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Post by palmer7 on Oct 30, 2015 23:33:10 GMT -5
Do you think Ryan has fully grown into his role as host of AT40 after 11 years? I mean, he's been doing this for at least a decade.
I don't listen to the show because it's on a Sunday while I'm at church.
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Post by mkarns on Oct 31, 2015 8:26:42 GMT -5
He's doing fine, though I'd like it better if all the stories and info were recorded specifically for AT40. It includes a lot of interviews and such that are recycled from his weekday "On Air" broadcasts.
There are some aspects of the current format I don't like, such as the practice (only about a year old) of going right into #40 after the opening by an anonymous announcer, with Ryan not coming in until after it, but that's not Seacrest's fault. One positive development over the last five years or so is more music and less talk, resulting in a LOT of extras (as many as twelve a week, and most often at least ten), many of which have specific designations ("Breakouts" and "On the Verge" songs about to chart"; "Two For Ones" by the same artist; and listener requests that basically serve as modern Long Distance Dedications minus a reading of an actual letter.)
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Post by palmer7 on Oct 31, 2015 11:12:43 GMT -5
Based on what I'm reading, I like the extras too. The only question is, how on earth can they fit all those extras in there with only four hours? I'm guessing the lack of long stories about the artists helps.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 12:57:34 GMT -5
Less talking from the host, (thankfully) no long distance dedication requests during the show which means that opens up 3 slots in the show right there, and possibly songs are in a phase where they (or their radio edit version) are shorter than they were just a few years earlier.
I submit that if you have any shows in your collection with long distance dedications/requests and dedications in them, clock their length. I was surprised to see between the letter and song that was easily 7-8 minutes of wasted time on the show. Sometimes more. It makes sense, just never thought about it until I was forwarding through one and saw how much time I was skipping.
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Post by BrettVW on Oct 31, 2015 19:54:29 GMT -5
I think the show sounds great and Ryan is doing a fine job. The show is exactly what it needs to be and does it well.
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Post by 80sat40fan on Nov 1, 2015 12:31:19 GMT -5
I just checked the AT40 website which has a list of stations by state and country. It looks like AT40 is featured on about 350 U.S. radio stations and on 95 or so stations worldwide for a total of just under 450 stations. Take Canada out of the mix and the international station count drops to about 40.
Someone correct me if I am wrong but I think Casey's AT40 station count was close to 1100 at its peak in the early '80s? I think the station count was down to the upper 800s when Casey departed AT40 on 1988.
I don't listen to much Top 40 music these days so I rarely listen to Ryan. The last time I did, I listened to the Top 10, and it sounded like Ryan was phoning it in. There were a couple of times he read things that I would have said, "Cut, let's do that over." Casey read stories with a lot of passion and excitement... I didn't sense that with Ryan, but maybe Ryan's style meshes with today's listeners more so than Casey.
If AT40 is playing 10 - 12 extras per show now... has there been any thought of going back to a 3-hour show? I wonder how many stations today won't play a 4-hour show but would consider a 3-hour show. I think listeners 30 and 40 years ago had the attention span to listen to a 4-hour show... today, not so much.
Finally, no mention of Armed Forces Radio on the AT40 website. I always liked it during station mentions when Casey would say, "...and on Armed Forces Radio around the globe." I hope our troops can still hear AT40 when they can.
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Post by mkarns on Nov 1, 2015 13:03:12 GMT -5
I just checked the AT40 website which has a list of stations by state and country. It looks like AT40 is featured on about 350 U.S. radio stations and on 95 or so stations worldwide for a total of just under 450 stations. Take Canada out of the mix and the international station count drops to about 40. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I think Casey's AT40 station count was close to 1100 at its peak in the early '80s? I think the station count was down to the upper 800s when Casey departed AT40 on 1988. According to Rob Durkee's book, AT40's station count peaked around 520 in the early 1980s. That may not be an exact or all time record number, but it almost certainly never got anywhere near 800 or 1100. I counted out the stations listed on the AT40 website (which may not be entirely up to date) and the current count, for both CHR and AC versions, is 344 in the US (give or take a couple due to potential miscounting on my part), and 95 internationally, of which 54 are in Canada, for a grand total of 439. Given radio consolidation (note Clear Channel dominance and iHeart affiliation) and restrictions on how many stations may broadcast the show in a particular market, that's still a very strong number for current terrestrial radio. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 14:03:49 GMT -5
How many markets are like mine though and air both versions?
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Post by palmer7 on Nov 1, 2015 14:15:16 GMT -5
If AT40 is playing 10 - 12 extras per show now... has there been any thought of going back to a 3-hour show? I wonder how many stations today won't play a 4-hour show but would consider a 3-hour show. I think listeners 30 and 40 years ago had the attention span to listen to a 4-hour show... today, not so much. We haven't had a 3-hour AT40 since 1978. I don't see how it would work, unless songs (or radio edits) are getting shorter and shorter. |
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Post by palmer7 on Nov 1, 2015 20:40:49 GMT -5
Let me put it to you this way. Listen to any episode of Top 40 Satellite Survey. Take the one I just posted. They cut out of "Every Time You Go Away" right after the second chorus, then went into #37. Do you really want AT40 to become that? |
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Post by BrettVW on Nov 1, 2015 21:27:13 GMT -5
The big thing to remember is market exclusivity was so different then, and there were more lower power small market stations. In my area, AT40 is heard in three large and one small market - Orlando, Tampa, and Daytona Beach
In the 70s and 80s, those markets all had an affiliate, as did small markets like Lakeland and Winter Haven. Orlando and Tampa clearly cover those markets, but back then they were separate when it came to market exclusivity and AT40 often aired on all of them. Lakeland today likely could not clear AT40 because of Orlando and Tampa
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2015 12:35:20 GMT -5
Melbourne also airs it.
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Post by DJ Particle on Mar 17, 2016 14:32:19 GMT -5
From what I've heard, I think Seacrest is doing just fine, and the integration with his weekday show works. He's basically making AT40 his now, and I don't see it as a bad thing. I don't understand why the hate for Seacrest coming from some on this board. He grew up idolizing Casey Kasem. He was one of us back in the day, religiously listening to AT40, writing down the charts, and he did whatever he could to make sure he could follow in his idol's footsteps. After establishing himself as a DJ, and hosting Idol for a couple years, it got to the point where Casey Kasem himself named Seacrest his successor. Seacrest was basically floored in addition to honored. People wonder if Ryan Seacrest is either the next Dick Clark or the next Casey Kasem. Basically, he's both, and not just because he hosts both AT40 and Rockin' New Year. He has become the hardest-working DJ in the business. Millennials and the generation after will likely revere Seacrest in the same way we revere Clark and Kasem. So stop the hate, folks! Ryan Seacrest is keeping our favorite show alive!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 17:10:15 GMT -5
Today's DJs, sportscasters, newscasters, etc are all very good at what they do for the most part. Very few of them suck. No one is great. They are all competent and professional. You neither get excited when they are coming on the air or miss them when they are gone. There are still some great talents on like sports talk radio or political talk but by and large most everyone else is interchangeable in their field. Seacrest while not great is the best of this era for what he does. That's not a knock on him or any sort of jab. It's just the way it is in 2016. I like him. I like the show when I hear it.
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Post by mkarns on Mar 17, 2016 17:57:24 GMT -5
From what I've heard, I think Seacrest is doing just fine, and the integration with his weekday show works. He's basically making AT40 his now, and I don't see it as a bad thing. I don't understand why the hate for Seacrest coming from some on this board. He grew up idolizing Casey Kasem. He was one of us back in the day, religiously listening to AT40, writing down the charts, and he did whatever he could to make sure he could follow in his idol's footsteps. After establishing himself as a DJ, and hosting Idol for a couple years, it got to the point where Casey Kasem himself named Seacrest his successor. Seacrest was basically floored in addition to honored. People wonder if Ryan Seacrest is either the next Dick Clark or the next Casey Kasem. Basically, he's both, and not just because he hosts both AT40 and Rockin' New Year. He has become the hardest-working DJ in the business. Millennials and the generation after will likely revere Seacrest in the same way we revere Clark and Kasem. So stop the hate, folks! Ryan Seacrest is keeping our favorite show alive! Most of this is true, except that I don't think "Casey Kasem himself named Seacrest his successor". More likely that was done by someone higher up at Premiere or wherever, and Casey expressed his approval. |
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