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Post by Mike on Jan 16, 2012 15:56:47 GMT -5
These stations are still "missing in action":
11/11/72: KLOM. I've tracked them down to 1330 AM in Lompoc, CA, according to the 1981 and 1983 guides (they're not listed in 1982 for some reason). That's the best I've been able to do so far.
12/4/82 (and, as it happens, 1/14/84): KDRW. It slipped my mind when I posted 1/14/84 yesterday that KDRW was a station I hadn't been able to track down. I've tracked them to 1450 AM, but so far that's it. There is no 1450 AM in little Silverton today, so they could in fact have gone silent. They are NOT, however, the current KGIW, which broadcasts at the same frequency over in Alamosa - both that station and KDRW were affiliates as of 3/12/83.
11/21/87: "The Music FM" KLKT Reno, NV. Jimmy's given me the list of stations for 1/25/86 in advance, so I have a frequency - 100 on the FM. But, there was no station broadcasting close enough to there on 3/12/83, so this station must have joined after.
11/1/86: K-Lite 95FM Grants, NM. The 1982 and 1983 guides list a KYKN in Grants broadcasting at 95.3, so I'm thinking that was their frequency. I'm not convinced that they were still KYKN at the time of "K-Lite" branding, though.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jan 17, 2012 14:35:02 GMT -5
In my work with Shadoe shows, I've seen cases where the same stations are mentioned together on 2 separate shows. For example, several of the station mentions on the 12-5-92 show were the same as the 6-20-92 show. (Others were close, e.g. mentioned earlier in May or July of '92).
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Post by Mike on Jan 17, 2012 16:25:24 GMT -5
Mike, It appears that the difference between the two chart dates is just over one year. My guess is that these stations renewed their contract to broadcast AT40 in and/or around the same time. Many station on-air mentions I've researched have appeared just once a year. And the renewal is the only reason I can determine in order to justify the timing of their recognition. It's just a speculative guess on my part but I believe it has merit. Make sense? Pete, here's four stations mentioned twice within the same year: KIMN - 1/18 and 12/13/86. WYSS - 3/28 and 12/26/87. CFBC - 3/28 and 11/21/87. WMHE - 4/8 and 12/23/89. (I mistakenly thought they were WVKS on 4/8. ) Plus, KWOD (Quad 106 Sacramento) has two mentions less than a year apart - 12/23/89 and 5/12/90. These might add a new wrinkle to the "timing of mentions" theory.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jan 17, 2012 16:29:02 GMT -5
Mike, It appears that the difference between the two chart dates is just over one year. My guess is that these stations renewed their contract to broadcast AT40 in and/or around the same time. Many station on-air mentions I've researched have appeared just once a year. And the renewal is the only reason I can determine in order to justify the timing of their recognition. It's just a speculative guess on my part but I believe it has merit. Make sense? Pete, here's four stations mentioned twice within the same year: KIMN - 1/18 and 12/13/86. WYSS - 3/28 and 12/26/87. CFBC - 3/28 and 11/21/87. WMHE - 4/8 and 12/23/89. (I mistakenly thought they were WVKS on 4/8. ) Plus, KWOD (Quad 106 Sacramento) has two mentions less than a year apart - 12/23/89 and 5/12/90. These might add a new wrinkle to the "timing of mentions" theory. Here are KWOD's mentions in 1989 alone: 2-11-89, 3-4-89,4-15-89, 5-20-89, 6-24-89, 8-5-89, 10-7-89, 12-23-89
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Post by Mike on Jan 17, 2012 16:29:59 GMT -5
In my work with Shadoe shows, I've seen cases where the same stations are mentioned together on 2 separate shows. For example, several of the station mentions on the 12-5-92 show were the same as the 6-20-92 show. (Others were close, e.g. mentioned earlier in May or July of '92). There's one station that has a sort of May-July closeness coming up in this weekend's 1/25/86. Won't say which one it is yet. Quad 106 Sacramento (as I mention just above) is guilty of this too. Maybe the general rule was closer to 6 months apart? Only reason being, eventually you run out of affiliates and sooner or later have to start over. If, for example as marv has mentioned, there were only 235 stations in 1985 at the time of "We Are the World", not all of course who were affiliates, then at the rate of 11-12-13 or so per show, come 6 months' time eventually there can't be many left yet unmentioned...can there? Of course, I could just be grasping at straws here!
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Post by michaelcasselman on Jan 17, 2012 18:36:55 GMT -5
... at the rate of 11-12-13 or so per show, come 6 months' time eventually there can't be many left yet unmentioned...can there? Of course, I could just be grasping at straws here! With bigger market stations getting more frequent mentions (bimonthly/quarterly), that might work out just about right. Of course, when you live in a market somewhere in the 160's or so (Watertown, NY), the mentions became a bit more sparse.
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Post by Mike on Jan 22, 2012 16:02:07 GMT -5
Well, this weekend it's January 25, 1986. I have the January 18 show from last year, so...let's do double duty this week: Whatever happened to...? (January 18, 1986) - WHSL 97 FM Wilmington, NC - Later in the 80s, they'd become WMNX with Soft AC during the day and Smooth Jazz at night. In 1992, they flipped to Urban (R&B), which they remain today.
- WGBQ - Still an affiliate on 11/21/87, see that week.
- KQIX - Also still an affiliate on 11/21/87. I hope this isn't the beginning of another pattern...
- KAMS Mammoth Springs, AR - Now Country.
- KIMN Denver - An affiliate since at least 11/28/81, and would still be at least as of eleven months later (12/13).
- 95X WGSX Puerto Rico - Don't ask me how to spell the pronounciation of their city of license - it sounds like "Huarterray" or something like that. Wiki gives their current city of license as Bayamon - clearly not a match. They changed to Oldies in 1992. After becoming WODA "Onda 94" (Onda is the Spanish word for "wave") in 2002, they went back to Top 40, but changed again to a Reggaeton format, which they still have today.
- KJOY Stockton, CA - Since this involves a sister station callsign flip, I'm going to tell two stories here. KJOY was originally at 1280 AM, even back on 1/12/74, "all those years ago"... (OK, I'll stop. ) At 99.3 was the FM sister, KJAX. In 1989, the two flip-flopped locations, with KJOY continuing on at 99.3 even today. KJOY has a Lite Rock (basically AC) format, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's what they had even back in '74 or even '86. Meanwhile, 1280 AM is now KWSX, Stockton's News Talk.
- WLCC FM 106 - Serving the Shenandoah Valley...as well as Luray, Virginia, or at least they did back on 12/4/82.
- 96 WHYT Detroit - They employed the "Hot Hits" format seen at WCAU in Philadelphia and WBBM in Chicago, only without quite the level of success as those two. At this point, they were in the midst of a shift to "Power 96", taking on more dance- and urban-leaning music while staying Top 40 (essentially taking on music that WDRQ no longer played since they switched to AC on 4/15/85). They would drop the "Power" from their name in 1989, but from 1986 to 1991 was their ratings peak. May 1991 would spell doom, however, with the debut of modern rock at 89X, CIMX Windsor. This could be the reason for their eventual July 4, 1994 switch to alternative (calls would switch to WPLT three years after). On March 14, 2001, they would switch again, this time to Hot AC as WDVD, which they remain today.
- WEKY Richmond, KY - Now an ABC-affiliated News/Talk/Information station.
- KOFM 104 Oklahoma City - Here's an interesting one. Four-and-a-half months after this show, on June 2, 104.1 dropped the Top 40 format and became KMGL, an AC station which they still are today - and they've been one of Oklahoma City's top-rated stations ever since. In the wake of the format switch, however, the owners of 103.1 KUAL ("Quality Radio") applied for the KOFM call letters, and switched their station from "Beautiful Music" to Top 40. How did that work out for them? Well...in the early 90s, they switched to Country, which they still have today. Enough said.
New to the American Top 40 family this week: - "International Radio" WQDY Calais, ME - Now a Classic Hits station that's said to include a heavy emphasis on local Sports. They also simulcast on WALZ.
- "Good Time Broadcasting" WTBQ - They had a "Beautiful Music" format. In late 1992, they'd go silent, but returned to the air on July 1, 1994. I think they have more-or-less the same format today, though Talk is mixed in, and they only broadcast during the daytime (but notably, stream over the internet 24 hours a day - said to be the first in the entire Hudson Valley to do so, having streamed since 1999.)
- K100 Macomb, IL - WKAI, and they're still a Top 40 station today. Their website has something odd, however...they don't quite have a full schedule, but on the homepage is stated "American Top 40" - and right below it is a 20-song listing. The 20-song listing, however...links to the current week's Billboard Hot 100! Hmmm...
- Fox 105 KFFX Emporia, KS - Hot AC today.
- Hot Z95 Salt Lake City, UT - They signed on at 94.9 as AC station KLRZ, though they'd flip to Top 40 KBNG shortly after this show. That would last about a year before a few years with a New Age format. But, it'd be back to Top 40 again in 1989 as KZHT, which they remain today, though in 2004 they moved to 97.1. NOTE: KISN signs in as an affiliate at the same 97.1 frequency on 3/28/87; my guess is this was during 94.9's New Age years. KZHT, while Clear-Channel owned and essentially resembling a "Kiss FM" station (and carrying the current AT40)...doesn't quite have lineage to the former KISN.
- WBZ 1030 Boston - The United States' first commercial radio station - and they're joining the AT40 family in 1986?! At this point, they had a full service AC format, though oddly enough, they'd already begun to cut back on music even a month earlier, having added afternoon news on December 2. Gulf War coverage in January 1991 would herald an end to music entirely, with a full conversion to News/Talk. They have a 50,000-watt clear-channel signal, and today, they run all-News during the day and Talk at night. Notably, while owned by CBS, they affiliate with both CBS and ABC for news - though the majority of their programming is in fact produced in-house. Incidentally, being owned by CBS makes 70s affiliate WODS a sister.
And, by the way...remember how I mentioned back on 11/11/72 that Tom Bergeron gained a following at New Hampshire's WHEB? Well, he would leave there for Boston, appearing first on WBZ-TV and later on 1030 as well. He would remain in Boston until June 1994. Whatever happened to...? (January 25, 1986) - WRVQ - Richmond VA (Richmond's #1 Q94) - Still a Top 40 station today.
Can't absolutely prove it, but I'm betting they have AT40. They're also a 200,000-watt station. (EDIT: OK, I can prove that they do have it, thanks to a post from shadster over in the CT40 section.
- KITY - San Antonio TX (Nothing But The Hits 92.9) - They have an interesting simulcast today - their main station is 102.9 in Llano, TX, and is also heard on 101.3 in Fredricksburg and 106.1 in Burnet. They also simulcast on 95.7 KOTY in Mason. Their format is Oldies...but they're not a 70s or 80s affiliate.
- WVUV - Pago Pago American Samoa - Hot AC today. They had been deleted from the FCC database in January 2005 after a period of inactivity, but were re-assigned the WVUV call letters on May 5, 2006. There were apparently periods of inactivity between February 2006 and February 2008, however, as the station's antenna was apparently damaged and the station wasn't able to repair it. Currently they broadcast at 648 AM, but they've filed a request to move to 720; this is still pending.
- KOTZ - Kotzebue AK (Public Radio for Northwest Alaska) - Well, um...we just heard this one last week! That ID of "Public Radio for Northwest Alaska" is interesting, though - they must be a station much like Wisconsin's WDOR (5/12/90) is today, the only difference being that "The Door" isn't an NPR member like KOTZ is.
- WNCI - Columbus OH (Hit Radio) - Here's another interesting case, for a totally different reason. They were just recognized two months before, back on 11/16/85. What would explain two station recognitions so close together?
- KKBQ - Houston TX (93FM and 790AM) - They were ranked as the #2 station in all Houston just the previous fall, but they were about to go head-to-head with KRBE, which had dropped AC for Top 40 around the same time. The two would go at it for the next five years until by 1991, KKBQ had fallen as far as #13 in Houston. On September 19 that year, KKBQ would flip to Country, which they still are today. Ultimately, this would be to their benefit, as they won top Country Music Station awards at least twice during the 90s, and would return to ratings heights by 1994. One other thing - if you ever hear the term "6400 Music" in Houston, it was KKBQ that originated that term through their "93Q Live on the Cutting Edge from Club 6400" shows in 1988. These shows featured a mix of industrial, EBM, new wave, goth, synth-pop, and Hi-NRG dance.
Oh, by the way - the AM and FM station simulcast together until the late 90s, when the AM flipped to Adult Standards. That lasted until 2004, when they flipped to their current Sports Talk.
- KLKT - Incline Village NV (The Music FM FM100) - Still a member of the family on 11/21/87, but seems to be "missing in action" today.
- KCIZ - Springdale AR (KC105 The Hot FM) - KCIZ; they were also still a member of the family on 11/21/87.
- WPRO - Providence RI (92PRO-FM) - Still a member of the family as late as 5/12/90.
- WNLA - Indianaola MS (Your Music Connection) - 1380 AM/105.5 FM. The AM's now a Gospel station, and the FM's now an Urban AC station.
- WFON - Fond Du Lac WI (WFON107) - Also still a member of the family on 11/21/87; now a member of both the 70s and 80s families.
New to the American Top 40 family this week: - WFQX - Front Royal VA (The Fox 99FM) - They were Top 40 at this time, but perhaps the oncoming surgence of metal would spark their transition to Active Rock, which was in place by the early 90s. They'd go on to Classic Rock and even Hot AC, but have since returned to Active Rock.
- WWMH - Minocqua WI (Your Home In The Northwoods; 96FM) - Another Wisconsin 70s affiliate! They were apparently a mix of AC and country, yet still had the show at this time. In 1992, however, they became WMQA (now do they sound familiar? ). They were Soft AC until August 29, 2008, with a switch to Oldies. And by the way, they still do not stream the show - their site says they only stream sports games.
- KEYG - Grand Coulee WA (Key Radio) - Casey didn't specify as to an AM or FM on this station, but there's one of each with the KEYG call letters still operating in Grand Coulee today. The AM is currently Country, while the FM is Classic Hits.
Now, I have a question. I've seen it mentioned that Detroit would abruptly drop AT40 at some point. According to Wiki, WHYT had the show for much of the 80s, even when Shadoe began hosting. At what point was the show dropped?
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jan 22, 2012 16:44:58 GMT -5
^^According to my notes, WHYT was last mentioned on March 6, 1993.
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Post by Mike on Jan 22, 2012 17:12:35 GMT -5
OK...I think I must've thought AT40 moved around a couple of stations in Detroit like CT40 did. I read a couple of station threads in that section today (just for the hell of it), and saw MEF's post on Detroit stations. I guess I got the information mixed up. Thanks!
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Post by MEF on Jan 22, 2012 23:29:53 GMT -5
Here is some info on the WHYT history airing AT40 in Detroit.
In 1982, ABC took over Watermark and became ABC/Watermark. In 1982, American Top 40 moved to stations owned by ABC. Since WHYT was owned by ABC, AT40 moved to WHYT in 1982. I'm not sure of the exact date in 1982.
Casey and AT40 stayed on WHYT up to 1988. However, WHYT did not air Casey's final ABC AT40 on 8/6/88. They knew Casey would go to Westwood One. WDFX would be the new Casey station airing CT40 in Detroit starting in 1989.
WHYT aired AT40 with Shadoe from the start on 8/13/88 to 1/3/93. The final AT40 show on WHYT was the top songs of 1992 show. During the late 80s/early 90s WHYT changed from a CHR/Top 40 to an urban/rhymtic/rap station. Thus, AT40 was not fitting with WHYT's format. The rap songs in the top 40 worked, but not the slower songs for WHYT. (The direct opposite of the New York station airing AT40). WHYT in the start aired AT40 with Shadoe from 8am to Noon on Sundays, eventually by early 90s moved to a bad timeslot, Sunday 6 to 10 am.
Also, Shadoe would still in the closing credits still said "AT40 was created by Casey Kasem and Don Bustany." Since WHYT was an ABC station, they would cut off the words Casey Kasem and replaced it with a person belching. By the time the show move to the awful Sunday 6 am time slot, WHYT played the #1 Song and Shadoe would tell you the #1 song. Then WHYT would cut off and end the show. No closing credits at all. They would jump to their own countdown of their songs that fit their format.
After 1/3/93, AT40 did not return to Detroit until 12/26/99 when WKQI changed Casey's show from AT20 Hot AC to American Top 40 with Casey Kasem. It was the top 40 songs of 1999.
As a side note, WHYT dropped AT40 two weeks after WDFX (WOWF) dropped CT40 due to a format change. I was upset back then. I lost both AT40 and CT40, unless I listen to a Toledo station where reception faded in an out all the time. I remember back during the winter of 1993, writing to WW1 to tell them Casey was off the air in Detroit. Also, I wrote to WKQI, the Hot AC station. I told them Casey is not airing on any station in Detroit. I demanded them to pick it up. WKQI has no special shows airing the whole weekend. I told WKQI if you can't air CT40 due to a few rap songs, then pick up Casey's Countdown. WKQI did respond to me personally in March 1993. The PD wrote me Casey's Coundown would start on WKQI on 4/4/93. Casey stayed on WKQI until 1/4/04. Then Ryan took over. AT40 continues to air on WKQI in Detroit today.
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Post by Mike on Jan 23, 2012 14:55:01 GMT -5
Here is some info on the WHYT history airing AT40 in Detroit. In 1982, ABC took over Watermark and became ABC/Watermark. In 1982, American Top 40 moved to stations owned by ABC. Since WHYT was owned by ABC, AT40 moved to WHYT in 1982. I'm not sure of the exact date in 1982. Casey and AT40 stayed on WHYT up to 1988. However, WHYT did not air Casey's final ABC AT40 on 8/6/88. They knew Casey would go to Westwood One. WDFX would be the new Casey station airing CT40 in Detroit starting in 1989. WHYT aired AT40 with Shadoe from the start on 8/13/88 to 1/3/93. The final AT40 show on WHYT was the top songs of 1992 show. During the late 80s/early 90s WHYT changed from a CHR/Top 40 to an urban/rhymtic/rap station. Thus, AT40 was not fitting with WHYT's format. The rap songs in the top 40 worked, but not the slower songs for WHYT. (The direct opposite of the New York station airing AT40). WHYT in the start aired AT40 with Shadoe from 8am to Noon on Sundays, eventually by early 90s moved to a bad timeslot, Sunday 6 to 10 am. Also, Shadoe would still in the closing credits still said "AT40 was created by Casey Kasem and Don Bustany." Since WHYT was an ABC station, they would cut off the words Casey Kasem and replaced it with a person belching. By the time the show move to the awful Sunday 6 am time slot, WHYT played the #1 Song and Shadoe would tell you the #1 song. Then WHYT would cut off and end the show. No closing credits at all. They would jump to their own countdown of their songs that fit their format. After 1/3/93, AT40 did not return to Detroit until 12/26/99 when WKQI changed Casey's show from AT20 Hot AC to American Top 40 with Casey Kasem. It was the top 40 songs of 1999. As a side note, WHYT dropped AT40 two weeks after WDFX (WOWF) dropped CT40 due to a format change. I was upset back then. I lost both AT40 and CT40, unless I listen to a Toledo station where reception faded in an out all the time. I remember back during the winter of 1993, writing to WW1 to tell them Casey was off the air in Detroit. Also, I wrote to WKQI, the Hot AC station. I told them Casey is not airing on any station in Detroit. I demanded them to pick it up. WKQI has no special shows airing the whole weekend. I told WKQI if you can't air CT40 due to a few rap songs, then pick up Casey's Countdown. WKQI did respond to me personally in March 1993. The PD wrote me Casey's Coundown would start on WKQI on 4/4/93. Casey stayed on WKQI until 1/4/04. Then Ryan took over. AT40 continues to air on WKQI in Detroit today. I have to say, that's pretty juvenile of ABC and/or WHYT to do that to the show. Kind of makes me wonder how many other ABC-owned stations did that... Something else, too - Pete mentioned how shoddy record-keeping came to be during the later years of Shadoe's run. WHYT getting a station mention, two months after the show being off the station, just proves it.
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Post by Mike on Jan 23, 2012 14:56:15 GMT -5
Here are KWOD's mentions in 1989 alone: 2-11-89, 3-4-89,4-15-89, 5-20-89, 6-24-89, 8-5-89, 10-7-89, 12-23-89 I only just now saw this... Good lord.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jan 23, 2012 16:30:41 GMT -5
WHYT was also mentioned on 1-9-93, the first week after they dropped the show.
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Post by bandit73 on Jan 27, 2012 21:25:03 GMT -5
Record-keeping must have been bad at least as far back as 1982. Supposedly, Casey "welcomed" WYYS Cincinnati back in '82. But I'm almost certain WYYS never had AT40.
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Post by Mike on Jan 28, 2012 13:16:04 GMT -5
^ Do you know what week that was?
There's no Cincinatti station in either the '81 or the '82 listening guide (but the '82 guide was only distributed in June), but WKRQ is in the guide that accompanied 3/12/83. Maybe they just got the wrong station somehow and had it corrected shortly after?
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