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Post by woolebull on May 21, 2014 20:26:03 GMT -5
20 years ago, Morrisey had about as interesting of a run on CT40/Dees as he is himself. "The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get" debuted at 30, went to 29, dropped to 32, jumped to 28 for two weeks, slipped to 33 and was off the charts. And that got me thinking...
What songs have debuted high yet peaked in their debut week? Morrisey gets a pass because he inched up a notch before dropping (and subsequently rising again). The highest ranked song that I can think of that peaked in its first week on the 40 and dropped the second week is "Me, Myself, and I" by De La Soul which debuted at 34 on 7/22/89 on AT 40 and started dropping the next week. Surely there are many other songs that debuted high then started dropping immediately.
Note: "Erotica" debuted at 2, and never reached 1, on AT 40 but it held for three weeks at 2 so I would exclude it from this discussion.
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Post by dukelightning on May 21, 2014 21:22:47 GMT -5
Classic AT40 era record for that is held by "Chattanooga Choo Choo", debuted and peaked at 32 in 1978. And its 2 weeks at 32 were also its only weeks in the top 40.
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Post by mstgator on May 21, 2014 21:25:51 GMT -5
Van Halen's "Black And Blue" debuted at #34 on 6/18/88, slipped to #37, and then was gone.
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Post by woolebull on May 21, 2014 21:37:12 GMT -5
Van Halen's "Black And Blue" debuted at #34 on 6/18/88, slipped to #37, and then was gone. I should have gotten that one for sure. I loved that song and my jaw dropped when I saw the BB charts the next week after it debuted at #34. |
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Post by woolebull on May 21, 2014 21:39:15 GMT -5
Classic AT40 era record for that is held by "Chattanooga Choo Choo", debuted and peaked at 32 in 1978. And its 2 weeks at 32 were also its only weeks in the top 40. That's pretty sweet as well. It's interesting to note that is the highest charting song to do that. It actually didn't drop the next week, but still to debut at 32 and be off in two weeks is pretty impressive. |
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Post by 1finemrg on May 21, 2014 22:19:33 GMT -5
This doesn't quite fit but still interesting. "Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne" by the Looking Glass debuted and peaked at #33, held at #33 a second week, fell to #39, then out of the Top 40.
Also Steppenwolf's comeback "Straight Shootin' Woman" debuted at #36, jumped to #29, held at #29, then fell out of the Top 40.
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Post by woolebull on May 21, 2014 23:26:47 GMT -5
This doesn't quite fit but still interesting. "Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne" by the Looking Glass debuted and peaked at #33, held at #33 a second week, fell to #39, then out of the Top 40. Also Steppenwolf's comeback "Straight Shootin' Woman" debuted at #36, jumped to #29, held at #29, then fell out of the Top 40. Yeah, it doesn't quite fit, but it is those kinds of songs that I'm trying to find. Kind of like Morrisey sticks out for me debuting at 30 and then going berzerk. |
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Post by mga707 on May 22, 2014 17:50:30 GMT -5
This doesn't quite fit but still interesting. "Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne" by the Looking Glass debuted and peaked at #33, held at #33 a second week, fell to #39, then out of the Top 40. Also Steppenwolf's comeback "Straight Shootin' Woman" debuted at #36, jumped to #29, held at #29, then fell out of the Top 40. Your mention of Looking Glass' 'other' sort-of-hit jogged my memory: There was another record from that same time period that also had unusual chart moves. From late August to early October 1973, "Stoned Out of My Mind" by the Chi-lites had the following chart history: 36(debut)-31-38-30-30-off chart |
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Post by dukelightning on May 22, 2014 18:07:15 GMT -5
And that in turn reminds me of a song on AT40 during 3 of those weeks for the Chi-Lites. "Ghetto Child" was the highest debut record at 30 one week. A lot of people listening and/or following the chart at the time would have thought, another top 10 or close to it for the Spinners. Their last 3 releases were all at least close to the top 10. It climbed to 29, held there a second week and fell out. I think it is as good as their previous release "One of a Kind" although not quite as good as "I'll Be Around" or "Could it be I'm Falling in Love".
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Post by 1finemrg on May 22, 2014 20:38:05 GMT -5
And that in turn reminds me of a song on AT40 during 3 of those weeks for the Chi-Lites. "Ghetto Child" was the highest debut record at 30 one week. A lot of people listening and/or following the chart at the time would have thought, another top 10 or close to it for the Spinners. Their last 3 releases were all at least close to the top 10. It climbed to 29, held there a second week and fell out. I think it is as good as their previous release "One of a Kind" although not quite as good as "I'll Be Around" or "Could it be I'm Falling in Love". Could have been a case of 4 top 40 hits from the same album. Actually 5 songs charted, since "I'll Be Around" was originally the "B" side. "How Could I Let You Get Away" made it to #77, then fell off after 5 weeks. In those days it was a rarity, although Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose did it as well. In fact, all 5 of CB & SR's Hot 100 singles came from their self-titled album. There was usually a drop off in peak position from subsequent 45s, after the first 2 singles from an album in the 70s. |
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Post by dukelightning on May 22, 2014 20:49:07 GMT -5
^That's fascinating. A first single that made the top 5 and then nearly a year later, a second single was released. I see the album did not chart until even later then the second single charted. Any idea why the delay? Reminds me somewhat of Dan Fogelberg's 'The Innocent Age' Lp where the first single was released in late 1980 but the second single and album were not out until nearly the fall of 1981, meaning Dan had not finished recording the album until that time (I presume). That what happened with the Cornelius Bros. & Sister Rose?
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Post by jlthorpe on May 22, 2014 20:54:54 GMT -5
^That's fascinating. A first single that made the top 5 and then nearly a year later, a second single was released. I see the album did not chart until even later then the second single charted. Any idea why the delay? Reminds me somewhat of Dan Fogelberg's 'The Innocent Age' Lp where the first single was released in late 1980 but the second single and album were not out until nearly the fall of 1981, meaning Dan had not finished recording the album until that time (I presume). That what happened with the Cornelius Bros. & Sister Rose? Maybe they released the first and second singles with no intention of releasing an album, and then they decided to record an album and put the first two hits on there? This was the early 70s, so I'm guessing acts were still releasing singles without albums at that point. |
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Post by 1finemrg on May 22, 2014 21:02:19 GMT -5
^That's fascinating. A first single that made the top 5 and then nearly a year later, a second single was released. I see the album did not chart until even later then the second single charted. Any idea why the delay? Reminds me somewhat of Dan Fogelberg's 'The Innocent Age' Lp where the first single was released in late 1980 but the second single and album were not out until nearly the fall of 1981, meaning Dan had not finished recording the album until that time (I presume). That what happened with the Cornelius Bros. & Sister Rose? I'm guessing that "Treat Her Like A Lady" was initially intended as a single release only. The album was probably put together to coincide with the release of the second single "Too Late To Turn Back Now", and the first single was included. Once that became a hit, the album started gaining momentum. Either that or they put together an album to ride on the momentum of the second single, and precede the third 45, "Don't Ever Be Lonely (A Poor Little Fool Like Me)'. |
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Post by dukelightning on May 22, 2014 21:09:33 GMT -5
Good points guys. You are on to it for sure. Maybe after the success of "Treat Her Like a Lady", they decided to record an entire album. And it took several months to do that. So they had no songs to release for those several months as the recording went on. Funny Casey never had a story about this. Would have been a good one to hear.
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Post by jdelachjr2002 on May 22, 2014 22:16:43 GMT -5
Listening to Shadoe Stevens' AT40 chronologically (5/29/1993 is playing right now) here's another one.
"Tell Me What You Dream" - Restless Heart
5/1/1993: #38
5/8/1993: #39
5/15/1993: #39
5/22/1993: #40
5/29/1993: Off
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