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Post by dukelightning on May 26, 2022 14:01:11 GMT -5
I would have suggested a rewrite of the story eliminating the reference to there being no top 40 hits by Dutch artists since 1981. As big a hit as "Twilight Zone" was, it seems misleading to be saying that Golden Earring had not hit the top 40 since 1974. Had I heard this show at the time, I would have fired off a letter informing CT40 of this. Personally I think it makes CT40 less credible to be saying such things. Or more accurately the R&R CHR chart less credible. Of course with the popularity of Casey, CT40 had nothing to worry about in the then ongoing battle with AT40 for supremacy. So they could thumb their nose at people like me. It is what it is!
And I am not sure where I got the idea that Bizarre Inc. did not hit CT40 or AT40 with that hit which I just heard as part of the 5/29/93 AT40 that I am listening to. Was hoping for a tidbit from Shadoe to add to the discussion but all he said was that it was a #1 dance hit. There is something about this hit's performance on CT40 and AT40 that got my attention. This, it debuted on CT40 on 3/13/93 and then debuted on AT40 on 5/22/93. That's a 10 week gap between debuting on the 2 shows. Got to be close to the record and a head scratcher at that. Of course one show is using a monitored chart whereas the other is not in 1993.
Before getting into this show, I am going to post what Casey said in one of those generic promos for the 7/13/91 CT40 which was guest hosted. He said, "You know pop music is always looking for the next big thing. After 20 years of counting down the top 40 hits in the USA, we've seen a lot of big things. Like the rise of rap and the first whiff of funk. We saw disco become techno and old style turn into new jack swing. And we rolled through all kinds of rock...metal rock, pop rock, light rock, hard rock and more rock. As for 20 years from now, we don't know what the big thing will be. But there's one thing we do know. Whatever it is, you'll hear it right here on CT40." One of his better generic promos IMO. Of course neither he nor CT40 would be exist as countdown host or countdown show then but that was a rhetorical statement anyway (about 2011).
Speaking of 20 years ago reminds me of something else in that show. Mark Elliott told a story of how Jim Morrison's parents had a falling out with him well before his death that was 20 years earlier (on 7/3/71, one of the musician death dates along with Elvis, John Lennon and Frank Sinatra that I remember). (Sinatra because it was 2 days before my mom's death). This was not assuaged by his passing. But when they learned of how his gravesite at a famous cemetery in Paris became engulfed by litter and graffiti, they went to see it for the first time, cleaning it up. Mark then said that the next song was by a band from neighboring Germany. It was the Scorpions and lead singer Klaus 'Mina' with "Wind of Change. So just like Casey in the recent 1984 show in the 80s series, he mispronounced his last name.
On to the 1993 AT40 and Shadoe played the unplugged version of "Mr. Wendal". Did not know that Whitney's mom sang backup on Chaka Khan's original version of "I'm Every Woman". Shadoe mentions something I already knew that "7" is the shortest top 40 song title in the rock era. Too bad Prince did not change his name to a symbol a couple years earlier. That 2 character combined artist name and song title would be the record and an unbeatable one at that! Jeremy Jordan has his first 2 hits back to back and he is the first artist since Gale Storm in the 50s to do that.
Tell me, what's the point of a flashback that only goes back one year?! Ah, I think it's this...Shadoe loves En Vogue. They were at #1. Can't fault him for liking them.
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Post by Mike on May 26, 2022 15:11:29 GMT -5
And I am not sure where I got the idea that Bizarre Inc. did not hit CT40 or AT40 with that hit which I just heard as part of the 5/29/93 AT40 that I am listening to. Was hoping for a tidbit from Shadoe to add to the discussion but all he said was that it was a #1 dance hit. There is something about this hit's performance on CT40 and AT40 that got my attention. This, it debuted on CT40 on 3/13/93 and then debuted on AT40 on 5/22/93. That's a 10 week gap between debuting on the 2 shows. Got to be close to the record and a head scratcher at that. Of course one show is using a monitored chart whereas the other is not in 1993. It also had one of the...shall we say, bizarre, runs within the top 40 of the Radio Monitor in 1993, which straddled both countdown runs. It first cracked the top 40 there on 2/27, and went like this: 37-40-40-off-36-38-37-31-30-37-30-27-28-28-23-recurrent Its last three weeks overlapped with its first three weeks on AT40, while the week it stepped out for a week was its second week at #39 on CT40. And, yes, it did go recurrent off the Monitor right from its #23 peak - their rule was still below #20/older than 20 weeks on the entire 75-position chart then, not changing until a month and a half later (the week after it fell off the Mainstream chart-using AT40, in fact).
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Post by dukelightning on May 26, 2022 16:00:19 GMT -5
Where does the Radio Monitor chart come into AT40, if at all? I am guessing it is not the chart used for this 5/29/93 show because that song is at #39 and I don't see 39 in that chart run. Was this the chart used in 1992? Regardless, that chart looks like it is a more accurate reflection of the song's popularity than either the chart used for this show or the R&R CHR chart.
Shadoe answers a question about the artist with the most #1 hits since 1980. Tied for third with 9 are Madonna and George Michael, Whitney had 10 and MJ had the most with 11. All but Madonna were in this show. None of them would hit #1 again in this run of AT40 however. Then he played a montage of the 11 top 20 hits Duran Duran had to this point. That would include their first 10 top 40 hits since they all made it into the top 20 plus "I Don't Want Your Love". Then he mentioned "Ordinary World" being a 6 week #1 hit at 31 this week and said "Come Undone" at #5 was headed to the top as well. Ah, he jinxed them there. That stalled out at #2! This week's new #1 hit blocked them out..."That's the Way Love Goes". Shadoe says that she breaks a third place tie among female solo artists with Diana and Mariah with her 6th #1, behind only the aforementioned Madonna and Whitney. Of course Mariah will have something to say about this, a lot in fact. "Dreamlover" will tie it back up again and prevent "If" from getting there. Then she will score again with "Hero" to take the third place lead for good.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on May 26, 2022 16:21:56 GMT -5
Radio Monitor was the chart AT40 used from 11/30/91 to the end of 1992.
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Post by woolebull on May 26, 2022 17:07:18 GMT -5
Listening to CT 5/28/94 and Elton debuted with, "Can You Feel The Love Tonight". Flash forwarding to 2022: if Elton and Dua hold where they were last week, he will be at #39 exactly 28 years later. That's just wild.
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Post by freakyflybry on May 27, 2022 0:14:58 GMT -5
In memory of Andy Fletcher of Depeche Mode... Casey's Top 40 from June 2, 1990. "Enjoy The Silence" was at #24 on this chart.
He joins Shock G of Digital Underground, Melvin Edmonds of After 7 and Marie Fredriksson of Roxette in the hit music heaven.
This show has a rarity - Casey played a clip of Michel'le's unique speaking voice, explaining it.
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Post by dukelightning on May 27, 2022 13:40:01 GMT -5
[quote Jeremy Jordan has his first 2 hits back to back and he is the first artist since Gale Storm in the 50s to do that.
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This is a mistake spoken by Shadoe Stevens and maybe a big one at that. On this week's 80s show, Crowded House had their first 2 hits back to back in the countdown. And I can think of another artist whose first 2 hits were back to back. A band of 4 guys from Liverpool had their first 2 hits back to back in 1964. The Beatles' first 2 hits were "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "She Loves You" and they were at #1 and #2, respectively. Now those were not their first 2 chart hits so maybe that is what Shadoe was referring to when he said that about Jeremy Jordan. However, those 2 Crowded House hits in the 5/30/87 show are indeed their first 2 chart hits.
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Post by freakyflybry on May 28, 2022 12:40:39 GMT -5
*checks 1986 charts and hopes my memory holds up* I guess my memory wasn't the greatest after all. Thought Falco did it, but not quite. May 17, 1986, he had "Rock Me Amadeus" at #36 and "Vienna Calling" at #38. d**n you, John Mellencamp, for getting in the way!
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Post by dukelightning on May 28, 2022 13:40:54 GMT -5
Going back not 34 years to this weekend's special that a lot of you are hearing(heard that one previously and once will be enough for the special that is in the running with the top hits of the 70s as the worst tabulated special ever done. Not to include Bryan Adams, Sheena Easton nor Pat Benatar, neither of which came anywhere near the top 40 before the 80s is an absolute joke!). But 32 years to the CT40 top dance hits of the 80s Memorial Day weekend special. And Sheena not only makes it onto this special but she makes it with my fave song by her, "The Lover In Me", better than a couple other hits Casey mentioned "Sugar Walls" and "You Got the Look". Also have my fave George Michael song is in it and the long version at that of "Everything She Wants". Another long version played was "Let's Dance" which unlike Everything, was never previously played on AT/CT40 IIRC. Same thing happened in the only other dance hit special done in AT/CT40 history, the top 40 disco hits in 1979 for LTD's "Back in Love Again". These 2 specials cover all but 6 months of time starting in mid 1974. That 6 month period is the second half of 1979. The top dance hits of those 6 months would have to be "Bad Girls", "Good Times", "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough", "Rise" and "Dim All the Lights".
Actually there is a larger gap of time between those specials. Because the earliest hits of this special are from the 1983. The early 80s which had few dance hits to begin with, don't have any in this special halfway through it. And just past that point at #19 is the first such song, "I Can't Go For That". Hit #1 in 1981 as Casey said. A true statement as it topped the R&R CHR chart on the 12/26/81 chart, a month before it hit the top on the Hot 100. And it was still on top even beyond that on the R&R chart, logging 6 weeks at #1. Yet another long version. Several of the songs have been long versions. Oh to eliminate those silly dedications and have the regular shows filled with long versions too and no edited songs.
Counting "I Can't Go For That" as a 1982 hit, the first and only 1981 hit is "Celebration", leaving 1980 unrepresented in this special. Until "Upside Down" in the top 10 that is. So that's one each from 1980, 81 and 82.
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Post by dukelightning on May 30, 2022 8:00:45 GMT -5
Yesterday I heard a show which had 'famous show' written about it in the file. It was the CT40 from 7/23/94 guest hosted by David Perry. But I found nothing about it that was famous. Which is a comment that would apply to every show Perry ever did. The only thing that had a chance at being famous or more aptly termed, infamous, was a story he told in connection with Seal's "Prayer For the Dying". He mentioned prayers by famous people like Buddha and Christopher Columbus that were the last words spoken by them. It would have been a sad prophesy of sorts had someone in this countdown been dying but I am not aware of any. The only other comments I have about this show is that it started with a song from a movie I either completely forgot about or did not know of it even then. Shai had a hit from Beverly Hills Cop III. This was the only hit from it and a medium hit at that. The soundtrack reached #158 on the album chart, this after the soundtrack from Beverly Hills Cop went to #1 and the sequel's soundtrack went to #8. No wonder I forgot or never knew about that movie! And the highlight of the show would have to be the quintet of divas played consecutively starting with the last song of the third hour. Only one requires a last name and she started the sequence...Toni Braxton, Janet, Madonna, Mariah and Whitney(an R&D for her btw). With Celine Dion maybe having other ideas, those would have to be the top 5 divas of the mid-90s.
Today is the AT40 from 7/6/02. And we have another movie that is part of a trilogy represented in the countdown. This time it is Men in Black. The second movie has Will Smith once again doing the honors and after reaching #5 with the theme from Men in Black, he only reached #23 with "Black Suits Comin'". The hit from Men in Black III was not by Smith nor did it peak lower as Pitbull reached #14 with "Back in Time" a decade later. Got an odd situation with hits dropping off or debuting/redebuting. Enrique Iglesias re-debuts with "Don't Turn Off the Lights" at #34. First of all, that is rather high for a re-debut. Secondly, it returns after only one week off while his "Escape" drops out. So it appears that stations stopped playing the latter song as much and decided to resume playing the former song as a result.
Casey tells of how Elvis' estate allowed a song of his to be remixed for the first time. It was "A Little Less Conversation" and it was in conjunction with the World Cup being held that summer. It was released in the UK and in the process gave Elvis another #1 hit there which broke a tie he was in with the Beatles for most #1 hits. It was his 18th.
It's the middle of summer and there is a lot of sun in this show. Seven and the Sun debut at 38, 'Caught in the Sun" is at 33 and the most well known of these 'suns' is "Soak Up the Sun" at 19. Right after Sheryl, Casey makes a mistake when he says that Canadian band Default will be in their homeland on tour in the provinces of Calgary and Alberta. Calgary is not a province but a city in Alberta!
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on May 30, 2022 15:32:46 GMT -5
Yesterday I heard a show which had 'famous show' written about it in the file. It was the CT40 from 7/23/94 guest hosted by David Perry. But I found nothing about it that was famous. Which is a comment that would apply to every show Perry ever did. The only thing that had a chance at being famous or more aptly termed, infamous... The one infamous part of that show was in Hour 3, where David Perry introduced himself as Casey Kasem! 😂 (Maybe the fault goes to the writers?)
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Post by Mike on May 30, 2022 15:42:22 GMT -5
Yesterday I heard a show which had 'famous show' written about it in the file. It was the CT40 from 7/23/94 guest hosted by David Perry. But I found nothing about it that was famous. Was that the week where, when IDing himself at one point during the show, said, "I'm Casey Kasem"? Said that he was Casey rather than filling in. Got an odd situation with hits dropping off or debuting/redebuting. Enrique Iglesias re-debuts with "Don't Turn Off the Lights" at #34. First of all, that is rather high for a re-debut. Secondly, it returns after only one week off while his "Escape" drops out. So it appears that stations stopped playing the latter song as much and decided to resume playing the former song as a result. "Escape" went recurrent that week - on a "recurrent-less" chart, it would have been #38. (While "Don't Turn Off the Lights" would not yet have reached the Top 40 even once.) While "Don't Turn Off the Lights" wasn't exactly a fast spin-gainer, the previous week it was pushed out of the countdown by debuts from Pink and Kylie Minogue. ("Pushed out" as in it dropped to #41 despite gaining spins/having a bullet; Pink and Kylie gained more spins than he did.)
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Post by dukelightning on May 30, 2022 15:56:04 GMT -5
Mike, yes he did just that. Saw Countdown's post and went back to this show. Took a wild guess as to where this happened and as soon as the file I clicked on starting playing, he said it. Right before playing "Wild Night". Thought I would have fish around for a few minutes to find it! So that show was infamous.
The other show I heard was of the famous variety. It is the first show in which rappers are at #1 and #2. Eminem rose to #1 while Nelly rose to #2, to replace eventually replace Eminem at #1. These are the 4th and 5th rappers to hit #1 on AT/CT40 with the first 2 occurring in 1990 courtesy of MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice followed by Marky Mark in 1991.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jun 1, 2022 5:35:56 GMT -5
Slowly playing catch-up on my marathons...up to AT40 from 11/7/1981, and CT40 from 8/7/1993. 1981 in the car, 1993 at work.
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Post by dukelightning on Jun 6, 2022 11:50:26 GMT -5
Got Ryan Seacrest at the mic on this show. No not a show from 2004 and beyond. This is the third of 4 shows he guest hosted, the AT40 from 9/6/03. According to my records, he guest hosted one show each in July, August, Sept and Oct. 2003 before taking over in 2004. This show has one debut and one re-debut and the former is a great song "Baby Boy" for Beyonce and Sean Paul who has his own solo hit, "Like Glue" in the countdown. Beyonce will also be heard from again with her former #1 hit "Crazy in Love", that one with Jay-Z. The re-debut came in a notch higher than that debut, at #34(second show I have heard recently with a re-debut at that position). That one is "Headstrong" by Trapt.
Ryan alludes to his hosting of American Idol a few times including when he plays Kelly Clarkson's "Low", saying that he should know that song. Except for sounding somewhat robotic at times, Ryan is doing a good job. Wonder if these guest hostings are an audition for the host job or if he already had it nailed down.
The original "The Boys of Summer" was not a summer hit but the Ataris remake is followed by the biggest mover and one of my faves in this show, "My Love is Like...Wo" for one of the 4 women in the "Lady Marmalade" remake a couple years earlier, Mya. Biggest mover, yes but only moves 28 to 22 at that.
Btw Larry Morgan reads the brief credits after Ryan finishes the bulk of them.
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