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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 12, 2012 17:25:15 GMT -5
I have bought between 7 and 10 shows from Shannon and he is amazing and quick.
I did have a slight problem with a disc and he not only shipped it right out, offered me a free show to compensate me.
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Post by mstgator on Sept 12, 2012 19:05:25 GMT -5
iam not bad mouthing him, i just asked a question.. Your comment "Guess you guys were just lucky" made it sound as if you had had a bad experience with him...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2012 19:37:15 GMT -5
iam not bad mouthing him, i just asked a question.. Your comment "Guess you guys were just lucky" made it sound as if you had had a bad experience with him... Yeah that was my conclusion too. Honestly, I don't know what other one you draw.
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Post by unclesox on Sept 13, 2012 13:37:23 GMT -5
In January I bought five shows from him on cd. I was thoroughly pleased with everything (sound quality, quickness of delivery, communication via email, etc) that I continued ordering roughly 5-6 shows a month from him. In mid-July when I placed another order he told me of the hard drive offer. I thought it was too good to turn down so I went for it and I wasn't disappointed. Small criticism that others may take note of is that the shows on the hard drive are NOT remastered (at least, many from the 70s are not from what I've listened to so far). You can hear the vinyl album clicks and whatnot and there are occasional skips, but given the price for the amount of content received I have no complaints. I've had nothing but great experiences with Mr. Lynn and I publicly want to thank him here on this forum.
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Post by Big Red Machine on Sept 13, 2012 14:02:06 GMT -5
^You're absolutely right, UncleSox. I couldn't have said it any better. I publicly want to thank Shannon too!!! He's the very best!!
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Post by frankster on Sept 14, 2012 2:47:12 GMT -5
Same here, Shannon is simply awesome, has always been very helpful in sourcing shows I've needed and I love that he ships to us down under folk. Great guy, and I certainly have the utmost respect for him
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 14, 2012 6:32:44 GMT -5
Where remastering on the hard drive is concerned, I'd be ok with that, skips would suck but pops and such are awesome, the way music is meant to be heard!
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Post by ronnie21 on Sept 14, 2012 15:08:47 GMT -5
cant say i can say the sAME THING..
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Post by pamelajaye on Sept 14, 2012 16:13:54 GMT -5
Having been the victim of a pretty good smear campaign on an email list back in the 90s (during which no specific charges were ever mentioned, just a whole lot of negative sounding words) I just want to scream - Stop being Vague!
Obviously you have decided that you can't work this out with Mr. Lynn and therefore decided to make *us* all wonder what your particular problem is (which really is a waste of time, but I know it happens - or maybe just in groups of women. Anyway, it can't fix whatever your problem is). Do you know that that sort of thing always leaves the option of making people guess at the worst possible thing?
Put up or shut up.
(As it turned out, I didn't offer to help pay for parking - or so those who wouldn't accuse me to my face told a third party. In comparison to all I was imagining people were hating me for - this was nothing. And it also wasn't true.)
Apologies to the rest of you, but this sort of thing still gets to me, after the 2+ years of wondering what the hell I had done.
No one here has had a problem. My second hald experience says my brother didn't have a problem. What ,exactly, is yours?
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Post by tarobe on Sept 14, 2012 23:28:42 GMT -5
I don't like clicks and pops in vinyl. I don't like tape hiss or hum. They don't make music sound "vintage." They make it sound bad. Thank God for CDs mastered from original master tapes.
As for Shannon's work not being remastered...well, it is. ANYTIME an analog recording is turned into a digital one it is remastered.
That said, my experience is this:
I ordered two shows from him. The first one (July 4, 1970) and the first show I ever heard (May 29, 1976). The 1976 show is full of cracks and pops. It also sounds like it's recorded too fast (somewhat higher in pitch).
It's apparent Mr. Lynn simply made a direct transfer of the LPs. He didn't edit, remix, or add EQ, compression, echo, noise reduction, de-clicking or any other effect. What I got was what he remastered: an old, scratched up vinyl record.
Should I complain about Lynn's remastering? Nope! Sure, I would have liked to have gotten a noise free, smooth show that sounded like I remembered, but this was 2011, not 1976. We must understand this: these shows are rare (some very much so). Although hundreds of copies were pressed, many were sent back (as per order) and destroyed after their window ran out. It's a miracle that we have what we DO have.
Shannon only can remaster what he has, and the show I got undoubtedly was made from the only copy he had. I am positive that had a better copy been available, he would have used that. He doesn't alter the source, and I appreciate that. Like any good archivist, he preserves the integrity of the original. It's not his fault that it had cracks and pops. Heavy play for 30+ years contributed to that (Not to mention, Watermark used very cheap vinyl). Faster speed? Probably originally mastered that way.
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Post by jlthorpe on Sept 15, 2012 5:28:24 GMT -5
Question: Anyone know how long Shannon takes to respond to email? I sent a question about something on 9/12 and haven't heard back.
P.S. I sent the email to the shannon@charis... address on his website. Is there another one I should use?
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Post by tarobe on Sept 15, 2012 9:20:15 GMT -5
It depends on how busy he is. When I ordered, I didn't hear from him for a week or so. I e-mailed him, and he replied pretty quickly, apologized for being so busy, and said he'd get my order out immediately. True to his word, it arrived the next day. I e-mailed him with a question about a show and he replied very soon. Mr. Lynn has always been very courteous and professional. I'm sure he'll get to your message (if he got it, that is) when he can.
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Post by pamelajaye on Sept 15, 2012 12:33:01 GMT -5
I think it's amazing that these shows still exist. I wasn't even aware that they were recorded on LPs till I read Rob's book. Didn't know the charis site was Shannon's till someone mentioned it here. (I know - I didn't read it. It's not as if it didn't have an About Us staring me in the face.) It's only been the last 10 years I've even listened to music without clicks and pops - before that I had cassette tapes of my records (some of which I'd owned since I was a 6 year old) and some of my friend's records and I played them - some in the house and some in the car, cause they were more portable (the one cassette I bought and didn't copy was the one that broke in my car, of course).
Finding these still exist (yeah, they've been on XM or whatever and then on real radio for a few years maybe, but I had trouble finding a station so I gave up and forgot till my brother found you all) is as surprising as finding out that all the episodes of Dark Shadows exist. (there were 1225* of those, how many are there of these?)
I think it's cool they have been/are being (which?) remastered. I read about the special countdowns where they couldn't find good copies of the old 45s and, despite watchinging WKRP, since my visit to WRKO, I really thought DJs played all their music off "carts" and didn't use real records at all (I also thought they had no control over what they played or in what order or frequency, since Payola.)
*#1209 was the only one they could not find. It was first reconstructed from a fan's audio tape and pictures.
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Post by Shannon Lynn on Sept 15, 2012 13:25:23 GMT -5
thanks for the comments Tarobe...on 5-29-76, that is not officially remastered yet. For anyone interested, I maintain a spreadsheet that I don't mind sharing you can use as a scorecard to see what has been remastered to "final" status. just email me at charismusicgroup@aol.com I don't like clicks and pops in vinyl. I don't like tape hiss or hum. They don't make music sound "vintage." They make it sound bad. Thank God for CDs mastered from original master tapes. As for Shannon's work not being remastered...well, it is. ANYTIME an analog recording is turned into a digital one it is remastered. That said, my experience is this: I ordered two shows from him. The first one (July 4, 1970) and the first show I ever heard (May 29, 1976). The 1976 show is full of cracks and pops. It also sounds like it's recorded too fast (somewhat higher in pitch). It's apparent Mr. Lynn simply made a direct transfer of the LPs. He didn't edit, remix, or add EQ, compression, echo, noise reduction, de-clicking or any other effect. What I got was what he remastered: an old, scratched up vinyl record. Should I complain about Lynn's remastering? Nope! Sure, I would have liked to have gotten a noise free, smooth show that sounded like I remembered, but this was 2011, not 1976. We must understand this: these shows are rare (some very much so). Although hundreds of copies were pressed, many were sent back (as per order) and destroyed after their window ran out. It's a miracle that we have what we DO have. Shannon only can remaster what he has, and the show I got undoubtedly was made from the only copy he had. I am positive that had a better copy been available, he would have used that. He doesn't alter the source, and I appreciate that. Like any good archivist, he preserves the integrity of the original. It's not his fault that it had cracks and pops. Heavy play for 30+ years contributed to that (Not to mention, Watermark used very cheap vinyl). Faster speed? Probably originally mastered that way.
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Post by Shannon Lynn on Sept 15, 2012 15:18:28 GMT -5
I have no idea who you are? Please enlighten us. cant say i can say the sAME THING..
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