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Post by dukelightning on Feb 7, 2024 13:58:34 GMT -5
Thanks for posting. That sounds about right. Without those 2 huge hits ahead of it, "Let's Groove" is a #1 hit. Then it becomes a question of how many weeks. It would only need 2 weeks to outdo "Shining Star" which it certainly would have had with it being at #3 for 5 weeks(although with the starred system then, the 5th week is questionable; so 4 weeks for sure).
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Post by seminolefan on Feb 8, 2024 12:33:38 GMT -5
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 9, 2024 19:54:14 GMT -5
So Diana Ross is the most successful female artist of the rock era combining her hits with the Supremes with her solo stuff. I have Joel Whitburn's 'through' 1982 Pop Singles book. First of all, AT40 does not compute these things the way Whitburn did. That's why AT40 had the Bee Gees as the #1 act of the 70s whereas in the same book, they are #8(which I agree with but that's another topic). So this won't be a perfect synopsis. Using the formula that Whitburn spells out in the book, I can calculate the points for Diana while she was with the Supremes and adding that to her solo points gives her 5111 points. Second place goes to Connie Francis with 4224 points. So it's not even close and that margin will top 1000 points once Diana's career finishes. Next issue is whether Diana holds on to that distinction to this day. Using the 'through' 2022 Pop Singles book which came out a couple months ago that has a different formula than the 1982 book, Diana has about 4800 points all told. Puts her one notch above Mariah but just behind Madonna who has 4827 points and Taylor Swift who had 4875 points although that total has topped 5000 points by now. Of course for half of Madonna's hits and all of Taylor's hits, they are based on a chart that AT/CT40 was not using, the Hot 100. Plus Taylor is benefiting from the streaming era where it is much easier to gets songs on the charts. She took about half the time that Madonna took to wrack up over 4800 points! So it's really between Madonna and Diana for the top female artist of all time. Casey also mentioned that Barbra Streisand is the top grossing woman for films and music. No way to research that one but once again, Madonna would be the one to throw her hat in the ring to take over that distinction. All I will say about this one is that Barbra is more known for films than music and the opposite is true for Madonna.
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Post by mga707 on Feb 9, 2024 21:05:37 GMT -5
Thanks for posting. That sounds about right. Without those 2 huge hits ahead of it, "Let's Groove" is a #1 hit. Then it becomes a question of how many weeks. It would only need 2 weeks to outdo "Shining Star" which it certainly would have had with it being at #3 for 5 weeks(although with the starred system then, the 5th week is questionable; so 4 weeks for sure). Is my recollection correct from listening to The Fox Oldies' '81/'82 top 50 countdowns that "Let's Groove" did not even make the R&R top 30 weekly charts? If so, that is just bizarre.
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Post by dth1971 on Feb 9, 2024 21:16:47 GMT -5
Thanks for posting. That sounds about right. Without those 2 huge hits ahead of it, "Let's Groove" is a #1 hit. Then it becomes a question of how many weeks. It would only need 2 weeks to outdo "Shining Star" which it certainly would have had with it being at #3 for 5 weeks(although with the starred system then, the 5th week is questionable; so 4 weeks for sure). Is my recollection correct from listening to The Fox Oldies' '81/'82 top 50 countdowns that "Let's Groove" did not even make the R&R top 30 weekly charts? If so, that is just bizarre. Remember that R&R didn't expand to a Top 40 until 1983. And if you include the top 10 New and Active, that makes it 40 songs including the top 30.
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Post by laura on Feb 9, 2024 21:18:49 GMT -5
Thanks for posting. That sounds about right. Without those 2 huge hits ahead of it, "Let's Groove" is a #1 hit. Then it becomes a question of how many weeks. It would only need 2 weeks to outdo "Shining Star" which it certainly would have had with it being at #3 for 5 weeks(although with the starred system then, the 5th week is questionable; so 4 weeks for sure). Is my recollection correct from listening to The Fox Oldies' '81/'82 top 50 countdowns that "Let's Groove" did not even make the R&R top 30 weekly charts? If so, that is just bizarre. It did but I believe it peaked way lower on there than the other three charts.
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Post by michaelcasselman on Feb 9, 2024 22:48:50 GMT -5
Any stations likely to play the 1987 B show?
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Post by JMW on Feb 9, 2024 23:31:44 GMT -5
Any stations likely to play the 1987 B show? KZOY will tomorrow at 1:00 PM ET.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 10, 2024 6:54:26 GMT -5
Thanks for posting. That sounds about right. Without those 2 huge hits ahead of it, "Let's Groove" is a #1 hit. Then it becomes a question of how many weeks. It would only need 2 weeks to outdo "Shining Star" which it certainly would have had with it being at #3 for 5 weeks(although with the starred system then, the 5th week is questionable; so 4 weeks for sure). Is my recollection correct from listening to The Fox Oldies' '81/'82 top 50 countdowns that "Let's Groove" did not even make the R&R top 30 weekly charts? If so, that is just bizarre. It peaked at #13 on the R&R chart. As a matter of fact, I was doing an internship at the station that played AT40 at the time. They were not playing "Let's Groove". So I asked one of the people about it one day. The guy showed me the R&R chart which was the first time I had ever seen a R&R newspaper, never even knowing of its existence until that moment. It was at #13 so this was one of the weeks it was at its peak there as I would find out some 30 years later. Anyway, he said that they only play songs that make the top 10 of the R&R chart which blew my mind. I think this is an example of how the backlash against disco really did impact disco songs post 1979. Radio stations did not want to play disco songs regardless. Of course that attitude repeated itself several years later with rap.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Feb 10, 2024 8:32:22 GMT -5
Is my recollection correct from listening to The Fox Oldies' '81/'82 top 50 countdowns that "Let's Groove" did not even make the R&R top 30 weekly charts? If so, that is just bizarre. It peaked at #13 on the R&R chart. As a matter of fact, I was doing an internship at the station that played AT40 at the time. They were not playing "Let's Groove". So I asked one of the people about it one day. The guy showed me the R&R chart which was the first time I had ever seen a R&R newspaper, never even knowing of its existence until that moment. It was at #13 so this was one of the weeks it was at its peak there as I would find out some 30 years later. Anyway, he said that they only play songs that make the top 10 of the R&R chart which blew my mind. I think this is an example of how the backlash against disco really did impact disco songs post 1979. Radio stations did not want to play disco songs regardless. Of course that attitude repeated itself several years later with rap. Seems like Radio & Records had a R&B/Soul crossover bias. I know that Stevie Wonder's Master Blaster never made the CHR Top 30 (amazing that the song made at least the Top 15 in the big 3--BB/CB/RW). In my mind, Let's Groove is definitely a Top 10 hit from Earth, Wind & Fire (making it to #3 in BB/CB/RW).
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Post by LC on Feb 10, 2024 9:16:10 GMT -5
Hardcore chart oddity of the week: the first singles from Genesis' "Abacab" and Loverboy's "Get Lucky" both peaked at #29 ("No Reply at All," "Working for the Weekend"), and the second singles peaked at #26 ("Abacab," "When It's Over"). Both artists are back-to-back in this week's countdown.
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Post by mrjukebox on Feb 10, 2024 11:47:08 GMT -5
WFRO is also likely to air 1987 tomorrow (2/11) at 8:00 PM.
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Post by mga707 on Feb 10, 2024 12:17:37 GMT -5
Seems like Radio & Records had a R&B/Soul crossover bias. I know that Stevie Wonder's Master Blaster never made the CHR Top 30 (amazing that the song made at least the Top 15 in the big 3--BB/CB/RW). In my mind, Let's Groove is definitely a Top 10 hit from Earth, Wind & Fire (making it to #3 in BB/CB/RW). Thanks. Was confusing "Let's Groove" with "Master Blaster" from a year earlier.
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Post by Hervard on Feb 10, 2024 15:49:14 GMT -5
WFRO is also likely to air 1987 tomorrow (2/11) at 8:00 PM. Any other stations today or tomorrow, say, before 6:00pm (as I generally don't listen to the shows during the evening)?
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Post by secretman on Feb 10, 2024 16:15:39 GMT -5
WFRO is also likely to air 1987 tomorrow (2/11) at 8:00 PM. Any other stations today or tomorrow, say, before 6:00pm (as I generally don't listen to the shows during the evening)? Usually play the B option on Sundays: WFMX, 6am (tends to start before the top of the hour, say 5:55 or so). WTKU, 6am. WGRQ, 6am (geoblocked). Sometimes play the B option on Sundays: ZFKK 10am. WPNC 12pm. KXGL 7pm (geoblocked).
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