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Post by Mike on Jul 24, 2012 13:21:19 GMT -5
That version of "Do You Love Me" was in fact an updated dance remix that I am not sure was commerically available at the time. Motown was remixing much of their various Sound of Young America era masters for club DJs throughout the course of the 1980s, and this version may have been done before the original's use in Dirty Dancing. I've heard each of the three weeks following 7/23, and they all have the same "remixed" version of the song, so I'm guessing 7/16 was the last week where AT40 played the original 1962 song. As for "Rag Doll", I have to think that yes, the version in the show was essentially a "single" version. Too bad AT40 likely didn't bother to ever play the album version on a given week (that one's much better, IMO). |
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Post by JMW on Jul 24, 2012 16:04:55 GMT -5
I've heard each of the three weeks following 7/23, and they all have the same "remixed" version of the song, so I'm guessing 7/16 was the last week where AT40 played the original 1962 song. That would be correct; when I heard it on Friday, I immediately thought "this is different than what I heard on the 7/16 show." |
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Post by bandit73 on Jul 24, 2012 22:25:21 GMT -5
I remember a station around here playing a different version of "Rag Doll" that just sounded warped to me. I don't remember if this was the single or album version.
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Post by vto66 on Jul 26, 2012 17:33:19 GMT -5
There were several different edits of "Miss You." The longest was the 12-inch "disco single" (8:36). The edit on the Some Girls LP runs 4:48. The 45 was 3:31. Regarding "Miss You," on most of the AT40 shows I've heard, the 45 version was played. I do remember at least one show (the Disco special from July 1979), where the album version was played. Anyone know if this was the only AT40 where the album version was played? |
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Post by richm921 on Jul 28, 2012 20:54:14 GMT -5
The version of "When It's Love" by Van Halen played on last week's 1988 broadcast was just a complete mess. As Casey was doing the intro, we heard the unique opening of the single mix. Then the second verse was cut. Then the bridge from the album version was included! So from what I can gather, the original broadcast had the single, but Premiere edited in the album version after Casey's intro and also decided to cut the second verse out of it.
What a mess! Why don't they just transfer the whole countdowns from the original LPs? That would make so much more sense.
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Post by mct1 on Jul 28, 2012 21:13:03 GMT -5
I remember a station around here playing a different version of "Rag Doll" that just sounded warped to me. I don't remember if this was the single or album version. If you were used to only one version, the other probably would have sounded strange, either way. Until hearing the 7/23/88 show last weekend, I don't think I had ever heard the "single" version before, but it's possible that some Top 40 stations played it when the song was new. In my experience, AOR/classic rock stations have always played the album version. As far as I can tell, what we're calling the single version was only on promotional singles. It's my understanding that the commerically released single was the same as the album version. Even on those promotional releases where the single version appeared, it was generally alongside the album version (e.g., on the promotional 45, which had the album version on one side and the single version on the other), and wasn't being promoted as the one and only version to play. |
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Post by torcan on Jul 29, 2012 9:13:52 GMT -5
I remember a station around here playing a different version of "Rag Doll" that just sounded warped to me. I don't remember if this was the single or album version. If you were used to only one version, the other probably would have sounded strange, either way. Until hearing the 7/23/88 show last weekend, I don't think I had ever heard the "single" version before, but it's possible that some Top 40 stations played it when the song was new. In my experience, AOR/classic rock stations have always played the album version. As far as I can tell, what we're calling the single version was only on promotional singles. It's my understanding that the commerically released single was the same as the album version. Even on those promotional releases where the single version appeared, it was generally alongside the album version (e.g., on the promotional 45, which had the album version on one side and the single version on the other), and wasn't being promoted as the one and only version to play. That single was on Geffen Records, and that was quite common in the late '80s that they'd issue a shorter promo single to radio but the longer version commercially. Oddly enough, in the early '80s it was usually the reverse - the shorter single commercially and a short/long promo to radio. I wonder if they did that because by the late '80s, sales of 45s were on the decline. Maybe they figured they'd sell better if there were longer versions on songs on them(?) |
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Post by mct1 on Feb 17, 2013 18:56:47 GMT -5
Casey played an unusual version of Aerosmith's "Dream On" on the 2/14/76 show. As Casey alluded to in his intro to the song, "Dream On" was originally released as a single in 1973, when it appeared on Aerosmith's self-titled debut album. Neither the album nor the single were major commercial successes at that time, with the "Dream On" single reaching #59 on the Hot 100. After Aerosmith had found greater success with their 1975 Toys In The Attic album, however, their record label apparently decided to re-release "Dream On" as a single in early 1976, and it then went to #6.
The original 1973 single of "Dream On" featured a version of the song which is remixed and edited, and noticeably different from the album version. The 1976 re-release single put aside that version in favor of using the album version, although a promotional 45 sent out to radio stations had the album version (same as the contemporary commercial single) on one side, and the 1973 single version on the other. What Casey played was the 1973 single version, which AT40 probably got from the above '76-issued promotional single. This version is edited and remixed compared to the more common album version, with the most obvious difference being the presence of wordless backing vocals ("Ah-h-h-h-h"), which were probably overdubbed using studio vocalists, not anyone in the band.
I don't know if it was common for Top 40 stations to play this version in 1976; to the extent that it was, it has since receded into almost complete obscurity. In my experience, radio stations of all formats today universally play the album version, and virtually all CDs that contain this song have the album version.
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Post by bigal on Feb 17, 2013 23:16:43 GMT -5
Casey played an unusual version of Aerosmith's "Dream On" on the 2/14/76 show. As Casey alluded to in his intro to the song, "Dream On" was originally released as a single in 1973, when it appeared on Aerosmith's self-titled debut album. Neither the album nor the single were major commercial successes at that time, with the "Dream On" single reaching #59 on the Hot 100. After Aerosmith had found greater success with their 1975 Toys In The Attic album, however, their record label apparently decided to re-release "Dream On" as a single in early 1976, and it then went to #6. The original 1973 single of "Dream On" featured a version of the song which is remixed and edited, and noticeably different from the album version. The 1976 re-release single put aside that version in favor of using the album version, although a promotional 45 sent out to radio stations had the album version (same as the contemporary commercial single) on one side, and the 1973 single version on the other. What Casey played was the 1973 single version, which AT40 probably got from the above '76-issued promotional single. This version is edited and remixed compared to the more common album version, with the most obvious difference being the presence of wordless backing vocals ("Ah-h-h-h-h"), which were probably overdubbed using studio vocalists, not anyone in the band. I don't know if it was common for Top 40 stations to play this version in 1976; to the extent that it was, it has since receded into almost complete obscurity. In my experience, radio stations of all formats today universally play the album version, and virtually all CDs that contain this song have the album version. I always liked this version TBH, and its rare, and obscure now. Dont forget the "frankenstein"ing of the Sing with me chorus part after the first verse, instead of haivng it first heard after the second verse! |
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Post by Showman on Feb 18, 2013 14:56:20 GMT -5
On the 1978 show a couple of weeks back Neil Diamond's 'Desiree' was a different version to the UK hit single. Possibly different versions released in US & UK?
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Post by mstgator on Feb 18, 2013 19:06:24 GMT -5
Casey played an unusual version of Aerosmith's "Dream On" on the 2/14/76 show. As Casey alluded to in his intro to the song, "Dream On" was originally released as a single in 1973, when it appeared on Aerosmith's self-titled debut album. Neither the album nor the single were major commercial successes at that time, with the "Dream On" single reaching #59 on the Hot 100. After Aerosmith had found greater success with their 1975 Toys In The Attic album, however, their record label apparently decided to re-release "Dream On" as a single in early 1976, and it then went to #6. The original 1973 single of "Dream On" featured a version of the song which is remixed and edited, and noticeably different from the album version. The 1976 re-release single put aside that version in favor of using the album version, although a promotional 45 sent out to radio stations had the album version (same as the contemporary commercial single) on one side, and the 1973 single version on the other. What Casey played was the 1973 single version, which AT40 probably got from the above '76-issued promotional single. This version is edited and remixed compared to the more common album version, with the most obvious difference being the presence of wordless backing vocals ("Ah-h-h-h-h"), which were probably overdubbed using studio vocalists, not anyone in the band. I don't know if it was common for Top 40 stations to play this version in 1976; to the extent that it was, it has since receded into almost complete obscurity. In my experience, radio stations of all formats today universally play the album version, and virtually all CDs that contain this song have the album version. Q105 here in Tampa plays the edited version of "Dream On" (then again, they play a lot of single edits of songs that normally have their LP versions played elsewhere), |
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Post by tarobe on Feb 19, 2013 22:27:56 GMT -5
The only version I remember of "Dream On" played here in KY by Top 40 stations in 1976 was the edited version. I first heard the complete version when I bought the LP that spring.
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Post by mct1 on Mar 31, 2013 7:53:00 GMT -5
This weekend's 3/27/76 show featured the same now-uncommon 1973 commercial single/1976 promotional single version of "Dream On" discussed above. I'm guessing that AT40 played this version every week "Dream On" was on the countdown. In this era, when they were beginning to struggle to fit 40 songs in a three-hour show, I guess it made sense to go with the shortest possible version, especially if it was commonly played by Top 40 stations at the time anyway.
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Post by Showman on Mar 31, 2013 10:02:29 GMT -5
Not being familiar with the Aerosmith album I purchased 'Dream On' single in Holland in 1976. CBS 4000 timed at 3:25 (Intro 0:13) p1976. 'B' side is 'Somebody' (3:07) (Same as UK release I believe). The only version I've known and loved.
Just timed it on WWIS - 2 mins 19 Secs.
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Post by mct1 on Mar 31, 2013 21:34:56 GMT -5
I didn't notice how short it was! I wonder if that's the way it was originally broadcast in 1976, or if that's Premiere's doing. It was obvious from listening to only a short segment of it that it was the 1973 commercial single/1976 promotional single version, though, which is not only shorter than the album version but also a noticeably different mix.
That 3:25/Intro 0:13 timing matches what is printed on the label of both the 1973 U.S. commercial single and the "short version" side of the 1976 U.S. promotional single, so I'm sure it's the same version. Interesting that Holland and the U.K. apparently went with the 1973 single version when this song resurfaced in '76, while the U.S. went with the album version for the commercial release. "Somebody" was on the B-side of both the 1973 and 1976 U.S. singles.
According to Wikipedia, "Dream On" wasn't a big hit in the U.K. (the 1976 release only got to #76), where Aerosmith was apparently never very popular until the late '80s; not sure about The Netherlands.
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