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Post by doofus67 on Feb 1, 2018 2:28:12 GMT -5
Before playing the #1 song, Shadoe mentioned that the Top 8 was frozen, and gave a shout out to fifteen years earlier when the Top 14 was stuck in place. Such an important piece of AT40 history! |
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Post by doofus67 on Feb 1, 2018 7:16:19 GMT -5
On the 9/11/1993 Show, the Top 8 did not change (which was rare since it was an exclusively airplay chart). Before playing the #1 song, Shadoe mentioned that the Top 8 was frozen, and gave a shout out to fifteen years earlier when the Top 14 was stuck in place. A decent top 8. Michael and Janet Jackson both were on there, as were Madonna and Mariah Carey. It was starting to be all about the big labels. Of these top 8, three were distributed through Sony, two through Warner Bros., two through EMI, and one through PolyGram. Back in '78, there was a vast array of labels, many independent (like RSO, which had three songs on the Frozen 14). |
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Post by jlthorpe on Feb 25, 2018 8:35:28 GMT -5
The same phenomenon happened on Billboard's Adult Contemporary chart in 2008. The top 11 songs remained the same during the weeks of January 26 and February 2. This was probably because of the slow movement on the Adult Contemporary charts, though. And again in 2008, the top 13 songs were the same on February 23 and March 1. |
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Post by Michael1973 on Mar 1, 2018 21:42:40 GMT -5
On the 9/11/1993 Show, the Top 8 did not change (which was rare since it was an exclusively airplay chart). Before playing the #1 song, Shadoe mentioned that the Top 8 was frozen, and gave a shout out to fifteen years earlier when the Top 14 was stuck in place. I recently listened to a Casey's Top 40 from about a month after that which also featured a frozen top 8. |
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Post by doofus67 on Aug 17, 2018 2:38:45 GMT -5
And so, we come upon anniversary #40. Here's a refresher as to how the top of the Hot 100 stacked up for the weeks of 8/12 and 8/19/78: 1. THREE TIMES A LADY...The Commodores 2. GREASE...Frankie Valli 3. LAST DANCE...Donna Summer 4. MISS YOU...The Rolling Stones 5. HOT BLOODED...Foreigner 6. BOOGIE OOGIE OOGIE...A Taste of Honey 7. LOVE WILL FIND A WAY...Pablo Cruise 8. COPACABANA (At the Copa)...Barry Manilow 9. MAGNET AND STEEL...Walter Egan 10. AN EVERLASTING LOVE...Andy Gibb 11. HOPELESSLY DEVOTED TO YOU...Olivia Newton-John 12. LIFE'S BEEN GOOD...Joe Walsh 13. MY ANGEL BABY...Toby Beau 14. I'M NOT GONNA LET IT BOTHER ME TONIGHT...Atlanta Rhythm Section For more compelling, enthralling, and scintillating posts on this topic, I offer the following: -- Naturally, you'll want to start with the 70s thread. You all remember, I'm sure, that just last year at this time, Premiere finally got around to running the Casey countdown for that week. Scattered throughout pages 1,431, 1,432, and 1,433 are some cool notes. The highlight there, if I do say so myself, is the side-by-side comparison of the 8/19/78 charts in Billboard, Cash Box, and Record World. Also, one of our heroes on the forum, dukelightning, provides some valuable insight into how this crazy standstill happened. -- Travel back a little further, to two years ago, when SiriusXM 70s on 7 was the first outlet ever to run the 8/19/78 AT40. By this point, my fascination had morphed into a full-blown obsession. The thread called "Show you wish would be aired" is not long, but long-standing, and slowly becoming obsolete (good thing or bad?). Regardless, it's a fascinating read. I first jumped onto it in 2015, on the 37th anniversary of this chart anomaly. I explained that it's my favorite chart event of all time, and provided a link to a syndicated column by the great music trivia writer, Jerry Osborne. Seems Jerry needed a little help getting his facts straight about deep freezes on the charts. www.at40fg.proboards.com/thread/3991/show-aired?page=2-- And, of course, it won't hurt to scroll to the top of this little ol' thread, if you don't sweat a brief diversion followed by a four-and-a-half-year gap between posts. Some other observations: -- In addition to dukelightning, a few other members have come up with theories as to how the chart suddenly got gummed up like this. The most believable theory to me is that, as the Saturday Night Fever phenomenon began to run its course, there was a huge influx of new releases, and Billboard couldn't wait to push them all into the upper reaches. The first two weeks in July, no fewer than a combined 16 new songs found their way into the top 40. And of those 16, half (four each week) wound up stuck in this humongous logjam. The oddest thing is, prior to the summer of '78, there had never been a freeze deeper than the top six or seven. -- Listen to all of these records together, as I've done a couple of times now, and you'll hear a variety of styles. There's classic rock, Southern rock, satirical rock, yacht rock, top-40 movie music, the singer-songwriter thing, nostalgia, soulful schmaltz, disco rock, pure disco, soft disco, band-oriented disco, campy Latin disco, and even bubble gum blues (see below). You'll also hear a variety of beats. There's a slow blues shuffle (times three), a blues swing, a reggae sway, a waltz, some straight rock rhythms, and -- last but certainly not least -- disco thumps at various tempos. -- Whenever one of these tunes comes on the radio, I call out to no one in particular, "Frozen 14, number __!" Over the years, I've found that the number I call out most often is 4. "Miss You" gets played the most because it's held up the best. I've reacquainted myself with the seven-and-a-half-minute, "hey man, what's witchoo" version. The number I call out least often is 13. Not that "My Angel Baby" is a bad record. But taking a blues-inspired song and sticking that teeny bopper, David Cassidy-type voice on it, I just don't know... -- Lastly, allow me to nerd out, big-time. This is my 560th post on this forum. Think about it. That's 14 times 40. |
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Post by bobbo428 on Aug 17, 2018 14:03:06 GMT -5
I don't have my Billboard chart book handy, but I believe that Evelyn Champagne King's "Shame" was the highest-ranked song that showed any chart movement. Summer 1978 was one of the last truly carefree times of my life--the interlude between the difficult sophomore and junior years of high school for me. And speaking of 14, the high temperature in our area was a record-tying 86 degrees on 8/19/78, and 86 is 14 short of 100. Even the weather unwittingly saluted the frozen 14.
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Post by doofus67 on Aug 17, 2018 14:17:13 GMT -5
I don't have my Billboard chart book handy, but I believe that Evelyn Champagne King's "Shame" was the highest-ranked song that showed any chart movement. Summer 1978 was one of the last truly carefree times of my life--the interlude between the difficult sophomore and junior years of high school for me. And speaking of 14, the high temperature in our area was a record-tying 86 degrees on 8/19/78, and 86 is 14 short of 100. Even the weather unwittingly saluted the frozen 14. Nice! It's true; Evelyn moved up from #19 to #15, leapfrogging, of all things, Exile's "Kiss You All Over," a future #1! |
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Post by lasvegaskid on May 6, 2021 19:47:20 GMT -5
Just the opposite of frozen, the 4/30/83 show had 5 songs climbing 10 notches or more. Did any week have more double digit moves?
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Post by Mike on May 7, 2021 9:59:08 GMT -5
Did any week have more double digit moves? 1/19/91 had six: "Love Makes Things Happen", 40-29 "Where Does My Heart Beat Now", 36-24 "I Saw Red", 35-23 "Disappear", 31-20 "All the Man That I Need", 33-18 "I'll Give All My Love to You", 28-16 |
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Post by dth1971 on May 7, 2021 13:59:24 GMT -5
Did any week have more double digit moves? 1/19/91 had six: "Love Makes Things Happen", 40-29 "Where Does My Heart Beat Now", 36-24 "I Saw Red", 35-23 "Disappear", 31-20 "All the Man That I Need", 33-18 "I'll Give All My Love to You", 28-16 Maybe these 6 1/19/1991 double digit movers might have been boosted by post Christmas season airplay and/or sales? |
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Post by at40petebattistini on May 7, 2021 15:34:23 GMT -5
Just the opposite of frozen, the 4/30/83 show had 5 songs climbing 10 notches or more. Did any week have more double digit moves? The week of February 27, 1971, seven singles moved up in double-digit leaps: *Me And Bobby McGee – Janis Joplin (up 15, #25-#10) *Just My Imagination – The Temptations (up 13, #29-#16) *Help Me Make It Through The Night – Sammi Smith (up 12, #39-#27) *Proud Mary – Ike & Tina Turner (up 11, #32-#21) *For All We Know – Carpenters (up 10, #22-#12) *Don’t Let The Green Grass Fool You – Wilson Pickett (up 13, #33-#20) *Doesn’t Somebody Want To Be Wanted – Partridge Family (up 18, #37-#19) |
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Post by Mike on May 7, 2021 17:03:40 GMT -5
1/19/91 had six: "Love Makes Things Happen", 40-29 "Where Does My Heart Beat Now", 36-24 "I Saw Red", 35-23 "Disappear", 31-20 "All the Man That I Need", 33-18 "I'll Give All My Love to You", 28-16 Maybe these 6 1/19/1991 double digit movers might have been boosted by post Christmas season airplay and/or sales? Probably part of it, but there was definitely enough chart inertia/turnover so as to facilitate there being as many as six such movers - 1/16/88, which similarly follows a very slow 1/9, had five double-digit droppers, but the biggest upward mover was just 9 notches ("Could've Been", 14-5). |
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Post by dth1971 on May 7, 2021 19:22:45 GMT -5
Maybe these 6 1/19/1991 double digit movers might have been boosted by post Christmas season airplay and/or sales? Probably part of it, but there was definitely enough chart inertia/turnover so as to facilitate there being as many as six such movers - 1/16/88, which similarly follows a very slow 1/9, had five double-digit droppers, but the biggest upward mover was just 9 notches ("Could've Been", 14-5). 1/16/1988, of course, was Charlie Van Dyke's final episode as guest host for Casey Kasem in his 1980's AT40 career. |
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Post by lasvegaskid on May 7, 2021 22:27:12 GMT -5
Just the opposite of frozen, the 4/30/83 show had 5 songs climbing 10 notches or more. Did any week have more double digit moves? On the same chart, there was only one song holding its prior week position. Has there ever been a week w/none? |
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Post by Mike on May 7, 2021 23:19:04 GMT -5
The 8-week period in 1989 where the #1 song changed hands every single week has two: 6/10 and 7/8. Surprisingly, the same such 14-week period in 1975 has none.  It also happened seven times in 1986 alone, including three times in a single month: 3/15, 5/3, 7/5, 7/12, 7/26, 11/8, and 12/20. Yet more: 11/12/88, 1/20 and 3/3/90, 11/9/91 (the 91 being the last time it happened before the chart change). And a unique changing-of-the-host factoid: It happened the first three times the #1 song changed hands after he started hosting (8/27, 9/10, and 9/24/88), as well as the last two times the #1 song changed hands when Casey was hosting (7/9 and 7/23/88). This excludes 7/30 which Hall & Oates hosted, but in fact it did not happen that week anyway. (Incidentally, add those to 11/12 and we're up to six such weeks in just the second half of 1988.) |
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