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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Oct 30, 2021 11:35:03 GMT -5
I remember many years ago, I had Cash Box charts bookmarked. Then the sites kept changing, so I stopped. That was also long before I discovered the World Radio History site. Thanks for these; will add them to my bookmarks. I remember many years ago when they were very basic typewritten, now they're very well formatted.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Oct 30, 2021 18:35:49 GMT -5
Very interesting. Although the Cash Box archives site is superior to the old issues of CBM, since it has a listing of the weeks a song was on the chart--something Cash Box didn't feature in its magazine until the mid 1970's.
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Post by jgve1952 on Nov 21, 2021 15:10:50 GMT -5
Really enjoying the 1965 Countdown from 11-27-65. Boo boo in the Cashbox for that week--it incorrectly shows "You Didn't Have To Be So Nice" as You Don't Have to Be So Nice." Here is an interesting fact: The McCoys drop out of the Top 40 with "Hang on Sloopy" but enter with "Fever." "Hang on Sloopy" by the McCoys as mentioned drops out of the Top 40 but the Ramsey Lewis Trio debut with their version "Hang on Sloopy."
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Post by jgve1952 on Dec 28, 2021 10:46:42 GMT -5
I recently played the Top 100 of 1968, and perplexed why Spooky didn't make the Top 100 of that year. Here are its weekly chart positions: 70, 43, 22, 9, 4, 4, 3, 2, 3, 6, 24, 28 and 35.
In comparison Hurdy Gurdy Man was #49 and had the following chart positions: 80, 62, 44, 21, 15, 9, 4, 4, 3, 8, 9 and 23.
Assuming Cashbox used the "inverse" point system, i.e. #1 gets 100 points, #2 gets 99 points, #3 gets 98 points, etc., here were my calculations: Spooky had 965 points (from January 1 to departure), and Hurdy Gurdy Man had 930 points (all during 1968 survey period).
My question: How was this overlooked?
This isn't the first discrepancy we have found with Cashbox yearend charts.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Dec 28, 2021 12:19:40 GMT -5
I recently played the Top 100 of 1968, and perplexed why Spooky didn't make the Top 100 of that year. Here are its weekly chart positions: 70, 43, 22, 9, 4, 4, 3, 2, 3, 6, 24, 28 and 35. In comparison Hurdy Gurdy Man was #49 and had the following chart positions: 80, 62, 44, 21, 15, 9, 4, 4, 3, 8, 9 and 23. Assuming Cashbox used the "inverse" point system, i.e. #1 gets 100 points, #2 gets 99 points, #3 gets 98 points, etc., here were my calculations: Spooky had 965 points (from January 1 to departure), and Hurdy Gurdy Man had 930 points (all during 1968 survey period). My question: How was this overlooked? This isn't the first discrepancy we have found with Cashbox yearend charts. Good question, Jeff. Cash Box had an unusual point system-- worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Cash-Box/60s/1968/CB-1968-12-28.pdfI think they overlooked Spooky by the Classics IV. One thing that is interesting about 1968, is that Billboard didn't publish their year end pop single survey until the second issue of 1969.
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Post by jgve1952 on Mar 13, 2022 8:31:22 GMT -5
Joe, you mentioned that "Never Loved A Man" was Aretha Franklin's second song to reach the Top 40 on the 3-18-67 Countdown. What was her first, as I always thought this was her first? Loved the countdown! Jeff
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Post by doofus67 on Mar 13, 2022 10:16:58 GMT -5
Aretha's version of "Rock-a-Bye Your Baby with a Dixie Melody," on Columbia, went to #24 in 1961.
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Post by chrislc on Mar 13, 2022 19:50:00 GMT -5
Aretha's version of "Rock-a-Bye Your Baby with a Dixie Melody," on Columbia, went to #24 in 1961. Someone needs to do a You Don't Bring Me Flowers type mashup with the Jerry Lewis version. LOL I'm picturing the two of them live on the Grammys.
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Post by djjoe1960 on May 22, 2022 18:24:21 GMT -5
Here is a countdown from Cash Box magazine for the week ending May 29, 1971--which includes a couple of songs that didn't make the Top 40 in Billboard, including a special song at #1. Enjoy the show. archive.org/details/1971052901
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Post by jgve1952 on May 23, 2022 7:49:19 GMT -5
Thanks and I will. Have a happy and safe Memorial Day, and thanks for all you do.
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Post by chrislc on May 23, 2022 13:51:36 GMT -5
Here is a countdown from Cash Box magazine for the week ending May 29, 1971--which includes a couple of songs that didn't make the Top 40 in Billboard, including a special song at #1. Enjoy the show. archive.org/details/1971052901Joe I check Archive Org pretty much every day and got a nice surprise this morning! And some very cool facts about Alan O'Day, Van McCoy and Roy Orbison, too. As Carson used to say, "I did not KNOW that!"
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Post by jgve1952 on May 23, 2022 19:49:42 GMT -5
I guess that makes Donny Osmond the "King of Remakes." I did not know as Chris stated that "Sweet and Innocent" was a remake. I know every song (correct me if I am wrong) Donny made from "Go Away Little Girl" was a remake, and thought "Sweet and Innocent" was original. Joe, your vast knowledge is always astounding. The research you do for Cashbox and Rewind Countdowns is unsurpassed, and I listen to each and every countdown on its anniversary week. Tomorrow I am listening to 5-30-64. Jeff
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Post by chrislc on Jun 22, 2022 12:07:31 GMT -5
Just listening to 07/25/1964. Marvin Gaye begins Try It Baby with 'now you're moving on up" then a couple of songs later Sam Cooke sings Good Times.
So should I be standing by for the theme from Maude or someone singing about the way Glenn Miller played? The Little River Band wasn't around in 1964, was it?
Speaking of TV themes, a little later in the countdown, immediately after the first time Johnny Rivers sings "Tennessee" in Memphis, it sounds like Fred Gwynne is in the audience, doing his Herman Munster laugh. He would have filmed a bunch of episodes by then, with the show set to debut in less than two months. I wonder if Al Lewis was sitting at the same table.
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Post by chrislc on Aug 17, 2022 15:25:19 GMT -5
Was I Had A Dream by Paul Revere and the Raiders the first rap Top 40 hit? The last 30 seconds anyway. 12 years before Rapper's Delight. I can't think of a hit prior to that with that rhyming thing.
Speaking of those guys, Steppin' Out has them saying "hey...hey...hey hey hey" 13 years before Macho Man.
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Post by chrislc on Aug 19, 2022 11:36:13 GMT -5
Was I Had A Dream by Paul Revere and the Raiders the first rap Top 40 hit? The last 30 seconds anyway. 12 years before Rapper's Delight. I can't think of a hit prior to that with that rhyming thing. Speaking of those guys, Steppin' Out has them saying "hey...hey...hey hey hey" 13 years before Macho Man. Or maybe Big Bad John was the first Top 40 Rap Hit. And I'm probably forgetting some too. But Mark Lindsay had more of that rap attitude than Jimmy Dean had, IMO.
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