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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on May 16, 2022 3:40:11 GMT -5
Once we get to the AT40 2.0 era, guest-hosted shows didn't have any promos. At least they're not there in my copies. No, the practice of not having guest hosts do promos was in place for Casey's second run. For example: charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/1998-0711.pdf (see page 4) Ah, just as I suspected...but the 12/5/1998 show tells otherwise. My copy doesn't have them; maybe the source audio was bad. All the available others I looked at, however, confirm no promos.
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Post by Mike on May 16, 2022 11:22:56 GMT -5
Ah, just as I suspected...but the 12/5/1998 show tells otherwise. My copy doesn't have them; maybe the source audio was bad. I'd say that was either an error on their part, or that week may have in fact been intended for Casey to be there only for it to turn out that a guest host was needed. (Not sure that's likely, just that that's the only other thing I can think of besides error.) (On another note: I'm guessing your copy of 12/5 has the America's Top Hits? Mine does, I mention it because the cue sheet is missing that page.)
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on May 17, 2022 6:51:36 GMT -5
Ah, just as I suspected...but the 12/5/1998 show tells otherwise. My copy doesn't have them; maybe the source audio was bad. I'd say that was either an error on their part, or that week may have in fact been intended for Casey to be there only for it to turn out that a guest host was needed. (Not sure that's likely, just that that's the only other thing I can think of besides error.) (On another note: I'm guessing your copy of 12/5 has the America's Top Hits? Mine does, I mention it because the cue sheet is missing that page.) Yes, I have the ATHs from that show. Hopefully more cue sheets from that era surface. Still a lot of holes to fill from that timeframe.
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Post by woolebull on May 17, 2022 11:50:22 GMT -5
Listening to CT 40 from 5/15/93, and I found something I don't think I had ever heard on AT or CT. Before the number 33 song, "Love U More" by Sunscreem, Casey gives a fascinating history on sunscreen. I had no idea that sunscreen wasn't a thing really until after World War II! What was really interesting is that Casey in his history lesson started talking about red petrolatum and how the name eventually would be known as "Coppertone". And wouldn't you know it? A couple of segments later was a commercial for...Coppertone . Well played CT 40...well played.
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Post by dukelightning on May 17, 2022 12:20:04 GMT -5
Heard that show and posted about that story about 3 weeks ago IIRC. Yeah it is hard to imagine that there was no such product until the 1940s. No wonder the term 'redneck' came into being as there was no way for farmers in the south to avoid getting those sunburns. I also heard a show recently where Casey talked about that term in connection with the band "Rednex". Would have been a 1995 show as "Cottoneye Joe" was a hit then.
I think I am hearing the first, maybe second 1993 show since that 5/15/93 show. It is a couple months further to the 7/24/93 CT40. Have come across 2 songs that I had forgotten about. First was a comeback hit for Steve Miller. Had forgotten that he had any hits post-"Abracadabra". Did not get very far with "Wide River", peaking at 33. Then after playing Jodeci's live cover of "Lately", the new #1 R&B hit(glad they brought this song back, the original by Stevie Wonder is one of his greatest that did not hit the top 40), Casey said the second of three live songs in the countdown was from the Freddie Mercury tribute concert that gave rise to "Somebody to Love" earlier in the year. Did not realize there was another hit for George Michael and Queen. It's what appears to be a Spinners-like "Working My Way Back to You/Forgive Me Girl"..."Cupid/I've Loved You For a Long Time" medley of a song and a cover, "Killer/Papa Was a Rolling Stone". Of course Queen had a song called "Killer Queen" but I could not decipher any resemblance to that song. Not impressed with either song in that medley but it does mean I made a mistake the other day when I said that there were 7 1972 #1 hits that were remade into top 40 hits. This makes it 8 such songs.
A couple rap hits that were much bigger on the Hot 100. Onyx' "Slam" went platinum and reached #4 on that chart. Definite one hit wonder there as they had 6 other singles released. Average peak of those 6 hits....98! And Dr. Dre had "Dre Day" which went gold and hit #8 on the Hot 100. Features a vocal from Jewell. No not that Jewel! She spells her name with just the one 'l'. Is it Progressive that is running those commercials with Tag Team in them? "Whoomp There it is" makes them a big one hit wonder.
Kudos to Stone Temple Pilots for turning down Aerosmith's offer to be the opening band on their tour. Wanted their fans not to have pay high prices to see them.
12th top 10 for Duran Duran according to Casey with "Come Undone". They gain a top 10 with the R&R chart as "Save a Prayer" squeezed in.
The Proclaimers sound a lot better than their one hit wonder status makes them out to be.
Some great remakes in this show in addition to "Lately". Rod's "Have I told You Lately" is edged out by Taylor Dayne's cover of "Can't Get Enough of Your love" as my fave.
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Post by Mike on May 17, 2022 16:55:08 GMT -5
What was really interesting is that Casey in his history lesson started talking about red petrolatum and how the name eventually would be known as "Coppertone". And wouldn't you know it? A couple of segments later was a commercial for...Coppertone . Well played CT 40...well played. 2/8/03 has a sequence just like that - Casey talks about how Missy Elliott "worked it" to lose 50 pounds (her current hit being called "Work It"), and right after that song in the commercials...was a weight loss ad.
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Post by freakyflybry on May 20, 2022 0:28:50 GMT -5
In memory of Vangelis... AT40 from May 8, 1982, the only week at #1 for "Chariots Of Fire".
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Post by woolebull on May 21, 2022 16:28:55 GMT -5
Heard that show and posted about that story about 3 weeks ago IIRC. I apologize! I have just started commenting on this thread, and so I missed your words. Now that I have finished the show, I would like to expand a little more past the Coppertone story. I have listened to AT/CT shows from 7/470 to 5/21/2022. Some are great, some are meh. However, the CT 5/15/93 show will go down as one of my favorite ever. Every story was amazing: the invention of sunscreen, the transparency on the lyrics of "Informer" by Snow, Prince "retiring" and Freddie Mercury's shopping habits...all top notch stories. And the music slayed me. Dr. Dre, Naughty By Nature, Tasmin Archer, Queen and George Michael alone is worth a listen. Having Boy George and Duran Duran in almost the same spots they were on the 5/21/83 slot was amazing. Janet and Michael in the top 5 was wild. And Joey Lawrence and Jeremy Jordan on the show, for me, took me back to 1993 in a pinpoint way that I don't think could happen for me in many years. The best thing of all: A Casey tease at #1 that wasn't accurate. As he was teasing PM Dawn at #1, he gave some facts out about it being the third number one song that sampled other top 40 hits. It would take me today listening to 5/18/74 to realize there was an error in the stats he was giving (I will post on the regular AT 40 thread in a bit about that). All of that together made it quite possibly the most fun show I have ever listened to. And that is saying a ton for me to say that. So well done, and just a fun show to listen to. One of the best ever.
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Post by dukelightning on May 23, 2022 10:47:03 GMT -5
woolebull, that was a great show indeed. Good factoid about Boy George and Duran Duran, 2 artists that I always grouped together as Culture Club and Duran Duran were the bands leading the synth revolution of the mid 80s. I don't remember what Casey said that you mentioned about PM Dawn. All I remember is that he said "Looking Through Patient Eyes" was the first #1 hit to sample a #1 hit, that being "Father Figure". That true or false? woolebull, I was in the mountains over the weekend and while passing through on Saturday, 100.3 said there was a Paul McCartney concert at Wake Forest that night. Now I see that a lot of fans sat in traffic for hours and missed half or more of the concert. Hope you were not one of those fans!
I have gone exactly 3 months into the future for the date of the show I am listening to now, the AT40 from 8/23/03. Almost did not go far enough to hear "My Love is Like...Wo" in the countdown. Thought this was more of a mid summer hit than late summer/fall. It debuted on this show and Casey mentioned how it was another in the long line of 'love is' songs. Mentioned "Love is a Battlefield", "Love is Strange", "Love is Thicker Than Water", "Love is Like Oxygen" among a few others. This song is on a youtube mix that I have which youtube created of videos that I listened to a lot. It's the second song on it with the first being "Baby Come Over" by Samantha Mumba. These 2 videos have a commonality in that neither feature the same song that was predominantly played on AT40. In this case, there is some rapping and male vocals interspersed in the song that was played on this show which are not in that video(which btw was nominated for 2 MTV Video awards with Mya constantly changing outfits making for an incredible vibe IMO). Looking into this further, I find out that there were 2 remixes done. Not sure if the song played on AT40 was the first or second remix but it is one of them. As with "Baby Come Over", I prefer the song in the video to what was played on AT40. (I realize that with Baby, the preferred version was eventually played).
Jewel says "Intuition" was made to make you feel young, carefree and passionate. Well said and my fave song by her. Casey talked about 50 Cent's reaction to the Get Rich or Die Tryin' CD selling 825,000 copies its first week out and a similar number the second week. He went crazy realizing that all of the available copies were sold those first 2 weeks. That is a revealing statement if it is true that 825,000 copies were available for sale that week. And that a similar number were made available for sale just a week later. I have been following music for decades but don't get much data of that nature. It had sold 5 million copies to this point according to Casey. Both "21 Questions" and "P.I.M.P." are in the show.
When Casey said the #1 song from 25 years ago was "Three Times a Lady", I thought he was referring to the R&R chart because while that was #1 for the whole month of August 1978, its last week at #1 on AT40 was 8/19/78. Then later he said the #1 song from 15 years ago was "Roll With It". But its last week at #1 on the R&R chart was 8/13/88 while it stayed on top until 8/20 on AT40. So he has to be referring to AT40 in these statements. Like that since I feel if Casey says the #1 song from xx years ago on AT40 was such and such, it should be what really was #1 on AT40 then. Speaking of the Commodores, Casey said that Fabulous' "Into You" sampled the Commodores song "Zoom" which is the title track from their 1977 album. Upon reading the wikipedia entry, I found out that this song is based on a Tamia 1998 song "So Into You" which itself samples another Commodores song "Say Yeah". That is off of their next album which includes the aforementioned "Three Times a Lady" on it. Interesting. Next #1 mention of this sort was of 5 years ago and AT40 was around and using the R&R chart so he can't mess this one up. It was "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing".
Casey admits that he made a mistake the previous week when he said that Chingy's latest CD was called Disturbing the Peace. Said that was the name of record company and that the CD is called Jackpot. "Right Thurr" is another one of those songs I am familiar with as a result of the R&B throwback station here.
Uncle Kracker approached recording "Drift Away" with great trepidation. He had been playing the song in concert and got great crowd reactions. When it was suggested that he record the song on his next CD, he was reluctant. He did not want to ruin a great song before thinking that bringing in the man that recorded it to help sing it this time would be the answer. It was and it sits at #1 on the AC chart for a 10th week as Casey said. Btw the charts mentioned in the #1s segment were alternative, urban and rock. Never mention country anymore but if they did, Casey could conceivably mention 5 different charts in this segment.
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Post by Mike on May 23, 2022 15:59:34 GMT -5
When Casey said the #1 song from 25 years ago was "Three Times a Lady", I thought he was referring to the R&R chart because while that was #1 for the whole month of August 1978, its last week at #1 on AT40 was 8/19/78. Then later he said the #1 song from 15 years ago was "Roll With It". But its last week at #1 on the R&R chart was 8/13/88 while it stayed on top until 8/20 on AT40. So he has to be referring to AT40 in these statements. Like that since I feel if Casey says the #1 song from xx years ago on AT40 was such and such, it should be what really was #1 on AT40 then. I think it was starting in 2001 that his mentions of X Years Ago This Week #1s would refer to actual AT40 data where applicable (that being prior to 1989 and the start of CT40). Or at least that's the earliest I've noticed that he stuck to that. I say that as, in this week's 1998 show, there will be another past #1 mention that had to have come from actual AT40 data as it's a song that did not reach #1 in R&R. But then by July 4, he would switch to strictly using R&R data for these through 2000. Btw the charts mentioned in the #1s segment were alternative, urban and rock. Never mention country anymore but if they did, Casey could conceivably mention 5 different charts in this segment. Country #1 mentions in AT40 (as opposed to the AT20s) seemed to come and go, somewhat at random - recently I heard the 5/17 show, and he read the Country #1 that week ("She's My Kind of Rain" by Tim McGraw).
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Post by dukelightning on May 24, 2022 15:16:51 GMT -5
You have to wonder what possessed them to first change their policy in July 1998 and then to change it again in 2000/1. Today it is the CT40 from 8/2/97. Getting right to what I just heard before I forget the details. Casey teased what the British magazine Mojo tabbed as the greatest single of all time. I knew the answer right away. It was the Beach Boys' "Good Vibrations". 100 British rock musicians and critics voted with Casey mentioning "When Doves Cry" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit" also vetting many votes. Casey has told the story of Vibrations many times over the years going back to the 70s but it was recorded in 17 recording sessions spread out over 6 months in 4 studios. At the time, it was the costliest single ever recorded. He played a clip of it.
This is a 1997 countdown but it sounds at times like a 1977 countdown. I counted 5 songs edited down to 3 minutes or less with the shortest at around 2:15. I don't even have to watch the clock to know a song was edited! Another commonality with 1977 is a song by Stevie Wonder. He does a duet with Babyface in his first appearance in the top 40 since not 1977, but 1987. Btw, I think MJ is the only artist that appeared on the first ever AT40 whose last appearance on CT/AT40 is later than Stevie's. Or did Sir Paul get an appearance in the last few years? Anyway MJ is the latest while Casey was hosting.
Said in the last post that "Intuition" is my fave Jewel tune. The only debut on this show is "Foolish Games". That is a great song too with a totally different vibe of course. Casey told a story of how she was so poverty stricken that she slept in her VW bus and washed her hair at a nearby Denny's. Said that her newfound success then was hard to believe.
Heard a hit spending its 4th week in a row at #37..."Rhythm of Love" by DJ Company. Common song title there but it is not a cover of any other hit. Can't remember any hit spending that many weeks at such a low position as that. And it moved up the next week! Another oddity is having a girl band and a boy band back to back, not once but twice. Spice Girls' "Say You'll Be There" was at 17 followed by Hanson's "Where's the Love". Then the Girls "2 Become 1" at 11 was followed by Hanson's "Mmmbop". Become would be my fave by far of those 4 hits.
Had another R&D that did not get played on CT/AT40..."Remember Me This Way" by Jordan Hill. Casey said it was a top 10 AC hit in 1995, peaked at 80 on the Hot 100. 10,000 Maniacs had a single peak even lower on the Hot 100. I mention that because they have a hit in this show which I had forgotten, in the process forgetting that they had a hit after Natalie Merchant left in August 1993. And that is when "Few & Far Between" became the first CD-only single to make the Hot 100. Found that out not because of Casey but when I opened up the Joel Whitburn book to see when Merchant left the group. Their 1997 hit is "More Than This" which Casey said was based on a song by Roxy Music. This show is chock full of factoids I was not aware of. Another one is that Shawn Colvin sang backup on Suzanne Vega's "Luka". She had moved from South Carolina to Greenwich Village in NY and met Suzanne there. Struck up a friendship leading to not only that backup singing on her hit but went on her tour then and sang backup many times on it.
A factoid I learned a couple months ago was that "Return of the Mack" samples the Tom Tom Club's "Genius of Love". One of my faves in this show is one I still cannot hear the Genius sampling in. Whereas in Mariah's "Fantasy" and Latto's "Big Energy", you can't miss it. Don't have to look anything up to note that the biggest hit sampled in this show is "Every Breath You Take" in Puff Daddy's "I'll Be Missing You", a 2 million seller as Casey noted. So I am not surprised to see it logging 11 weeks including this one on the Hot 100 at #1. The song at #2 which could not get past it...the #1 hit on this show. Rhymes with witch!!
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Post by Mike on May 24, 2022 16:36:40 GMT -5
Btw, I think MJ is the only artist that appeared on the first ever AT40 whose last appearance on CT/AT40 is later than Stevie's. Or did Sir Paul get an appearance in the last few years? Anyway MJ is the latest while Casey was hosting. Among acts while Casey was hosting, MJ would be the latest-appearing living artist. Elvis would spend a posthumous week in August 2002 with "A Little Less Conversation", six months after MJ's last living appearance with "Butterflies". Count all appearances (I.E. post-Casey), and the dynamic changes. The latest living appearance would indeed be Sir Paul, on "FourFiveSeconds" (with Rihanna and Kanye West, if you can believe that) going to #6 at the end of March 2015. Counting posthumous appearances, it goes back to MJ, though with a big disclaimer: Drake's "Don't Matter to Me" went to #27 in December 2018 - the song features previously un-used vocals from MJ (taken from the same 1983 recording session that spawned the beginnings of 2014's "Love Never Felt So Good"), albeit heavily Auto-Tuned. A factoid I learned a couple months ago was that "Return of the Mack" samples the Tom Tom Club's "Genius of Love". One of my faves in this show is one I still cannot hear the Genius sampling in. Here's another one for you regarding that same song. It concerns the female vocal you hear briefly on the bridge - the woman who supplies it had been to the Top 40 once before, though you probably won't recognize her from her voice alone. Listen to this: youtu.be/dPGAYhH7IwI?t=76
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Post by Shadoe Fan on May 25, 2022 15:39:33 GMT -5
Had another R&D that did not get played on CT/AT40..."Remember Me This Way" by Jordan Hill. Casey said it was a top 10 AC hit in 1995, peaked at 80 on the Hot 100. "Remember" did crack CT40, peaking at #36 in July 1995.
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Post by dukelightning on May 25, 2022 16:22:46 GMT -5
Ah, thanks for the reminder. Since Casey always seems to mention hitting big on the AC chart when a R&D/LDD does not hit the CHR top 40, I thought that was the case with Remember, in addition to not recognizing the song. Mike, good catch with Angie Brown singing on "Return of the Mack". I did recognize that song by Bizarre. In fact, I knew it so well that I am wondering how could that be seeing as it is not played on radio stations nor did it make CT/AT40. Or at least I don't think it did. Let's hope I did not make that same mistake.
Listening to the 7/13/91 CT40 guest hosted by Mark Elliott. He said "How Can I Ease the Pain" is a former #1 on the R&B/black chart. Makes her the second white artist to do that in the 90s. Lisa Stansfield scored a pair of #1 R&B hits in 1990. Mark mentioned how while there is an Elvis Presley street in Memphis and streets named for all of the Beatles in Liverpool, there was a town in Holland that all of its streets named after rock artists. One of which was named for Golden Earring who had a hit with "Radar Love" in 1974 as he said. He ended the story by saying that they had another artist that they would need a street after because for the first time since 1981 and Stars on 45, there was a Dutch artist in the top 40. And that was Candy Dulfer on the instrumental from a Dutch movie, "Lily Was Here". This is a place where you wonder if they should revert to the Hot 100 again as they do when gving out chart date from pre-October 1973. Because both Golden Earring and Stars on hit the top 40 on the Hot 100 since 1974 and 1981, respectively while missing the R&R CHR chart entirely. Except that when they had those second top 40 hits, the R&R chart was only a top 30 chart. I would be willing to bet all the tea in China that Golden Earring would have hit the top 40 had R&R had that many positions with "Twilight Zone". So maybe they should be taking the Hot 100 into account in these odd situations.
"Rush Rush" becomes the first 5 week #1 hit of the 90s on CT40. Paula's reign atop that category will be short lived. At #11 in only its second week is "Everything I Do". Bryan will rack up 6 weeks on top with that one.
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Post by Mike on May 25, 2022 18:04:48 GMT -5
Ah, thanks for the reminder. Since Casey always seems to mention hitting big on the AC chart when a R&D/LDD does not hit the CHR top 40, I thought that was the case with Remember, in addition to not recognizing the song. Mike, good catch with Angie Brown singing on "Return of the Mack". I did recognize that song by Bizarre. In fact, I knew it so well that I am wondering how could that be seeing as it is not played on radio stations nor did it make CT/AT40. Or at least I don't think it did. Let's hope I did not make that same mistake. I overlooked Jordan Hill making it onto CT40 (probably because it didn't go very high), but she didn't make it onto Billboard's Mainstream chart. Bizarre, Inc., on the other hand, did appear both places - spending just two weeks at #39 on CT40, and then reaching #33 on AT40 a couple of months after that. If that was the mistake you were hoping not to make then I'm sorry to disappoint you. Listening to the 7/13/91 CT40 guest hosted by Mark Elliott. He said "How Can I Ease the Pain" is a former #1 on the R&B/black chart. Makes her the second white artist to do that in the 90s. Eep, you're 0-for-2. Lisa Fischer is NOT white: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Fischer#/media/File:Lisa_Fischer_with_mic.jpg(I will say that neither the single cover nor that of its parent album are really helpful - the single cover is black-and-white, and it looks like they applied a skin-lightening color treatment for the So Intense album cover. Hence why I linked the picture I did.) Mark mentioned how while there is an Elvis Presley street in Memphis and streets named for all of the Beatles in Liverpool, there was a town in Holland that all of its streets named after rock artists. One of which was named for Golden Earring who had a hit with "Radar Love" in 1974 as he said. He ended the story by saying that they had another artist that they would need a street after because for the first time since 1981 and Stars on 45, there was a Dutch artist in the top 40. And that was Candy Dulfer on the instrumental from a Dutch movie, "Lily Was Here". This is a place where you wonder if they should revert to the Hot 100 again as they do when gving out chart date from pre-October 1973. Because both Golden Earring and Stars on hit the top 40 on the Hot 100 since 1974 and 1981, respectively while missing the R&R CHR chart entirely. Except that when they had those second top 40 hits, the R&R chart was only a top 30 chart. I would be willing to bet all the tea in China that Golden Earring would have hit the top 40 had R&R had that many positions with "Twilight Zone". So maybe they should be taking the Hot 100 into account in these odd situations. Referencing any chart other than R&R (at least, from October 1973 onward) was NOT going to happen under CT40, if for no other reason than the fact that Westwood One not only created and produced CT40, they also owned R&R at this point. I forget when they assumed ownership, but I want to say it was sometime during the 80s - like maybe somewhere from 1986-88. And this would remain the case until late 1993, when - in need of capital - WW1 off-loaded R&R to Westinghouse Credit Corporation. So, referencing any other chart during the timeframe of R&R's existence? Forget it.
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