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Post by briguy52748 on Jun 12, 2023 21:55:45 GMT -5
In only Ken Martin can do a "Top 40 Album Artists Of All Time" special countdown using Casey bits and pieces. Someone even suggested a "Top 40 Instrumentals of the 1970's" countdown that was never considered nor done by AT40. I guess I should clarify: I think there may have been potential for a successful “Top 40 Album Artists” special in 1982, had it ranked top-selling album artists, rather than ranking the albums themselves. I still stand by a country crossover special in 1984. Far as a potential 1985 special goes, the weekend of July 6 that year marked the 30th anniversary of “Rock Around the Clock” reaching No. 1 … so a special ranking the Top 40 songs of the rock era, 1955-1985. Essentially, updating the 1972 special. (I remember the "Today" show airing teasers for a celebration of the history of rock music from around that time, so what better time for AT40 to do something.) A number of 1972-1979 and 1980s songs would have been included, probably the newest before March 1985 (the hypothetical cutoff) being "Like a Virgin" by Madonna. Brian
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Post by matt on Jun 13, 2023 15:12:03 GMT -5
Really? Now the next eligible 1981 show isn't until July 18, 1981. The last one featured was March 28, 1981. Since the first weekend of July is the 1st/2nd, it wouldn't be out of the question for Premiere to play 6/27/81 the following weekend. Maybe not super likely, but not unprecedented. For what it's worth, 6/27/81 was played in 2015 (A) and 2017 (B); 7/18/81 was played in 2016 (A), 2018 (B), and 2019 (B); and 7/25/81 was played in 2017 (A) and 2020 (B). Any one of those shows is due for a repeat, but 6/27/81 has waited the longest.
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Post by matt on Jun 13, 2023 15:26:37 GMT -5
During the 6/12/1982 countdown, Casey mentioned the staff working overtime on a special countdown of the top 40 albums of the rock era. Did anything ever come of it? In an interview with AT40 staffer Matt Wilson described in my 80s book, the album special had been abandoned once he returned from a leave of absence in 1982. Although Matt was AT40's statistician at the time, he indicated that producer/writer Don Bustany had developed a complex formula for the album special. Apparently, that included sales information which was difficult or impossible to obtain from some record companies. I made a feeble attempt to compile a Rock Era, best-selling album list a few years ago, using Billboard stats thru the end of 1981. During my research, I discovered that Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass had no less than 5 gold LPs from the 1960s, with each charting 125 weeks or longer. And soundtracks from The Sound Of Music and West Side Story lasted on the album chart approximately 200 weeks apiece. In order to have an album countdown on Top 40 stations in 1982 that didn't turn off a sizable chunk of audience, some genres (such as AC and show soundtracks) would've had to have been axed. Perhaps this type of information also contributed to giving up on the idea. Thanks Pete for the story regarding the never-aired Album special from 1982. I know I've heard/read that before, but wouldn't have remembered. I always wondered if that would've been the special originally planned for 4th of July weekend in 1982, since '82 was the first year (and only the second ever at the time) since 1971 not to feature a 4th of July special. AT40 would do a 4th of July special the following year before taking a two-year break. Then specials returned on 4th of July weekend for the remainder of Casey's first run.
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Post by trekkielo on Jun 13, 2023 19:34:53 GMT -5
Agree. Herb and the TJB were an LP chart juggernaut in the mid-'60s, with 8 of the 9 albums they released between the beginning of 1965 and mid-1968 reaching the top 10. The only one that didn't was an album of older, previously-unreleased recordings from 1963 that reached #17 in early 1966. And of those 9 top 10 albums, 5 reached #1, with a total of 32 weeks topping the chart. All of the Brass' eight top 10 LPs stayed on the chart (a 150-position chart until April 1967, when it expanded to 175 and then to 200 in May) for a minimum of 49 weeks, with four remaining for over 100 weeks, the longevity-holder being 1965's "Whipped Cream and Other Delights", iconic cover and all, lasting an amazing 185 weeks--about 3 and a half years--on the LP chart. Lastly, the group scored 11 straight Gold-certified albums between 1963 and 1969. Alpert and his band were huge album sellers in the '60s. And it was the "Other Delights" that made Herb Alpert's album cover iconic. "This is American Top 40 and right now we're about to hear an extra, it's by the recording act that holds the all-time record for most albums sold in a single year, and when I tell you the year was 1966 you're going to be tempted to think that it was The Beatles, but it wasn't, for all the millions of albums that we know The Beatles sold, it was someone else who sold the most in a single year, in the middle-60's the king of the album charts was a trumpet player from Fairfax High School in Los Angeles, the accounts from his label set the number of albums sold in '66 at 13,700,000 copies, now that's reported in The Guinness Book of World Records and I'd like to be around when somebody breaks that fantastic record, in money, it comes to more than 50 million dollars, and the man who sold all those records is, Herb Alpert, here he is with his trumpet, The Tijuana Brass and our American Top 40 Extra from 1962, Lonely Bull..." - Casey Kasem from November 13th, 1976
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Post by vince on Jun 14, 2023 1:21:38 GMT -5
Bill Carroll did a ranking of the top albums from 1963 through 1989 in his book "Ranking the Albums". He ranked all 13843 albums that made BB's Top 200 Album chart in his survey period, based on their chart performance. The Sound of Music Soundtrack came in at #1. The highest ranking rock album was Rumours by Fleetwood Mac at #2. Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass are in the top 10, as is the Doctor Zhivago Soundtrack.
If AT40 were to have done a top album show for the rock era they would have had to something like top rock albums of the rock era.
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Post by burcjm on Jun 14, 2023 1:59:09 GMT -5
Really? Now the next eligible 1981 show isn't until July 18, 1981. The last one featured was March 28, 1981. Since the first weekend of July is the 1st/2nd, it wouldn't be out of the question for Premiere to play 6/27/81 the following weekend. Maybe not super likely, but not unprecedented. For what it's worth, 6/27/81 was played in 2015 (A) and 2017 (B); 7/18/81 was played in 2016 (A), 2018 (B), and 2019 (B); and 7/25/81 was played in 2017 (A) and 2020 (B). Any one of those shows is due for a repeat, but 6/27/81 has waited the longest. I've definitely seen when the last day of a month falls on a Saturday sometimes a show from the following month airs (e.g. airing a show from February on January 31) but I can't recall the opposite ever happening. But right now as it is the earliest show from July eligible is 7/7/84 which looks like it would air the week of July 1 but 7/21/84 would be a much better choice for the third week of July having last aired as a 'B' 8 years ago and as a standalone 13 years ago. After 7/7/84, 7/13/85 is the next eligible show so that would take care of the first 2 weeks of July but would preclude 7/21/84 from being played.
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Post by Mike on Jun 14, 2023 9:11:32 GMT -5
I've definitely seen when the last day of a month falls on a Saturday sometimes a show from the following month airs (e.g. airing a show from February on January 31) but I can't recall the opposite ever happening. Actually, it did happen the last time July 1 was a Saturday (in 2017) - and fittingly, it was 6/30/84 that aired that weekend.
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Post by michaelcasselman on Jun 14, 2023 9:42:40 GMT -5
Ah, the old "Premiere never does this, except when they do" situation.
The first weekend in July is another one of those wonky timeframes (like the first couple weeks of January) where Premiere gets to bend the rules a bit due to how the 80's (and 70's, for that matter) AT40 doesn't have many shows that easily fit the normal flow of the calendar. Early January was a favorite time for Casey to take vacations after year-end shows, and here in early July most July 4th (or thereabouts) weekend shows were specials in the 80's... and as we've seen in recent years, Premiere tends to let affiliates have a wider choice of available shows to fill up programming gaps or run marathons, or even sprinkle in the occasional show from early Julys in the 1998-2000s range... or even play a bit looser with the shows-from-the-same-month "rule".
By the way... anyone have any early intel on stations running AT40 marathons for the week of the 4th?
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Post by jmack19 on Jun 14, 2023 12:47:55 GMT -5
Weekend of 6/22.... 6/25/83!! www.charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/1983-0625.pdfLast played 2015 w/extras: Hour #1: "Safety Dance" - Men Without Hats Hour #2: "Maniac" - Michael Sembello Hour #3: "Puttin' On The Ritz" - Taco Hour #4: "(Keep Feeling) Fascination" - The Human League "It's A Mistake" Men At Work was not on the Hot 100 in June but was in the Top 40 when Casey returned in July. It could be a potential optional extra replacement. Based on "Suzanne" Journey being an optional extra this weekend, "Rock'n'Roll Is King" ELO can't be ruled out.
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Post by matt on Jun 14, 2023 14:27:48 GMT -5
Since the first weekend of July is the 1st/2nd, it wouldn't be out of the question for Premiere to play 6/27/81 the following weekend. Maybe not super likely, but not unprecedented. For what it's worth, 6/27/81 was played in 2015 (A) and 2017 (B); 7/18/81 was played in 2016 (A), 2018 (B), and 2019 (B); and 7/25/81 was played in 2017 (A) and 2020 (B). Any one of those shows is due for a repeat, but 6/27/81 has waited the longest. I've definitely seen when the last day of a month falls on a Saturday sometimes a show from the following month airs (e.g. airing a show from February on January 31) but I can't recall the opposite ever happening. But right now as it is the earliest show from July eligible is 7/7/84 which looks like it would air the week of July 1 but 7/21/84 would be a much better choice for the third week of July having last aired as a 'B' 8 years ago and as a standalone 13 years ago. After 7/7/84, 7/13/85 is the next eligible show so that would take care of the first 2 weeks of July but would preclude 7/21/84 from being played. 7/21/84 is one of those that's hard to understand why they've waited so long to repeat. It was last played in 2015 as a 'B' to a 1985 show, and the only time it's been played as an 'A' was in 2010. In 2015, they had just started the A/B thing in the 80's series and since it was paired with 1985, almost nobody played it. A great show from a great time in the 80's for music, and it contained the infamous "Casey's ghost-to-ghost" split logo sung by the staff -- the only time that was ever done I believe. Every year for about the past 4 or 5 years I've thought it would be a sure thing, but alas we are still waiting to hear it again...
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Post by trekkielo on Jun 14, 2023 15:16:26 GMT -5
Weekend of 6/22.... 6/25/83!! www.charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/1983-0625.pdfLast played 2015 w/extras: Hour #1: "Safety Dance" - Men Without Hats Hour #2: "Maniac" - Michael Sembello Hour #3: "Puttin' On The Ritz" - Taco Hour #4: "(Keep Feeling) Fascination" - The Human League "It's A Mistake" Men At Work was not on the Hot 100 in June but was in the Top 40 when Casey returned in July. It could be a potential optional extra replacement. Based on "Suzanne" Journey being an optional extra this weekend, "Rock'n'Roll Is King" ELO can't be ruled out. Yeah, "Rock 'n' Roll Is King" is the highest debut from June 25th, 1983 at #57, then it also celebrates 40 years in 2023 along with its album Secret Messages by ELO!
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Post by seminolefan on Jun 15, 2023 10:30:55 GMT -5
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Post by TheOriginalArtist on Jun 16, 2023 7:32:18 GMT -5
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Post by Jessica on Jun 16, 2023 22:03:56 GMT -5
^ I remember this particular LDD. It stayed with me for years. I wondered about the fate of the other hostages and discovered it didn’t end well for others. The writer of this LDD, “Diane” was the daughter of David Jacobsen, who would be released 5 months later of that same year.
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Post by Hervard on Jun 17, 2023 8:26:11 GMT -5
I've definitely seen when the last day of a month falls on a Saturday sometimes a show from the following month airs (e.g. airing a show from February on January 31) but I can't recall the opposite ever happening. But right now as it is the earliest show from July eligible is 7/7/84 which looks like it would air the week of July 1 but 7/21/84 would be a much better choice for the third week of July having last aired as a 'B' 8 years ago and as a standalone 13 years ago. After 7/7/84, 7/13/85 is the next eligible show so that would take care of the first 2 weeks of July but would preclude 7/21/84 from being played. 7/21/84 is one of those that's hard to understand why they've waited so long to repeat. It was last played in 2015 as a 'B' to a 1985 show, and the only time it's been played as an 'A' was in 2010. In 2015, they had just started the A/B thing in the 80's series and since it was paired with 1985, almost nobody played it. A great show from a great time in the 80's for music, and it contained the infamous "Casey's ghost-to-ghost" split logo sung by the staff -- the only time that was ever done I believe. Every year for about the past 4 or 5 years I've thought it would be a sure thing, but alas we are still waiting to hear it again... Yeah, I don't think I've heard it since its original airing in 2010 - at which time, I wasn't quite as enthused, as Premiere had been 1984-happy around that time (did three shows from that year in a span of less than two months). I checked and saw that I had not posted a recycled critique or a link to the 7/21/1984 show (probably since, as you pointed out, almost nobody played it). That show, by the way, could still be played the weekend of July 22 - that is, if they don't go with the July 7, 1984 show (of course, that didn't stop them in 2010).
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