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Post by mkarns on Oct 31, 2023 21:37:11 GMT -5
This week's optional extras:
November 4, 1978:
Hour #1: "The Gambler" - Kenny Rogers (#84; debuted) Hour #2: "(We're Gonna) Rock Around The Clock" - Bill Haley & His Comets (original AT40 extra) Hour #3: "Y.M.C.A." - The Village People (#68) Hour #4: "Lights" - Journey (#77)
"Rock Around the Clock" is the only extra in the original show that wasn't Archives or Long Distance Dedication. It replaces Billy Joel's "My Life" as an optional extra.
"Christmas At the Movies", an AT10 from 2005, will be the B.
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Post by jgve1952 on Nov 1, 2023 5:01:18 GMT -5
I guess we can't use last year's selections as a precedent, when it started the second weekend of November. At least we know through 12-23-23 we get a one year show and a Christmas episode.
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Post by at40petebattistini on Nov 1, 2023 10:58:17 GMT -5
I guess we can't use last year's selections as a precedent, when it started the second weekend of November. At least we know through 12-23-23 we get a one year show and a Christmas episode. For the record, Premiere began providing Christmas programs the *first* weekend of November last year. As noted by michaelcasselman, WTOJ aired the “Christmas At The Movies” special in early November 2022. And here’s another post… WXXM Rewind 92.1 FM Madison, Wisconsin is airing this AT10 show right now as WXXM starts its all Christmas music sweep this first weekend in November 2022.
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Post by matt on Nov 1, 2023 13:57:33 GMT -5
I guess we can't use last year's selections as a precedent, when it started the second weekend of November. At least we know through 12-23-23 we get a one year show and a Christmas episode. For the record, Premiere began providing Christmas programs the *first* weekend of November last year. As noted by michaelcasselman, WTOJ aired the “Christmas At The Movies” special in early November 2022. And here’s another post… WXXM Rewind 92.1 FM Madison, Wisconsin is airing this AT10 show right now as WXXM starts its all Christmas music sweep this first weekend in November 2022. IIRC, in the past it was always the second week in November for the switch to Christmas alternates and the discontinuing of B-show alternates. Maybe Xmas music on classic hits/oldies stations is starting earlier? Wouldn't surprise me if that were the case...
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Post by matt on Nov 1, 2023 14:02:20 GMT -5
This week's optional extras: November 4, 1978:Hour #1: "The Gambler" - Kenny Rogers (#84; debuted) Hour #2: "(We're Gonna) Rock Around The Clock" - Bill Haley & His Comets (original AT40 extra) Hour #3: "Y.M.C.A." - The Village People (#68) Hour #4: "Lights" - Journey (#77) "Rock Around the Clock" is the only extra in the original show that wasn't Archives or Long Distance Dedication. It replaces Billy Joel's "My Life" as an optional extra. "Christmas At the Movies", an AT10 from 2005, will be the B. I'm always curious as to how they pick things like that with the extras -- why "My Life" instead of one of the others? Particularly "Lights", which never hit the top 40. My personal preference would've been to see "Y.M.C.A." get the boot.
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Post by michaelcasselman on Nov 1, 2023 14:17:07 GMT -5
For the record, Premiere began providing Christmas programs the *first* weekend of November last year. As noted by michaelcasselman, WTOJ aired the “Christmas At The Movies” special in early November 2022. And here’s another post… IIRC, in the past it was always the second week in November for the switch to Christmas alternates and the discontinuing of B-show alternates. Maybe Xmas music on classic hits/oldies stations is starting earlier? Wouldn't surprise me if that were the case... It's the dreaded 'Christmas Creep'. For years, Black Friday used to be the demarcation point for the beginning of Christmas programming, but little by little, stations have chosen to 'Dethaw Mariah' ( as I heard someone call it) earlier in the month. Similar to the same phenomenon in retail, where stores are rushing to pull down Halloween displays and throw up the Christmas stuff, foregoing any type of Thanksgiving-themed sales in-between. I'm actually kinda glad we're getting the 1978 show early in this year's Single-Show/Christmas-B-Show rotation. As we get closer to Christmas, more and more affiliates flip to all-Christmas programming, which makes it harder to not only find a station that's playing the 'regular' classic AT40 episodes, but also ones that are likely to play 4 hour shows in their entirety.
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Post by mkarns on Nov 1, 2023 16:12:49 GMT -5
This week's optional extras: November 4, 1978:Hour #1: "The Gambler" - Kenny Rogers (#84; debuted) Hour #2: "(We're Gonna) Rock Around The Clock" - Bill Haley & His Comets (original AT40 extra) Hour #3: "Y.M.C.A." - The Village People (#68) Hour #4: "Lights" - Journey (#77) "Rock Around the Clock" is the only extra in the original show that wasn't Archives or Long Distance Dedication. It replaces Billy Joel's "My Life" as an optional extra. "Christmas At the Movies", an AT10 from 2005, will be the B. I'm always curious as to how they pick things like that with the extras -- why "My Life" instead of one of the others? Particularly "Lights", which never hit the top 40. My personal preference would've been to see "Y.M.C.A." get the boot. In this case, the second hour is the one that "Rock Around the Clock" originally appeared in, though I don't see why they don't just leave it as it was, as the song is only about two minutes (maybe three with Casey's intros). But Premiere doesn't always necessarily keep these originals-turned-optionals in their original hours; I'm thinking there was a time or two they did that with an Archives song which resulted in either two of them being played back to back or not in the order in which they originally hit #1.
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Post by jgve1952 on Nov 1, 2023 18:20:03 GMT -5
I guess we can't use last year's selections as a precedent, when it started the second weekend of November. At least we know through 12-23-23 we get a one year show and a Christmas episode. For the record, Premiere began providing Christmas programs the *first* weekend of November last year. As noted by michaelcasselman, WTOJ aired the “Christmas At The Movies” special in early November 2022. And here’s another post… WXXM Rewind 92.1 FM Madison, Wisconsin is airing this AT10 show right now as WXXM starts its all Christmas music sweep this first weekend in November 2022. According to Matt's post At40 Listing of the 70's show, last year 1971 and 1979 were featured on 11-5-22. On Page 2312 of AT40 the 70's Next Week's Show, it also shows 1971 and 1979 with optional extras. So how could there be a Christmas show, if those two years were featured (71 and 79)?
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Post by at40petebattistini on Nov 1, 2023 21:02:23 GMT -5
For the record, Premiere began providing Christmas programs the *first* weekend of November last year. As noted by michaelcasselman, WTOJ aired the “Christmas At The Movies” special in early November 2022. And here’s another post… According to Matt's post At40 Listing of the 70's show, last year 1971 and 1979 were featured on 11-5-22. On Page 2312 of AT40 the 70's Next Week's Show, it also shows 1971 and 1979 with optional extras. So how could there be a Christmas show, if those two years were featured (71 and 79)? I never said that there was one 70s show the first weekend of November 2022. The point is that Premiere began offering Christmas shows to affiliates that weekend.
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Post by kenmartin on Nov 1, 2023 22:02:59 GMT -5
Going Christmas early gives stations more time to get ratings. It's an absolute proven winner with Nielsen. Some stations can double or even triple their normal listenership during the Holiday. Plus, the Nielsen ratings period usually ends right after the first weekend in December, going early means more weeks of Christmas programming in the "book". It also gives stations an extra month to get holiday money from businesses wanting to spend on advertising. It's all about the mean green.
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Post by mga707 on Nov 1, 2023 22:55:50 GMT -5
Going Christmas early gives stations more time to get ratings. It's an absolute proven winner with Nielsen. Some stations can double or even triple their normal listenership during the Holiday. Plus, the Nielsen ratings period usually ends right after the first weekend in December, going early means more weeks of Christmas programming in the "book". It also gives stations an extra month to get holiday money from businesses wanting to spend on advertising. It's all about the mean green. I know this is true, and thus makes sense, but it still boggles my mind. Not once in my entire life have I ever thought to myself 'You know, I'd really love to hear some Christmas music on the radio'. Instant 'change the station!' for me.
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Post by mkarns on Nov 2, 2023 0:57:09 GMT -5
Going Christmas early gives stations more time to get ratings. It's an absolute proven winner with Nielsen. Some stations can double or even triple their normal listenership during the Holiday. Plus, the Nielsen ratings period usually ends right after the first weekend in December, going early means more weeks of Christmas programming in the "book". It also gives stations an extra month to get holiday money from businesses wanting to spend on advertising. It's all about the mean green. I know this is true, and thus makes sense, but it still boggles my mind. Not once in my entire life have I ever thought to myself 'You know, I'd really love to hear some Christmas music on the radio'. Instant 'change the station!' for me. I sometimes have, but not at the beginning of November. Usually not until at least Thanksgiving.
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Post by LC on Nov 2, 2023 7:48:47 GMT -5
Ah, yes. The infamous 19-notch leap for a song that stalled 7 more spots higher but should have gone Top 5....
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Post by mga707 on Nov 2, 2023 9:33:18 GMT -5
Ah, yes. The infamous 19-notch leap for a song that stalled 7 more spots higher but should have gone Top 5.... Also the final week for a "Grease" song in the 40. Wrapping up seven 'Greasy' months.
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Post by seminolefan on Nov 2, 2023 11:10:12 GMT -5
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