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Post by dth1971 on Mar 14, 2020 17:41:11 GMT -5
...what are the highest charting non #1 songs that didn't make the top 40 on Billboard that charted on Billboard's rival chart - R&R (1970's, 1980's, 1990's), Cash Box (1980's, 1990's), and Gavin Report (1980's, 1990's). Did Record World cease before the 1970's ended?
For the record, John Lennon's song "Mother" was the highest to not make the Billboard top 40 but made #16 on Record World and #19 on Cashbox in the 1970's.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Mar 14, 2020 21:23:35 GMT -5
In early 1992, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana peaked at #9 on R&R (Casey's Top 40/Rick Dees Weekly Top 40), but never played on AT40.
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Post by freakyflybry on Mar 14, 2020 22:35:58 GMT -5
In early 1992, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana peaked at #9 on R&R (Casey's Top 40/Rick Dees Weekly Top 40), but never played on AT40. Similarly, Madonna peaked at #6 on R&R with "Into The Groove" due to strong airplay (and therefore, played on Rick Dees), but due to lack of single release, didn't make AT40.
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Post by freakyflybry on Mar 14, 2020 22:39:12 GMT -5
And the biggest example of all is from Cashbox - in 1992, Wayne Newton got #1 there with "The Letter", but failed to chart anywhere else.
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Post by doofus67 on Mar 15, 2020 0:14:10 GMT -5
To answer your question, the final issue of Record World was published April 10, 1982.
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Post by doofus67 on Mar 15, 2020 0:15:46 GMT -5
And the biggest example of all is from Cashbox - in 1992, Wayne Newton got #1 there with "The Letter", but failed to chart anywhere else. He's referring to non #1's...I think. Or is it non top 40s? Or both? I'm as confused as anyone by this thread.
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Post by dth1971 on Mar 15, 2020 7:24:13 GMT -5
And the biggest example of all is from Cashbox - in 1992, Wayne Newton got #1 there with "The Letter", but failed to chart anywhere else. He's referring to non #1's...I think. Or is it non top 40s? Or both? I'm as confused as anyone by this thread. Non #1 songs and non top 40 songs, that is. I know in Spring 1991 State of the World by Janet Jackson made it to #4 on R&R (used for Casey's Top 40/Rick Dees Weekly Top 40) and also #4 on Gavin Report (used for Dave Sholin's Insider) but never made Billboard's Hot 100 chart since it was not released as a single.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Mar 15, 2020 9:47:53 GMT -5
Talk about weird chart positions--in 1967, Marvin Gaye & Kim Weston reached #14 with the song It Takes Two in Billboard and #19 in Record World--that same single only made it to # 43 in Cash Box. Huh?
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Post by johnnywest on Jun 8, 2022 16:11:27 GMT -5
"Pinball Wizard" by Elton John hit #9 in R&R in 1975 but I don't think it was ever a Billboard Hot 100 hit for Elton.
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Post by mga707 on Jun 8, 2022 17:06:11 GMT -5
"Pinball Wizard" by Elton John hit #9 in R&R in 1975 but I don't think it was ever a Billboard Hot 100 hit for Elton. It wasn't, because it wasn't released as a single. 'Billboard' rules. Same for "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees in '78. It also hit R&R's chart.
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Post by mct1 on Jun 10, 2022 22:25:18 GMT -5
A couple more in the same boat - Top 10 in R&R due to airplay, but didn't chart in Billboard because they weren't commercially released as singles - are "All My Love" by Led Zeppelin and "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming" by Jermaine Jackson.
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Post by mct1 on Jun 10, 2022 22:39:38 GMT -5
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Post by dth1971 on Jun 11, 2022 6:14:07 GMT -5
If you listened to Dave Sholin's Insider in 1990 until 1991 when it switched from a Top 40 to a Top 30, you'd hear about a handful of songs that didn't make top 40 reaches on Billboard's Hot 100 nor R&R CHR top 40 but made the Top 40 of the Gavin Report CHR chart used for the show - mostly in the #31-#40 range.
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Post by chrislc on Jun 11, 2022 19:38:44 GMT -5
"Pinball Wizard" by Elton John hit #9 in R&R in 1975 but I don't think it was ever a Billboard Hot 100 hit for Elton. It wasn't, because it wasn't released as a single. 'Billboard' rules. Same for "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees in '78. It also hit R&R's chart. So much for Hugh Gibb's influence on Billboard. I guess there was a limit.
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Post by mga707 on Jun 11, 2022 21:14:08 GMT -5
It wasn't, because it wasn't released as a single. 'Billboard' rules. Same for "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees in '78. It also hit R&R's chart. So much for Hugh Gibb's influence on Billboard. I guess there was a limit. Not sure what you mean. "More Than a Woman" wasn't eligible to chart on the 'Hot 100' since it wasn't released as a commercial single. The story is that RSO wanted to release it but the Brothers Gibb said 'no'.
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