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Post by Mike on Jul 25, 2022 18:12:35 GMT -5
Started Insider Top 40 from 7/28/90 hosted by "The Duke" Dave Sholin. Just getting into it and I am realizing that Insider didn't use R&R:. In the intro Michael Bolton is at #2 with "When I'm Back On My Feet Again" and two of the songs at the beginning never hit R and R or Billboard Top 40:. Sinead's, "Emperor's New Clothes" and Don Henley's "How Bad Do You Want It". I thought I saw it on this board before, but if anyone knows the source used for this show, I would appreciate it! "How Bad Do You Want It" did hit R&R - #33. Insider used The Gavin Report. And it looks like you missed one: Jimmy Ryser's "Same Old Look", which only reached #78 on the Hot 100. ("Clothes" reached #60.)
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jul 25, 2022 21:10:21 GMT -5
Well, done with 1981 (in the latter half of the year-end show currently), and up to the 11/27/1993 CT40 (David Perry guest-hosted). Slowly but surely starting to close that gap. Would have been quicker but work and life circumstances are slowing it down. Should be up to late July 1982 and 1994. Maybe by the end of the year I can be on or close to schedule.
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Post by woolebull on Jul 26, 2022 8:04:22 GMT -5
Started Insider Top 40 from 7/28/90 hosted by "The Duke" Dave Sholin. Just getting into it and I am realizing that Insider didn't use R&R:. In the intro Michael Bolton is at #2 with "When I'm Back On My Feet Again" and two of the songs at the beginning never hit R and R or Billboard Top 40:. Sinead's, "Emperor's New Clothes" and Don Henley's "How Bad Do You Want It". I thought I saw it on this board before, but if anyone knows the source used for this show, I would appreciate it! "How Bad Do You Want It" did hit R&R - #33. Insider used The Gavin Report. And it looks like you missed one: Jimmy Ryser's "Same Old Look", which only reached #78 on the Hot 100. ("Clothes" reached #60.) Ha! Nope, I just hadn't gotten to it yet. I heard it on my run this morning...it's wild, I thought I knew every single from 1990, I have never heard that song in my life.
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Post by woolebull on Jul 26, 2022 18:53:00 GMT -5
So keeping on with "The Insider" from 7/28/90, one thing that struck me: The production was off a bit. I say this because I absolutely loved hearing, "Countdown USA" circa 1989. The production to me was up there with AT and maybe a bit better than Dees, and in my opinion much better than CT at the time. However, it blew my mind that Sholin introed and outroed Nelson's first hit as "(Can't Live Without Your) Love and Emotion". I am sure that it didn't help Stevie B was debuting with "Love and Emotion", but still. My man didn't nail the title at all, and no one caught it.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jul 28, 2022 20:17:31 GMT -5
Just wrapped up AT40's top 100 of 1981, finally into 1982, and Bob Eubanks is getting it started. Great song by Loverboy to kick off the new year, one that I heard at 5 PM every Friday that spring and summer on one local radio station.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Aug 2, 2022 5:55:15 GMT -5
Wrapping up CT40 from 12/18/1993, about to start the year-end. Have had a lot of early morning shifts, which really helps me get through the shows. Wouldn't have much time otherwise.
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Post by dukelightning on Aug 21, 2022 12:48:36 GMT -5
Rainy day brings me inside and back to listening to shows. The 8/19/89 CT40 should be the first of 2 today for me. Casey says that the Cure used to be called Malice. Did not know that neither did I remember that there was another 'incarnation of Starship led by Mickey Thomas and Craig Chaquico' as Casey said at this point in time. The previous incarnation including the then departed Grace Slick IIRC.
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Post by Mike on Aug 21, 2022 14:37:26 GMT -5
Did not know that neither did I remember that there was another 'incarnation of Starship led by Mickey Thomas and Craig Chaquico' as Casey said at this point in time. The previous incarnation including the then departed Grace Slick IIRC. That wasn't so much "another incarnation" as it was just a fancy way of indirectly referring to Grace no longer being there.
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Post by dukelightning on Aug 21, 2022 15:07:18 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty much! Casey says that Don Henley was responsible for songs that summed up the 70s and the 80s. The Los Angeles Times referred to the Eagles' "The Long Run" which Don co-wrote as the song that was really about the 70s for baby boomers. Critics referred to "The End of the Innocence" as the song that summed up the 80s. It's at #10 on this show. Casey also says that there are 5 heavy metal bands in the countdown...Bon Jovi, Skid Row, Winger, Warrant and Great White. All but Bon Jovi scored their first top 40 hit that year. Shows how heavy metal was near its peak then at least at the CHR format.
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Post by Mike on Aug 21, 2022 22:11:43 GMT -5
Casey also says that there are 5 heavy metal bands in the countdown...Bon Jovi, Skid Row, Winger, Warrant and Great White. All but Bon Jovi scored their first top 40 hit that year. Shows how heavy metal was near its peak then at least at the CHR format. And of the other four, Skid Row and Great White were two-hit wonders - the former only stretching into 1990 due to the second hitting the countdowns in December - while Winger and Warrant didn't extend past March/April 1991. Oddly enough, over on AT40, four of the five took up four slots of a five-song block right smack dab in the middle of the countdown: #22 Warrant, #20 Skid Row, #19 Winger, #18 Bon Jovi. The one that came between them at #21, wasn't without its own rock-y texture, as that was "If I Could Turn Back Time". Great White, meanwhile, were sitting at their peak of #5.
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Post by dukelightning on Aug 22, 2022 9:02:20 GMT -5
Like that factoid! Btw, Great White were also at their peak on CT40, at #8. My fave song by them is from their previous album which I bought, "Rock Me", reached #60. Speaking of AT40, that is the show for me now, from 8/14/93. Shadoe opens by mentioning that it is his 5 year anniversary hosting the show. Then he plays a U2 song that I was not familiar with which surprised me. "Numb" is their 10th top 40 hit and I know the first 9 all very well. This one debuted at 39 the previous week and dropped to 40. I can honestly say that if I heard this song without someone mentioning that it was U2 that I would not have identified the band. Certainly a different sound for them. Thought Shadoe was making a mistake when he said it was their 10th top 40 hit. Because it was their 11th such hit at R&R and except for "Pride (In the Name of Love)", all made the top 20. Turns out that "Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses" despite a #17 peak at R&R did NOT make it to AT40. Quite a surprise there IMO as that obviously got a lot of airplay to reach the top 20 and I am as familiar with that one as I am any of their 1987-92 hits. How many solid hits by big name acts failed to make AT40 that were eligible?
When I was hearing "So Into You" at 36, I was wondering on one hand whether I preferred it or "Weak" and on the other, how close they were to having 3 hits in the countdown. Afterward, Shadoe answered my query saying that SWV did indeed have 3 hits in the show with "Right Here/Human Nature" debuting at 34. Said they were the second female group ever to have 3 hits in the top 40. The first being the Supremes the week of 2/1/69. Of course these are their first 3 top 40 hits.
A couple remakes in this show (out of 6 total) are almost as good as the originals which I never would have thought could be matched or topped. "Lately" by Jocedi is a cover of a Stevie Wonder #64 hit from 1981 that may be his best ballad IMO and Taylor Dayne covers Barry White's "Can't Get Enough of Your Love, Babe". Shadoe played a clip of Barry saying that after he made love to his wife, he went to the kitchen and wrote that song. Then he said that it was his fastest climbing hit, reaching #1 in 2 weeks! Well not on the Hot 100 but maybe the soul chart he did that! My comment not Shadoe's who let that one go. Great song for both Barry and Taylor IMO. Flashback was from 5 years earlier of course..Shadoe's first show.
All 4 90s divas are in this show...Whitney has her 4th hit from The Bodyguard, Mariah has highest debut of the year with "Dreamlover" at 12, Janet has a pair with "If" and her biggest ever hit as Shadoe said "That's the Way Love Goes" and Madonna also has a pair with "Rain" a notch away from the top 10 and "True Blue" as the LDD.
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Post by Mike on Aug 22, 2022 11:40:11 GMT -5
Thought Shadoe was making a mistake when he said it was their 10th top 40 hit. Because it was their 11th such hit at R&R and except for "Pride (In the Name of Love)", all made the top 20. Turns out that "Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses" despite a #17 peak at R&R did NOT make it to AT40. Quite a surprise there IMO as that obviously got a lot of airplay to reach the top 20 and I am as familiar with that one as I am any of their 1987-92 hits. Wrong one. "Wild Horses" squeaked into the countdown when AT40 changed to the Mainstream chart to kick off 1993. It's "Even Better Than the Real Thing" - which went to #13 on R&R - that missed AT40 entirely. Had they stuck with the Radio Monitor, then "Wild Horses" would also have missed - "Real Thing" stopped at #43 on the Monitor, "Wild Horses" stopped at #42. But when they switched to Mainstream, that put "Wild Horses" in the countdown at #32 - as it was past its peak by then, it lasted all of two weeks. All 4 90s divas are in this show...Whitney has her 4th hit from The Bodyguard, Mariah has highest debut of the year with "Dreamlover" at 12, Janet has a pair with "If" and her biggest ever hit as Shadoe said "That's the Way Love Goes" and Madonna also has a pair with "Rain" a notch away from the top 10 and "True Blue" as the LDD. Worth noting that "Dreamlover" at #12 is still the all-time highest debut on the Mainstream chart today. It has only since been tied once, by Taylor Swift's "Shake it Off" on 9/6/2014.
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Post by dukelightning on Aug 23, 2022 8:09:12 GMT -5
Wow 2 U2 solid hits that would not have made it to AT40 but for the chart change. Must have been many listeners back then wondering why those songs were not in the countdown. Not sure if that Mainstream chart was available in 1991(a chart was started up in October 1992 IIRC) but it seems to be more representative of CHR. Mariah had an even higher debut IIRC with her previous hit "I'll Be There"...#4? But not on the Mainstream chart.
Today is the CT40 from 8/30/97 guest hosted by David Perry. Like that 1993 show, it starts with a hit that debuted the previous week at 39 and drops to 40. This one is much more appealing IMO...Wild Orchid with "Supernatural". This is an act that will not return to the top 40(third of 3 hits). The same can be said for the next 3 acts, all of which are one hit wonders....White Town, Samantha Cole and God's Property, the latter a gospel group. So a show starts with 4 acts that are not going to return to the top 40. Spice Girls were the first act that will have more hits and that girl group was followed by a boy group, Hanson. Only one debut and it's Sugar Ray with "Fly". David told a story of how they were on the recently finished Warped tour. This was a tour of bands representing many different genres where there was a lottery type drawing of cards to determine the order of play on any given day. Mighty Mighty Bosstones were the biggest band on the tour who once drew the first card and had to play at 12:30PM despite their headliner status and they will be heard from later in the show.
DMB has the obvious musical influences Grateful Dead and Pink Floyd and the not to obvious influences John Denver and Willie Nelson. Certainly would not have come up with that but it makes sense. "Crash Into Me" is one of my faves by them.
Puff Daddy has a hand in back to back songs at 15 and 14 that spent a combined 14 weeks at #1 on the Hot 100. First was his own "I'll Be Missing You" followed by Mariah's "Honey" that he produced. Another high debut for her with that one, at least on the Hot 100. It entered at #1 but was still 2 weeks away from doing that. Obviously this song was released to radio before the single was. Great song!
Wow I need to remember when certain song were hits. David teased a story involving "Where is the Love" and I thought it was the Black Eyed Peas coming up. Nope, it was Hanson. The Peas hit with that title in 2003 IIRC. Hear that a lot on the throwback station. Do prefer it to Hanson which David mentioned in the story as being struck by Beatlemania type fandom, having to wear ear plugs because of all the screams. Not my screams! That so0ng was almost part of what would have been a unique pair of pairs. Spice Girls and Hanson, girl and boy groups, respectively, each had a pair of hits in the show and they were almost both in pairs. They were at 36 and 35 and then at 6 and 4, the latter being the sultry "2 Become 1". Yeah I definitely like that one! And then yet another boy band/group at #2 with the Backstreet Boys. Last 3 even numbered positions being girl or boy band/groups.
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Post by dukelightning on Aug 24, 2022 14:15:32 GMT -5
Continuing my pattern of listening to a show from 4 years later than the previous one, it is the AT40 from 8/18/01. Casey is doing this show on the date that is one week before Aaliyah died in a plane crash, already heard that show. This is the second straight show with one debut and almost at the same position. It was #32 in the 1997 show and in this one, Alicia Keys makes her overall chart debut too, at #33 with the current #1 R&B hit "Fallen". Both "Fallen" and Sugar Ray's "Fly" went to #1! I am guessing that I can almost count on one hand the number of only debuts that were also #1 hits. Casey tells a story about another female soloist, Nelly Furtado who learned to play the guitar by continuously listening to a song by her fave band Oasis. Ironically it was "Wonderwall" which I have read that Oasis no longer likes. Nelly was also influenced by Billy Joel and the Verve.
Been wondering about this stat for many years! Before playing Darude's "Sandstorm", the first instrumental to reach the top 40 in the 2000s, Casey reviews how many they were in each decade. 216 instrumentals made the top 40 in the 50s, 172 in the 60s, 54 in the 70s, 16 in the 80s and 5 in the 90s. I think the downward trend continued in the 2000s and I cannot name the second one to reach the top 40 in it!
"Fill Me In" is one of my faves by Southampton, site of the Titanics' launching, born Craig David.
Got faked out again by what I thought would be played. In this case, it was one of America's Top hits tracks. Casey talked about Natalie Imbruglia and I thought it would be the followup hit to "Torn" which I had no idea of. But "Torn" was indeed played as Casey said it was one of the biggest hits 3 years ago this week. Seems like this should have been played in May or June but not mid August. Now this is a GREAT song. But as it happens, this week in 1998 was the last week that it was higher on the chart than that followup hit "Wishing I Was There", which I cannot even hum showing how little I know about that song. Need to hear a late summer 1998 show!
WOW!! The biggest mover is only up 4 notches. It's "Hit Em Up Style" for Blu Cantrell, a great song headed to #1 that moves 10-6. If you add up the number of debuts and the notches of the week's biggest mover to assign a numerical value to all of that, you would get a 5 for this show. That's got to be a record low. Both the debut and mover went to #1.
One female artist who did not hit #1 despite Casey saying that if she did, it would be her 10th was Janet. Just finished watching the documentary on her, a 4 part series. It's a must watch IMO. Covers her entire life to date as it was filmed between 2017 and this year. Highlights: Paula Abdul as choreographer was behind her Control album. Remember that Paula was in that role before becoming a recording artist. Janet's first tour supporting the Rhythm Nation 1814 album was and still is the most successful first tour by any artist. I already knew that her next album Janet was meant to show off her sultry, sexual side. "Someone to Call My Lover" is the hit Casey was talking about in this show, stalling out at #3. Janet inspired artists from Aaliyah to Britney Spears to Missy Elliott, herself a notch higher in her duet with Gwen Stefani on "Let Me Blow Your Mind".
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Post by woolebull on Aug 25, 2022 1:03:46 GMT -5
Been wondering about this stat for many years! Before playing Darude's "Sandstorm", the first instrumental to reach the top 40 in the 2000s, Casey reviews how many they were in each decade. 216 instrumentals made the top 40 in the 50s, 172 in the 60s, 54 in the 70s, 16 in the 80s and 5 in the 90s. I think the downward trend continued in the 2000s and I cannot name the second one to reach the top 40 in it! "Fill Me In" is one of my faves by Southampton, site of the Titanics' launching, born Craig David. From the "You can't make it up department", I sat here and stared at the above paragraph for 15 minutes trying to figure out the fifth instrumental to hit the top 40 in the 90's. I had Lily, Forever In Love, Children, and Mission Impossible in two seconds but couldn't figure out the fifth. Resigned to defeat I continued reading your post. And inadvertently in the next stinking sentence you gave me the answer! 😆 🤣 😂 Thank you for that! I can now sleep! BTW...just noticed Kenny G hit the top 40 on R and R at the turn of the millennium with "Auld Lang Syde". Was that during a time when AT was not using R and R? If they were using R and R, Sandstorm would be the second instrumental to hit in that decade.
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