44-off (5 wks) "Can't Get Enough of Your Love, Babe": 1-12-22-42-100-off (5 wks) "Rock Me Gently": 1-12-32-48-off (4 wks) "Nothing from Nothing": 1-15-39-72-off (4 wks) "Then Came You": 1-15-39-79-off (4 wks) "Laughter in the Rain": 1-8-16-33-61-off (5 wks) "Black Water": 1-4-18-41-50-off (5 wks) "He Don't Love You (Like I Love You)": 1-7-16-43-54-off (5 wks) "Before the Next Teardrop Falls": 1-7-19-44-off (4 wks) "The Hustle": 1-5-11-34-53-off (5 wks) "Saturday Night": 1-5-17-25-51-off (5 wks) "Theme from Mahogany": 1-11-14-37-52-off (5 wks) "Love Rollercoaster": 1-6-7-33-57-off (5 wks) "New Kid in Town": 1-2-14-27-51-off (5 wks) "Dancing Queen": 1-6-18-27-45-off (5 wks)  Gadzooks! So "Trollz" in fact ties "Rock Me Gently", "Nothing From Nothing", "Then Came You", and "Before the Next Teardrop Falls". Unless there's something else (again, non-Christmas) that has that mark beat... |
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Post by jgve1952 on Sept 2, 2020 10:29:24 GMT -5
I do believe "Trollz" would win as the former #1 that spent the fewest weeks on the Hot 100, that being 4 weeks. I will have to "You Tube" the song to see what made it debut at #1, but then lose so much popularity.
Thanks for all the responses. It's much better than one I did two years ago when I asked if 1-12-85 was a record breaking chart when only 2 songs debuted in the Hot 100. This was not a frozen chart, but had any chart in BB's history (excluding frozen charts at the end of the year) had less than 2 debuts in the Hot 100? On that thread, I received no responses.
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Post by jgve1952 on Sept 2, 2020 16:35:49 GMT -5
I checked out "Trollz" on You Tube. The video has been on there since 6-15-20 and has 37 Million views and 37,000 comments. This is even more difficult to understand how a song debuts at #1 and drops to 38 the following week with that kind of popularity. Even in the digital age, is that the biggest drop from #1?
I guess it's the digital age which is hard for me to understand. I grew up with an allowance that I used for buying 45's!
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Post by laura on Sept 2, 2020 16:57:54 GMT -5
Maybe streaming had a hand in this? I'm thinking when the song was released, a lot of people, especially on Twitter because of the whole "stan" thing happening these days, streamed it and that helped propel it to #1, and then they just stopped, causing the big drops?
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Post by lasvegaskid on Sept 9, 2020 10:07:18 GMT -5
Tay Swift: Caradigan Debut 1-8-24-33-36-next week? Tay drops to #45 completing a five week top 40 stay for a 'number 1' song...the charts in 2020 are a complete joke. |
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Post by adam31 on Sept 11, 2020 14:08:35 GMT -5
Maybe streaming had a hand in this? I'm thinking when the song was released, a lot of people, especially on Twitter because of the whole "stan" thing happening these days, streamed it and that helped propel it to #1, and then they just stopped, causing the big drops? My opinion from the beginning when Billboard added streaming is that it is too highly weighted in the Hot 100 tabulations. Opinion becomes proof after seeing what has happened in 2020. |
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Post by jgve1952 on Sept 11, 2020 17:12:54 GMT -5
Adam, you are so right--it is outrageous how the charts are configured.
On 8-8-20, Taylor Swift had the highest eleven debuts on the Hot 100 at positions: 1,4, 6, 13, 16, 23, 26,35,37,39,42, and 44.
The following week 1 dropped to 8, 4 dropped to 23, 6 dropped to 36, 13 dropped to 66, 23 dropped to 73, 26 dropped to 93 YIKES, and 35 dropped to 98. The last 4 songs 37, 39, 42, and 44 all dropped off the Hot 100 after only one week.
It is not that all the songs plunge after a short period of time--"Circles" by Post Malone is in the Top 20 with 51 weeks in the Hot 100. Go figure!
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Post by lasvegaskid on Dec 28, 2020 20:41:37 GMT -5
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Post by jimjterrell4210 on Aug 13, 2023 18:00:16 GMT -5
Last April, we just had the first Billboard Hot 100 number-one single ever to spend only a single week in the Top-40 in the history of the chart. "Like Crazy", by Jimin. After debuting on the top spot on April 8, 2023, "Like Crazy" dropped from the number-one spot to #45 on the week of April 15. Ultimately, "Like Crazy"'s overall stay on the Hot 100 would only be for five weeks (1 - 45 - 52 - 85 - 97 - off).
What if something like this happened during the Hot 100's classic era? A number-one single being in the Top 40 for only a single week... SMH.
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Gadzooks!