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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 29, 2014 5:42:25 GMT -5
I rather enjoy Michael Damian's version of Rock On. Donny, not so much.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 29, 2014 5:44:36 GMT -5
Love On The Rocks & Guilty are great songs. Lennon's hit is also great. Though I like Hungry Heart, it being the only good song Springsteen has, I don't consider it a #1 over the other 3.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Jul 29, 2014 10:35:50 GMT -5
Truth be told: I'm sure many people felt Elvis Presley should've gotten his 18th #1 single when "Burning Love" was creeping to the top occupied by the unlikely hit "My Ding-a-Ling." But the following week, they were both overtaken by the classic single "Nights In White Satin," which itself was overtaken by the bigger hit "I Can See Clearly Now" to the top spot.
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Post by renfield75 on Jul 29, 2014 13:55:02 GMT -5
I get what you're saying…even without chart-rigging theories, sometimes a truly massive number one song will be so strong in sales and airplay that a weaker track can float to #2 (something has to be number two no matter what, right?). And if that number one song hadn't existed, maybe its sales and airplay would have gone to another song other than what was #2, meaning that #2 song never would have gone to the top no matter what.
For example, "Waiting For A Girl Like You" and "Baker Street" were massive hits that had the misfortune of being out at the same time as an even bigger hit. It happened recently on the Hot 100 with "Get Lucky" and "Problem". Then there are songs like "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You" that so completely dominated all sales and airplay at the time that less potent chart challengers like "Fading Like A Flower" and "It Ain't Over Til It's Over" were able to come in second. Whether the gap in chart points is tight between big hits (like "Blurred Lines" vs "Get Lucky") or a giant chasm (like "(EID) IDIFY)" vs "Fading Like A Flower") it's still just #1 vs #2. And when so much attention goes to number one it lets a softer, ultimately more forgettable song drift into the runner-up spot.
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Post by mkarns on Jul 29, 2014 14:00:34 GMT -5
I get what you're saying…even without chart-rigging theories, sometimes a truly massive number one song will be so strong in sales and airplay that a weaker track can float to #2 (something has to be number two no matter what, right?). And if that number one song hadn't existed, maybe its sales and airplay would have gone to another song other than what was #2, meaning that #2 song never would have gone to the top no matter what. For example, "Waiting For A Girl Like You" and "Baker Street" were massive hits that had the misfortune of being out at the same time as an even bigger hit. That, and "Baker Street" was quite possibly robbed. "Waiting for a Girl Like You" maybe so as well, not so much due to manipulation as to the general early 1980s rules of when a song could or couldn't move up depending on "stars" or bullets.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 14:48:44 GMT -5
^ that rule sucked
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Post by 80sat40fan on Jul 29, 2014 17:03:14 GMT -5
In reviewing the 1975 - 1979 charts...
* Good thing that "50 Ways To Leave Your Lover" by Paul Simon cruised from #10 to #1 so that "Love To Love You Baby" by Donna Summer couldn't move past #2. Donna Summer sang some mighty fine songs... LTLYB ain't one of them. The sad thing is "You Sexy Thing" by Hot Chocolate peaked at #3 and "Sing A Song" by Earth Wind & Fire peaked at #5 while LTLYB was at #2. YST and SAS are infinitely better songs than LTLYB.
* It took both Andy Gibb's "I Just Want To Be Your Everything" and "Best Of My Love" by The Emotions in return stints to #1 to keep what would have been a really, really, really weak song from going to #1... "Float On" by The Floaters. The fact that "Float On" floated down to #19 immediately after its two week stay at #2 tells you how weak that song was. The song held out of the #2 position? "Don't Stop" by Fleetwood Mac stopped at #3!
I liked all of the other songs which peaked at #2 during those years.
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Post by chrislc on Jul 30, 2014 10:20:29 GMT -5
Imagine if Bread & Butter by The Newbeats had edged out The House Of The Rising Sun. Yikes.
And Snoopy Vs. The Red Baron - #2 for 4 weeks! Thank you, Monkees and Neil Diamond.
And honorary mention to #3 They're Coming To Take Me Away Ha-Haaaaaa. Just imagine - if John Sebastian had never thought of Summer In The City - the only song keeping Napoleon XIV from #1 would have been Lil' Red Riding Hood. We came pretty close to having a song being banned after reaching #1.
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Post by jmack19 on Jul 30, 2014 13:53:31 GMT -5
Here are 3 overachieving #2 songs stopped in their tracks by #1 songs from the #1 album that week:
Working My Way Back To You/Forgive Me, Girl I Didn't Mean To Turn You On The Lover In Me
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Post by woolebull on Sept 17, 2014 0:34:38 GMT -5
I think that "Dancing In The Dark" is actually one of the strongest number 2's ever. That song was all over the place back in 1984, seemingly in step with "Doves". It just had the misfortune of coming out the same time as "Doves". In fact, looking at the other songs that competed against those two songs at the time for the top 2 spots, such as "Jump (For My Love)" "Eyes Without A Face", and "Self Control", if "Doves" wasn't around, "Dark" would have probably held the number one spot for a month or so. If I didn't follow the charts and you asked me what number "Dancing In The Dark" went to, I'd say number one without hesitation. (It did spend a week at number one on R and R).
Though it is not really an answer to the original question, one #2 song that is interesting, if not the weakest, (though an argument could be made for it), would be "I Want Your Sex". I think 1987 was the closest that the number ones on Billboard and R and R were identical, but if "Sex" had hit the top of Billboard, it would have peaked no higher than 7 on R and R. You didn't see discrepancies like that on the two charts in 1987.
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