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Post by woolebull on Nov 29, 2013 17:26:13 GMT -5
It was on MTV just about constantly. I even remember a short version airing, kinda like Smooth Criminal had... MTV may have had exclusive rights to it for a certain length of time, which would explain why adam31 didn't get to see it. Agree that MTV hyped it for all it was worth. adam31 is correct. I had to go over to a friend's house to see it because I didn't have MTV. I'm pretty sure I never saw it on "Night Tracks" or "Friday Night Videos". |
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Post by SFGuy on Nov 29, 2013 21:05:23 GMT -5
MTV may have had exclusive rights to it for a certain length of time, which would explain why adam31 didn't get to see it. Agree that MTV hyped it for all it was worth. adam31 is correct. I had to go over to a friend's house to see it because I didn't have MTV. I'm pretty sure I never saw it on "Night Tracks" or "Friday Night Videos". I didn't have MTV (or cable) at the time. I remember buying the videocassette for like 13 bucks or something like that. I think I still have it somewhere (not that I need it anymore since it's on You Tube). |
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Post by bigal on Nov 29, 2013 23:04:30 GMT -5
another example of chart manipulation was when all 4 Beatles was on the top40 for the first time, which shouldnt have happened, since WHATEVER GETS YOU THROUGH THE NIGHT by Lennon on its way down, week before was at #40, yet then that week was at #40 again, conveniently while another Beatle debut, thus making history.
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Post by pgfromwp on Nov 30, 2013 7:06:25 GMT -5
another example of chart manipulation was when all 4 Beatles was on the top40 for the first time, which shouldnt have happened, since WHATEVER GETS YOU THROUGH THE NIGHT by Lennon on its way down, week before was at #40, yet then that week was at #40 again, conveniently while another Beatle debut, thus making history. Believe that was the 12/14/74 chart week, when George Harrison's "Dark Horse" cracked the top 40.  |
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Post by dukelightning on Nov 30, 2013 7:56:41 GMT -5
^Yes it was. On the 11/30/74 show, Casey said there might be a Beatles reunion in the intro to Ringo's song debuting. Said there were 3 Beatles in the top 40 and the 4th, George was at #53 and that the next week, all 4 could be in the top 40 with solo hits for the first time. George only made it to 43 on 12/7. But Casey may have brought this fix on himself by calling attention to it like he did. As mentioned previously, they all did appear in the top 40 on 1/11/75 sans the manipulation.
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Post by beegee3 on Nov 30, 2013 12:54:36 GMT -5
MTV may have had exclusive rights to it for a certain length of time, which would explain why adam31 didn't get to see it. Agree that MTV hyped it for all it was worth. adam31 is correct. I had to go over to a friend's house to see it because I didn't have MTV. I'm pretty sure I never saw it on "Night Tracks" or "Friday Night Videos". I do remember seeing "Thriller" once on Friday Night Videos--it was right around Christmastime, because I remember our family finally got an Atari 2600 game console that year as well, and after opening presents that night the show came on and Thriller had it's network premiere. |
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Post by woolebull on Nov 30, 2013 17:53:12 GMT -5
adam31 is correct. I had to go over to a friend's house to see it because I didn't have MTV. I'm pretty sure I never saw it on "Night Tracks" or "Friday Night Videos". I do remember seeing "Thriller" once on Friday Night Videos--it was right around Christmastime, because I remember our family finally got an Atari 2600 game console that year as well, and after opening presents that night the show came on and Thriller had it's network premiere. That whole scene you just set up made me long for 1983. Not gonna lie. |
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Post by mga707 on Nov 30, 2013 18:46:44 GMT -5
I do remember seeing "Thriller" once on Friday Night Videos--it was right around Christmastime, because I remember our family finally got an Atari 2600 game console that year as well, and after opening presents that night the show came on and Thriller had it's network premiere. That whole scene you just set up made me long for 1983. Not gonna lie. The scene that beegee3 set up would have had to have been Christmas of 1984, as the "Thriller" video was still several months from being seen by anyone at Christmas of 1983. |
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Post by woolebull on Dec 1, 2013 22:07:29 GMT -5
That whole scene you just set up made me long for 1983. Not gonna lie. The scene that beegee3 set up would have had to have been Christmas of 1984, as the "Thriller" video was still several months from being seen by anyone at Christmas of 1983. No, it was 1983. Since the song peaked at 4 in February or March of 1984, it would be the Christmas of 1983. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_video |
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Post by beegee3 on Dec 2, 2013 0:30:19 GMT -5
I do remember seeing "Thriller" once on Friday Night Videos--it was right around Christmastime, because I remember our family finally got an Atari 2600 game console that year as well, and after opening presents that night the show came on and Thriller had it's network premiere. That whole scene you just set up made me long for 1983. Not gonna lie. I know exactly what you mean! |
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Post by jmack19 on Dec 2, 2013 1:25:31 GMT -5
Listening to last week's 1983 show and hearing Casey's announcement PYT was "leaping" into the top 10, I gotta wonder if the Billboard staff realized the historical significance of having six top tenners off of 1 album and helped it along a bit? It's top 10 stay would last only that one week before it would do a 180 down to #12 the following panel. In those days, that was very unusual chart action. I thought the same thing based on songs that peaked at #10 in prior years like: Off the Wall-Michael Jackson 12,10,10,16 She's out of My Life-Michael Jackson 11,10,10,13 But looking back over the prior few months in 1983, these chart movements showed up: Burning Down the House Talking Heads 12,9,13 China Girl David Bowie 12,10,12 She's a Beauty Tubes 14,10,16 It makes PYT movement of 13,10,12 less unusual. |
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Post by mct1 on May 11, 2014 15:27:35 GMT -5
Yes this is one of the biggest mysteries of Michael Jackson's Thriller, why was the song released in January 1984, instead of around Halloween. I've always wondered that. It still reached #4. If this song is released in the fall, it's a sure #1 hit. Just this year, the song re-entered the Billboard Hot 100 at number 42. There's been tons of speculation about why MJ and/ or Epic didn't release it, but maybe it happened because of another artist or record company. "Say, Say , Say" was released in October of 1983. Maybe they held off "Thriller" in October to give McCartney/Jackson and the single (which appeared on McCartney's "Pipes Of Peace" album)the boost it needed. McCartney had just paid the favor to Jackson less than a year before, and his duet helped to kick off the "Thriller" craze. Perhaps Epic or Columbia didn't want two massive songs going against each other. All speculation, but it would seem that one of the songs that would be hurt the most with an October '83 release of Thriller would be another MJ song, one that would be one of the biggest of his and Paul's solo career. One thing to bear in mind: Epic and Columbia were then, and still are today, under common ownership. They are both part of what was then called CBS Records, and is now called Sony Music (CBS sold its music division to Sony in 1988, and the name was changed in 1991). So the idea that there was some kind of coordination between those two record companies makes perfect sense. |
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Post by lasvegaskid on Sept 2, 2024 13:54:27 GMT -5
When did the tinkering really become obvious? Some have suggested 1974 when all solo Beatles has solo simultaneous top 40s.
To me it might have been this week in 1977 when after dropping from #1, instead of continuing down the chart Andy Gibb loitered around the top 3 enabling 'Everything to jump back to #1 on 9/17
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Post by dth1971 on Sept 3, 2024 7:14:09 GMT -5
Did Billboard tinker keeping "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty out of #1 for 7/15/1978? Casey was about to tell a Gerry story thing for that song for that AT40 week.
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Post by LC on Sept 3, 2024 7:57:07 GMT -5
Did Billboard tinker keeping "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty out of #1 for 7/15/1978? Casey was about to tell a Gerry story thing for that song that that AT40 week. Okay, who's gonna tell him the story...? |
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