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Post by dth1971 on Aug 5, 2023 8:05:43 GMT -5
I remember being curious that Casey said nothing about leaving the show in his last broadcast. I even wrote a letter to the editor of Billboard, and it was actually printed! They also printed a reply from someone from ABC (I think her name was Susan Storms). She said ABC gave Casey the option of saying some sort of farewell, but he declined. Don't know if that's really true, but it's what they said publicly. Though we all know when the last original run Shadoe Stevens AT40 show aired in foreign countries and not the USA on January 28, 1995 there was a big farewell with Roy Rogers' "Happy Trails" to close the show.
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Post by jblues on Aug 5, 2023 8:25:44 GMT -5
Heads-up for anyone recording Casey's last original show today on WWIS--Jackson County Fair live remotes are extending the show's run time. Hour three is starting now at :08 after the top of the hour. This brings back memories of when I heard that exact show ten years ago on WWIS when they had the fair; I remember listening to the last hour on WGHN because I couldn't take it anymore. For fun, I went back quite a ways to find posts from that time: They should have Casey appearing at one of the fairs...that would increase attendance! The show is STILL on at 7:07pm ET going into #4...lots of county fair updates. It started late, of course, but usually my recording of 4 hrs, 30 minutes is enough to get it all, but not today. I can't remember everything being discussed in the segments, but during one of them they interviewed a girl that won a "Miss Jackson County Fair" pageant or some such and in another they were talking with a guy who was either nervous about being on the radio or he didn't know what he was talking about because every fourth or fifth word out of his mouth was "uh". This part below in bold gives an idea of what time the show could end today: I went on Wikipedia to discover that the Black River Falls market is rather tiny. The two WWIS stations are the only radio stations in the area. That would make sense since they are able to air weekly death notices & little league baseball games. So the Jackson County Fair must be like their Super Bowl; an event you just simply don't miss. Can't knock the station for doing their coverage. BTW, I had the patience to stick around and listen to the show to the very end at 7:45 pm. Wow, memories - been on here a long time. Thanks for the time shift
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Post by secretman on Aug 5, 2023 8:38:29 GMT -5
08-06-1988, having become an overplayed program, i was expecting for Premire to restore ALL the jingles to their proper place.
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Post by mjl677 on Aug 5, 2023 9:09:56 GMT -5
While this was Casey’s final appearance on AT40 in the 1980s, this time period sadly also saw the end of these superstars on the Top 40 for good: REO Speedwagon, Moody Blues, and Pat Benatar.
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Post by at40petebattistini on Aug 5, 2023 10:31:15 GMT -5
I remember being curious that Casey said nothing about leaving the show in his last broadcast. I even wrote a letter to the editor of Billboard, and it was actually printed! They also printed a reply from someone from ABC (I think her name was Susan Storms). She said ABC gave Casey the option of saying some sort of farewell, but he declined. Don't know if that's really true, but it's what they said publicly. I met with Casey in 1994 and asked him about not saying goodbye to listeners at the end of the 8/6/88 show. He noted, with the launch of Casey's Top 40 just a few months later, that he wasn't going anywhere and that to say goodbye might imply that his radio countdown days were over.
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Post by mga707 on Aug 5, 2023 10:58:08 GMT -5
I remember being curious that Casey said nothing about leaving the show in his last broadcast. I even wrote a letter to the editor of Billboard, and it was actually printed! They also printed a reply from someone from ABC (I think her name was Susan Storms). She said ABC gave Casey the option of saying some sort of farewell, but he declined. Don't know if that's really true, but it's what they said publicly. I met with Casey in 1994 and asked him about not saying goodbye to listeners at the end of the 8/6/88 show. He noted, with the launch of Casey's Top 40 just a few months later, that he wasn't going anywhere and that to say goodbye might imply that his radio countdown days were over. That confirms what I've always assumed was the reason for his non-'farewell' on this particular show.
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Post by LC on Aug 5, 2023 11:02:58 GMT -5
I remember being curious that Casey said nothing about leaving the show in his last broadcast. I even wrote a letter to the editor of Billboard, and it was actually printed! They also printed a reply from someone from ABC (I think her name was Susan Storms). She said ABC gave Casey the option of saying some sort of farewell, but he declined. Don't know if that's really true, but it's what they said publicly. I met with Casey in 1994 and asked him about not saying goodbye to listeners at the end of the 8/6/88 show. He noted, with the launch of Casey's Top 40 just a few months later, that he wasn't going anywhere and that to say goodbye might imply that his radio countdown days were over. Thanks, Pete. Mystery solved.
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Post by papathree on Aug 5, 2023 11:26:24 GMT -5
Quoting Casey's close from the original show of 8/6/1988: My name's Casey Kasem. Till next time, keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars.Haven't heard the Premiere version, so not sure if or how they tweaked the closing (like they did on the 6/4/1988 show). I have recordings of the Premiere rebroadcasts from 2013, 2015, 2018 and 2019. On all of them, Casey's close is as follows: My name's Casey Kasem. By the way, don't forget to catch a glimpse of your favorite stars each week as I count them down on my TV show, America's Top Ten. Til then, keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars.Did Premiere drop in the close from a different show in place of what Casey actually said in this show? They replaced the last words he ever said in his original tenure as AT40 host with something he didn't actually say that week? Why? What purpose does that possibly serve? It never would have occurred to me that the close wasn't authentic, it as makes perfect sense to me that Casey would have wanted to promote his ongoing appearances on America's Top Ten. Casey states the correct date earlier in the show outro, so at least the beginning of the show outro appears to be authentic. I checked my recordings of the Premiere rebroadcasts of Casey's last few shows before the final one, on 7/9, 7/16, and 7/23 (7/30 was guest hosted). On those recordings, Casey's close is the same as on the 8/6/88 Premiere rebroadcast, except that on those earlier shows, after "My name is Casey Kasem", he says, "Join me again next week, and we'll count down the 40 most popular hits in the U.S.A.". That sentence does not appear on 8/6. So it's looking like this: --On the 8/6 show, Casey's close was worded differently than it had been on other recent shows. Most notably, he dropped the second and third of the four sentences he usually said ("Join me again next week, and we'll count down the 40 most popular hits in the U.S.A." and "By the way, don't forget to catch a glimpse of your favorite stars each week as I count them down on my TV show, America's Top Ten."). His final sentence was also worded a little differently, starting with "Til next time" rather than "Til then", presumably because the dropping of the second sentence left no "then" to reference. --Instead of giving us what Casey actually said in his close on 8/6, Premiere replaced it with his close from one of the preceding shows, but with the third sentence edited out (presumably because it wouldn't make any sense for Casey to have said that sentence on his last show). Aside from that, Premiere gave us what Casey had said on the preceding shows, not what he said on 8/6. This includes one sentence that he didn't say at all on 8/6, and one sentence that he worded differently on 8/6. With all due respect....What the @#$*? I don't like it when Premiere tinkers with the shows like this, but I can usually at least understand what they're trying to accomplish, even if I don't like what they're doing. With this one, I am at a complete loss as to what purpose this edit could possibly serve. It has left those of us who listen to the rebroadcasts, but don't have collections of the original shows, thinking that Casey's final words on his final show were something other than what he actually said. My sense is that this show hasn't been touched in years, so this edit isn't one of the "improvements for a better listening experience" Premiere has been making over the past few years, but is the way Shannon originally mastered the show back when the Premiere rebroadcasts began. Your guess is as good as mine as to why. Casey's ACTUAL, full, complete sign-off after playing #1 was "And that's it . . . the 40 most popular records in America straight from the official Billboard chart for the week ending Aug 6, 1988. American Top 40, created by Casey Kasem and Don Bustany in conjunction with Tom Rounds and ABC-Watermark, is produced in Hollywood by ABC Watermark. Our mailing address is American Top 40, P.O. Box 2000, Hollywood, CA, zip code nine double oh two eight. Our Executive Producer is Tom Cuddy. Executive in charge of production: Rod West. With Matt Wilson, Darryl Morden, Tracy Pierson, Dana Schwarzwalter, Anne Strohecker, Allison Peppitone, Gonzalo Venecia, Michael Sullivan, Mike Williams, David Cohen, Stu Jacobs, and Don O’Connor. My name's Casey Kasem. `Til next time, keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars." That being said, I share your frustration with anyone "tinkering" with Casey's commentary on ANY show. Such revised commentary has occurred a lot in the `70s shows, and I had hoped the `80s shows would be immune, but sadly that is not the case. Premiere has their reasons I guess, but nothing justifies changing / editing what was said (or where it was said in the show) in ANY show, in my humble opinion.
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Post by BrettVW on Aug 5, 2023 15:57:18 GMT -5
After many years I figured out the deal with the differences in the final sign off. A few years ago I obtained a vinyl copy of 8/6/88 and it is the international version. On that version of the show Casey's promos for America's Top 10 were not included, so my guess is he did a different take of the closing credits on those later 80s shows.
This is what was included on the very first rebroadcast of 8/6/88 on 'AT40 Flashback'
The version of the show close currently in use by Premiere on AT40: The 80s is how the show ended for US affiliates receiving the US pressing. In the late 90s/early 2000s when these older shows weren't as obtainable, my guess is the copy used for AT40 Flashback, the transcription in Rob Durkee's book, etc., was a copy of the international version. Heck, maybe it's the same exact copy that Shannon sold me on eBay more than a decade later.
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Post by BrettVW on Aug 5, 2023 15:59:04 GMT -5
"My name's Casey Kasem. By the way, don't forget to catch a glimpse of your favorite stars each week as I count them down on my TV show, America's Top Ten. Til then, keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars." - the ending of the US version of the show
"My name's Casey Kasem. Till next time, keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars." - the ending of the international version of the show
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Post by BrettVW on Aug 5, 2023 16:02:37 GMT -5
I also have the Shannon Lynn hard drive which has the original US version of 8/6/88 from vinyl (not the Premiere or remastered version) and I can confirm the ending with the America's Top 10 tag exactly as it airs on the Premiere show this weekend, complete with vinyl pops and Charlie Van Dyke's outro promo.
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Post by mct1 on Aug 5, 2023 17:16:02 GMT -5
After many years I figured out the deal with the differences in the final sign off. A few years ago I obtained a vinyl copy of 8/6/88 and it is the international version. On that version of the show Casey's promos for America's Top 10 were not included, so my guess is he did a different take of the closing credits on those later 80s shows. This is what was included on the very first rebroadcast of 8/6/88 on 'AT40 Flashback' The version of the show close currently in use by Premiere on AT40: The 80s is how the show ended for US affiliates receiving the US pressing. In the late 90s/early 2000s when these older shows weren't as obtainable, my guess is the copy used for AT40 Flashback, the transcription in Rob Durkee's book, etc., was a copy of the international version. Heck, maybe it's the same exact copy that Shannon sold me on eBay more than a decade later. "My name's Casey Kasem. By the way, don't forget to catch a glimpse of your favorite stars each week as I count them down on my TV show, America's Top Ten. Til then, keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars." - the ending of the US version of the show "My name's Casey Kasem. Till next time, keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars." - the ending of the international version of the show I also have the Shannon Lynn hard drive which has the original US version of 8/6/88 from vinyl (not the Premiere or remastered version) and I can confirm the ending with the America's Top 10 tag exactly as it airs on the Premiere show this weekend, complete with vinyl pops and Charlie Van Dyke's outro promo. Thank you! That makes a lot more sense - I could not figure out why on earth Premiere would have made this edit. Establishing that they didn't really edit it restores a little bit of my faith in them. I didn't know there was an international version of the show in that era, although that also make sense. I'm curious as to when that started and how else it was different from the U.S. version (different (or no) network ads?). Maybe America's Top Ten wasn't widely shown outside the U.S., so Casey always omitted any reference to it from his close?
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Post by mjl677 on Aug 5, 2023 17:26:48 GMT -5
Well folks, no matter how the ending was or wasn’t omitted… They dropped the ball on this one. If plans for Casey’s Top 40 were in the works, that great. But I always felt to this day that Charlie Van Dyke should have been the successor and not Shadoe Stevens. Although I will say that I would rather have the Shadoe host this instead of Seacrest…lol Seacrest got the nod after filling in a few times for Casey on the 00’s version. Why didn’t CVD get the same treatment in 1988?
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Post by BrettVW on Aug 5, 2023 18:11:14 GMT -5
The international and US versions were (and still are) identical but for the fact that the network commercials are not included on the vinyl/CDs/files because those commercials are for US affiliates only. Other quick ad reads, sponsorships, etc. are also taken out. And in 1988 that included promos for America's Top 10.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Aug 5, 2023 18:41:34 GMT -5
I also have the Shannon Lynn hard drive which has the original US version of 8/6/88 from vinyl (not the Premiere or remastered version) and I can confirm the ending with the America's Top 10 tag exactly as it airs on the Premiere show this weekend, complete with vinyl pops and Charlie Van Dyke's outro promo. Thank you, BrettVW, for all your explanations. It clears up a lot of questions! I'll have to check my hard drive from a few years back; that might have the US version on it. I had ordered that show several months before I got the hard drive, so maybe it had been updated since. Update: It did not.
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