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Post by Mike on Mar 12, 2023 20:48:34 GMT -5
This month is a good example of why I prefer the Hot 100 charts to R&R. "Something Happened on the Way to Heaven" hit #1 on the latter but not the former. Opposite for "Close to You" by Maxi Priest. I prefer Close and it illustrates how radio goes for the known quantity while the record buyer goes for the catchier, hipper song. It would also be around this point where CT40 would fall into a period where their R&R #1 songs would reach the top either after or at the same time that they did on the Hot 100. 10/13: "Praying For Time" hits the top both places. 10/20: George gives up #1 to "I Don't Have the Heart" on the Hot 100, but stays atop CT40 for a 2nd week. 10/27: "Black Cat" hits the top both places. 11/3: "Ice Ice Baby" tops the Hot 100, while "I Don't Have the Heart" now gets there on CT40. I believe this is the only time in R&R's history up through 1991 where two songs topped both R&R and the Hot 100, but not in the same order on each chart (the songs in question being "Black Cat" and "I Don't Have the Heart"). 11/10: "Love Takes Time" takes over on the Hot 100, while "Ice Ice Baby" now gets there on CT40. 11/17: Both songs hold in place. 11/24: Third week atop the Hot 100 for Mariah, while this would have been the week she got there on CT40 had they had a regular countdown (though she'd get the recognition via Dees who did have one this week). 12/1: Mariah gives up #1 to "I'm Your Baby Tonight" on the Hot 100, but stays atop CT40 for a 2nd week. 12/8: Whitney hits #1 on CT40 but gives that up on the Hot 100 to "Because I Love You (The Postman Song)". 12/15: Stevie B hits #1 on CT40 and stays atop the Hot 100. 12/22: 3rd week atop the Hot 100 for Stevie B, and even with CT40 doing Part 1 of their Top 100 this would be his 2nd week atop there anyway. 12/29: Both countdowns doing Year-Ends. 1/5: Stevie B gives up #1 to "Justify My Love" on the Hot 100, but stays atop CT40. 1/12: 2nd week atop the Hot 100 for Madonna, who now gets there on CT40. 1/19: "Love Will Never Do (Without You)" hits the top both places. 1/26: Janet gives up #1 to "The First Time" on the Hot 100, but stays atop CT40 for a 2nd week. 2/2: Both songs hold in place. 2/9: Surface hit #1 on CT40 but give that up on the Hot 100 to "Gonna Make You Sweat". And this is where the story ends as that stopped at #3 on CT40. (Plus, "All the Man That I Need" would top CT40 on 2/16, a week before doing the same on the Hot 100.)
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Mar 12, 2023 23:52:58 GMT -5
I recently heard the CT40 from 10/15/1994, and I remember that dedication. It was nice to hear a different song for a change. Casey only got to count that song down twice, before his departure. I know "Hold My Hand" had a very lengthy run in the 40; will be hearing it a lot. It's a great song.
I will likely complete my 1994 marathon tomorrow morning; currently at #37 on the year-end. Then it's on to 1995, the last year that began on a Sunday that precedes a leap year, like 2023 does (the 28-year rule, which only doesn't work if a year ending in 00 is not evenly divisible by 400 comes in between, like 1900 and 2100). 1995 will be fun to run through, and by Thanksgiving weekend, the theme music will be completely changed over. The jingles changed in the 6/24 show (same for the promo beds), but the original 1989 intro didn't fully change until 11/25. We'd hear a partial change in the intro to 12/17/1994, which is the same theme that Casey's Hot 20 debuted with on 11/5/1994. Twas interesting to hear the slower theme conversion (wonder why they did it that way).
Love that Taylor Dayne song, "Heart Of Stone", my favorite single from that album.
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Post by dukelightning on Mar 13, 2023 9:28:12 GMT -5
Those 2 Taylor songs I heard yesterday along with "Can't Get Enough of Your Love" and maybe a couple others are basically tied for my second fave songs by her, behind my fave "Don't Rush Me". I compiled the complete list of #1 divergence from the Hot 100 on the R&R chart in reply to Mike's post. Here it is up through the time the Hot 100 went to a monitored chart. Instead of the number of hits that were divergent, I went by weeks since that is a more accurate measurement. There were 3 weeks in 1973 when the R&R #1 hit was a song that did not hit #1 on the Hot 100("Goodbye Yellowbrick Road"). There were no weeks in either 1974 or 1975 when there was a divergent #1 hit. But while there were 35 hits that reached #1 in both years on the Hot 100, there were only 18 #1 hits both years at R&R. Then, 1976...3 weeks, 1977...6 weeks, 1978...7 weeks, 1979...15 weeks, 1980...17 weeks, 1981...24 weeks, 1982...21 weeks(major divergence those 2 years-"Waiting for a Girl Like You" 6 weeks, "I Can't Go For That" 8 weeks versus 1 week on the Hot 100, "Open Arms" 7 weeks, "Make a Move on Me" 1 week and "Don't Talk to Strangers" 5 weeks were consecutive #1 hits which means "Physical", "Centerfold" and "I Love Rock & Roll" with a combined 23 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 did not reach #1 at R&R.) Continuing, 1983...14 weeks, 1984...7 weeks, 1985...3 weeks, 1986...7 weeks, 1987...1 week("Carrie"), 1988..1 week("Pour Some Sugar on Me"), 1989...1 week("Cherish"), 1990...7 weeks, 1991...2 weeks("Touch Me" and "Right Here, Right Now").
So I mentioned the Hot 100 going to a monitored chart. And I mentioned yesterday how there would be one date left in the 6 year period when there were AT40 and CT40 shows every week in which I had not heard either show. That date is the week before that change occurred, 11/23/91. It is the last AT40 based on the Hot 100 that I am listening to therefore. One reason I am sorry they made that change when they did is because my fave song in this show, "Something Got Me Started" which was moving 27-23 in this show, fell out next week. We mentioned how Casey said in the 1976 show that if you were waiting to hear Elton's hit, you could stop waiting or whatever since it fell out of the top 40 to many people's surprise("Grow Some Funk of Your Own"). Same comment could have been made by Shadoe about Something and probably a few others in the 11/30/91 show. There were 12 debuts that week after there were 6 in this show. An asterisked record but a record nonetheless for the most debuts over a 2 week period in AT40 history with 18. I think the actual record is still 16 over the first 2 weeks of July 1978 though one of those weeks AT40 did a special.
Speaking of records, there may be one for the shortest segment that featured 2 songs and either a story or an answer to a question in this show. The second segment was only 6 minutes long and included "Mr. Sandman", a answer to a question about the most weeks at a peak and the Geto Boys' "Mind Playing Tricks on Me", the latter barely over a minute long! The official video for Sandman is almost as long as that whole segment! Ridiculous and then the next song was another rap hit "2 Legit 2 Quit" and they let that go for 4 and a half minutes. Totally inconsistent!
Shadoe told a story of how despite "Ring My Bell" going gold in just a few weeks, Anita Ward, who toured for 3 years on the strength of that song, only made money from her touring. The record company claimed that they did not press copies of the record fast enough(which seems like an obvious lie though that's my opinion not Shadoe talking) and they ended up filing for bankruptcy. So Anita did not make any money off of the single, just her touring. Told that before playing the DJ Dazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince cover.
Played a montage of John Mellancamp's 9 top 10 hits. He was another artist who had the rug pulled out from under him as a result of the chart change. "Get a Leg Up" was up 5 notches to 14 this week but was gone the next week. Had to wait another 3 years until "Wild Night" to get his 10th top 10 hit. Then Shadoe said Nia Peeples was top 10 bound moving up 5 notches to #12. Nope dropped to 15 the next week! Next was "OPP" edited to under 2 minutes. That's the third such song in this show and it was followed by "Don't Cry" at #10 which was also the LDD and the highest hit that dropped out the next week. So in a show with 3 songs edited down to 2 minutes or less, they only play 40 songs though they did play last week's #1 song to start it. Check that, 41 different songs as "Mysterious Ways" was the sneak peak with Shadoe saying that it entered the Hot 100 at #77. Probably the last time he ever mentions the Hot 100 in connection with the current week.
Shadoe makes a mistake when he lists all the songs which have hit #1 twice as "When A Man Loves A Woman" becomes the 7th hit to do that. Omitted "Please Mr. Postman". It's either this or "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You' that is the worst #1 hit of the 90s for me. Not a Bolton fan obviously!
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Post by Mike on Mar 13, 2023 13:09:36 GMT -5
One other "due to the chart change" distinction that that last Hot 100 week has is that it causes 7 songs up in the Top 10 to all be peaking in the countdown that week. (The three that don't? Last week's #1 "Cream", now #2, last week's #2 "Can't Stop This Thing We Started", now #5, and "Blowing Kisses in the Wind" at #8.)
Believe it or not, that is a mark that has been equaled at least once, and not due to chart changes: 3/17/90 also has 7 songs out of the Top 10 all peaking that week. (The three that don't? Future #1s "Black Velvet" and "Love Will Lead You Back", at #2 and #4 that week, and "I Wish it Would Rain Down" at #8, on its way to #3.)
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Post by doofus67 on Mar 13, 2023 13:34:53 GMT -5
I compiled the complete list of #1 divergence from the Hot 100 on the R&R chart in reply to Mike's post. Here it is up through the time the Hot 100 went to a monitored chart. Instead of the number of hits that were divergent, I went by weeks since that is a more accurate measurement. There were 3 weeks in 1973 when the R&R #1 hit was a song that did not hit #1 on the Hot 100 ("Goodbye Yellow Brick Road"). There were no weeks in either 1974 or 1975 when there was a divergent #1 hit. But while there were 35 hits that reached #1 in both years on the Hot 100, there were only 18 #1 hits both years at R&R. Then, 1976...3 weeks, 1977...6 weeks, 1978...7 weeks, 1979...15 weeks, 1980...17 weeks, 1981...24 weeks, 1982...21 weeks (major divergence those 2 years-"Waiting for a Girl Like You" 6 weeks, "I Can't Go For That" 8 weeks versus 1 week on the Hot 100, "Open Arms" 7 weeks, "Make a Move on Me" 1 week and "Don't Talk to Strangers" 5 weeks were consecutive #1 hits which means "Physical", "Centerfold" and "I Love Rock & Roll" with a combined 23 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 did not reach #1 at R&R). Continuing, 1983...14 weeks, 1984...7 weeks, 1985...3 weeks, 1986...7 weeks, 1987...1 week ("Carrie"), 1988..1 week ("Pour Some Sugar on Me"), 1989...1 week ("Cherish"), 1990...7 weeks, 1991...2 weeks ("Touch Me" and "Right Here, Right Now"). I give you guys credit for gathering all of this info. But I have a feeling you didn't use my Number Ones Across the Charts thread in GMD. It would have saved you a little bit of work...
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Post by dukelightning on Mar 14, 2023 9:47:40 GMT -5
One other "due to the chart change" distinction that that last Hot 100 week has is that it causes 7 songs up in the Top 10 to all be peaking in the countdown that week. (The three that don't? Last week's #1 "Cream", now #2, last week's #2 "Can't Stop This Thing We Started", now #5, and "Blowing Kisses in the Wind" at #8.) Believe it or not, that is a mark that has been equaled at least once, and not due to chart changes: 3/17/90 also has 7 songs out of the Top 10 all peaking that week. (The three that don't? Future #1s "Black Velvet" and "Love Will Lead You Back", at #2 and #4 that week, and "I Wish it Would Rain Down" at #8, on its way to #3.) Another "due to the chart change" oddity occurred a couple weeks later. On 12/7/91, all 3 droppers had been on AT40 the previous week but not the week before that. Though they were not all one week on AT40 and done hits. "Housecall" and "A Day in My Life Without You" debuted at 40 and 39, respectively and "Wind of Change" re-debuted at 32 on 11/30. They all dropped out on 12/7. So this must be the only time that all the droppers were hits that debuted or re-debuted the previous week. I overlooked a date in which I had not heard either the AT40 or CT40 so it's the latter from 12/16/89 that I am hearing. Just heard a great story about Tom Petty. The record label wanted to shoot a video showing Tom in his native Florida. So they went there and down to the lake where there were many alligators. But after a half hour with no trace of any gators on the lake, the whole crew gave up and started to leave. But just then, an alligator made a splash. So Tom quickly went back down the embankment to the lake. While others were telling him to not go any closer, he ignored them thinking that the alligator being still in the water, could not possibly get to him. But then the gator jumped out of the water and landed right next to Tom! He scrambled and got back up the embankment. Then the guy shooting the video who was supposedly shooting this whole scene told the bad news. He had been shooting with no film! This show has woolebull's and one of my fave songs in it, "Two to Make it Right". On the other hand, "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You" is bearable making "When a Man Loves a Woman" my worst #1 hit of the 90s. But I definitely prefer Laura Branigan's version. "With Every Beat of My Heart" is one of those other Taylor Dayne hits I alluded to the other day that is right up there among my faves by her.
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Post by dukelightning on Mar 14, 2023 18:22:48 GMT -5
Another fall show. (I have heard a lot of winter shows since I have more time to listen this time of the year. The other seasons with warmer weather allowing me to get outside a lot more often leaving less time to listen to shows. So this winter I am playing catchup with those other seasons mainly summer and fall). This one is the CT40 from 11/22/97. Casey says there are 24 artists having their first hit. I think that is the highest such number I have heard. Also said there were 5 teen artists which is also going to be hard to top. They are Imani Coppola, the only one I would not have known was a teenager, Hanson, Usher with a great song "You Make Me Wanna", LeAnn Rimes and Robyn. Got faked out by LeAnn and "How Do I Live", a LDD after #7. Thought it was a hit earlier in the year and thus not in the countdown. So when Casey said the next song was #5, I thought that he had skipped a song. Turns out Live was the #6 hit. My memory as to when it was a hit failed me a bit there!
This is the week that Mariah holds at #12 and puts her never missing the top 10 streak in jeopardy. The next week would be when that streak would officially come to an end. Let's see if my memory is failing me here too. There was a shift in the alternative sound to a bouncier, more energetic beat in the late 90s that would have made the mid 90s a lot more listenable had it started earlier in the decade. 2 songs seemed to usher in that sound, Third Eye Blind's "Semi-Charmed Life" which just finished out a 4 month run in the top 10 and still in there "Walkin' On the Sun" by Smash Mouth. M20's "Push" might also be in that group at #3. In any case, when it comes to a lot of 1997 and 1998, my fave songs always seem to be in or near the top 10.
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Post by Mike on Mar 14, 2023 23:58:52 GMT -5
Also said there were 5 teen artists which is also going to be hard to top. Topping that might be tough, but how about at least equaling that mark? Because that's what we get in a show I heard earlier today (well, yesterday - almost 1 AM at this typing now). 3/18/2000, just as teen pop was hitting its heights, had four prospective Pop princesses (two lasting much longer than the others) - Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, Mandy Moore, and a fifth who was in her second week with her only hit, Hoku. That will extend for a second week, as Britney and Mandy drop out, but replacing them will be Jessica Riddle (her only week, and just three weeks shy of turning 20) and Hanson.
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Post by freakyflybry on Mar 15, 2023 22:56:22 GMT -5
In memory of Bobby Caldwell, I put on AT40 from March 17, 1979. "What You Won't Do For Love" was #10 that week.
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Post by dukelightning on Mar 18, 2023 9:57:22 GMT -5
Kind of feel like OnWithTheCountdown lately with his hearing every show from 1994. Though he is on to 1995 by now. This is my 4th show from the fall of 1994 that I have heard lately though this is the first AT40 in that span, from 11/12. Shadoe is mailing it in IMO. Not much excitement in his voice. I am guessing he has known for awhile, maybe since July went AT40 went dark in the US, that the end is coming in a couple months. He makes a mistake to boot saying that STP is from LA. They are from San Diego but "Interstate Love Song" is one of my faves nonetheless.
Played a LDD from a South Africa guy who reminded people that they don't live in mud huts and that lions and tigers don't roam the streets. Then Shadoe mentioned it was a really great country, one that he had been in just a few months earlier when there were back to back shows guest hosted.
It must not have taken astute listeners long to figure out something was up when the only stationed Id'd by Shadoe were from foreign countries.
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Post by woolebull on Mar 18, 2023 11:37:02 GMT -5
Just about to finish up the "Blizzard Show" from CT40 3/13/93. It's a wild show with everything from Dr. Dre and Snoop to Mary Chapin Carpenter. One cool thing about the show: As Casey was introducing, "Angel" by Jon Secada, he referenced that Jon was from the home of the Dolphins, the Heat, and the Marlins (Miami). What was cool is that at that moment the Marlins had not played their first regular season game. That would be a few weeks after the show.
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Post by dukelightning on Mar 18, 2023 11:44:21 GMT -5
Just about to finish up the "Blizzard Show" from CT40 3/13/93. It's a wild show with everything from Dr. Dre and Snoop to Mary Chapin Carpenter. One cool thing about the show: As Casey was introducing, "Angel" by Jon Secada, he referenced that Jon was from the home of the Dolphins, the Heat, and the Marlins (Miami). What was cool is that at that moment the Marlins had not played their first regular season game. That would be a few weeks after the show. And it's not even the first time he mentioned the Marlins. In the 12/5/92 show, he mentioned them along with the Dolphins and Heat, as being one of baseball's new teams. Not remembering if it was Jon Secada or Saigon Kick that he tied them in with.
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Post by woolebull on Mar 18, 2023 11:52:51 GMT -5
Just finished the 12/5/92 CT40 that I started last night. woolebull liked my last post and this sounds like something he would comment about. Or at least the question I am going to throw out there is one that woolebull would ask. (We all have our little nuances in listening to these shows!) The first R&D was "With or Without You" and the second R&D was "Always", the long version which makes a great song even greater IMO. That almost represents consecutive #1 hits and this is true for both the Hot 100 and R&R with "You Keep Me Hangin' On" being the only #1 hit in between that pair. Is this the closest AT40/CT40 has ever come to a 60s/70s #1 archive-style consecutive #1 hits as LDD/R&Ds? Haha, that is the exact question I would ask! You know me well, dukelightning ! That has to be the closest two #1's were played as part of an LDD/R&D.
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Post by woolebull on Mar 18, 2023 11:56:45 GMT -5
Just about to finish up the "Blizzard Show" from CT40 3/13/93. It's a wild show with everything from Dr. Dre and Snoop to Mary Chapin Carpenter. One cool thing about the show: As Casey was introducing, "Angel" by Jon Secada, he referenced that Jon was from the home of the Dolphins, the Heat, and the Marlins (Miami). What was cool is that at that moment the Marlins had not played their first regular season game. That would be a few weeks after the show. And it's not even the first time he mentioned the Marlins. In the 12/5/92 show, he mentioned them along with the Dolphins and Heat, as being one of baseball's new teams. Not remembering if it was Jon Secada or Saigon Kick that he tied them in with. That's awesome! What caught me off guard was that he didn't mention they were a new team on the 3/13/93 show. I was running and as he said that I was thinking to myself that the Marlins hadn't played a regular season game yet. Fun fact: the Marlins have never won their division in 30 years. They have won the World Series twice, however. As a Braves fan, this fun fact isn't so fun!
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Mar 18, 2023 12:05:25 GMT -5
Just about to finish up the "Blizzard Show" from CT40 3/13/93. It's a wild show with everything from Dr. Dre and Snoop to Mary Chapin Carpenter. One cool thing about the show: As Casey was introducing, "Angel" by Jon Secada, he referenced that Jon was from the home of the Dolphins, the Heat, and the Marlins (Miami). What was cool is that at that moment the Marlins had not played their first regular season game. That would be a few weeks after the show. I remember that weekend well. Was in northeast PA at the time. I had to work that day, and had to walk a quarter mile in knee-deep snow. I heard that show last year.
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