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Post by matt on Jun 24, 2021 9:56:44 GMT -5
This week's 1978 chart starts off with a quintet of shortfallers: Roberta Flack's "If Ever I See You Again" (#24 peak, despite being written by the man behind "You Light Up My Life") Rare Earth's "Warm Ride" (#39 peak, despite being written by the BeeGees) Jimmy "Bo" Horne's "Dance Across the Floor" (#38 peak despite being written/produced by KC) Foghat's "Stone Blue" (#36 peak) KC/Sunshine Band's remake of "It's the Same old Song" (#35 peak and one of their rare flops at the time) And 'Bo' Horne's song was a '1 and done', rare for a #38 debut. Though that happened two weeks in a row -- Chic's "Everybody Dance" debuted at #38 the previous week and fell out this week. Both songs deserved a much better chart fate IMHO. 6/24/78 began one of the stranger 3-week stretches of the first Casey AT40 era: six debut songs this week, followed by the two consecutive 8-debut weeks on 7/1/78 and 7/8/78 for a total of 22 new songs in three weeks (and ironically, Casey would not host a weekly AT40 countdown either of the 8-debut weeks). Since a few of those dropped out the following week or after two weeks during this span (including one-hit wonder Tuxedo Junction, who debuted at #32, stayed there the next week, and fell out after that), there weren't 22 songs on the 6/17/78 countdown that were gone by 7/8/78, but nevertheless a turnover in the top 40 that probably hasn't happened since.
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Post by seminolefan on Jun 24, 2021 10:16:57 GMT -5
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Post by mga707 on Jun 24, 2021 11:06:18 GMT -5
6/24/78 began one of the stranger 3-week stretches of the first Casey AT40 era: six debut songs this week, followed by the two consecutive 8-debut weeks on 7/1/78 and 7/8/78 for a total of 22 new songs in three weeks (and ironically, Casey would not host a weekly AT40 countdown either of the 8-debut weeks). Since a few of those dropped out the following week or after two weeks during this span (including one-hit wonder Tuxedo Junction, who debuted at #32, stayed there the next week, and fell out after that), there weren't 22 songs on the 6/17/78 countdown that were gone by 7/8/78, but nevertheless a turnover in the top 40 that probably hasn't happened since. Yes! Well-remember that massive 'chart churn' during that period. And if my memory serves, one of those two 8-debut weeks was a special (assume 7/1, since that first week of July was usually a 'special' countdown). When the weekly surveys resumed there were SO many new songs, nearly half of the chart.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jun 24, 2021 12:25:13 GMT -5
6/24/78 began one of the stranger 3-week stretches of the first Casey AT40 era: six debut songs this week, followed by the two consecutive 8-debut weeks on 7/1/78 and 7/8/78 for a total of 22 new songs in three weeks (and ironically, Casey would not host a weekly AT40 countdown either of the 8-debut weeks). Since a few of those dropped out the following week or after two weeks during this span (including one-hit wonder Tuxedo Junction, who debuted at #32, stayed there the next week, and fell out after that), there weren't 22 songs on the 6/17/78 countdown that were gone by 7/8/78, but nevertheless a turnover in the top 40 that probably hasn't happened since. Yes! Well-remember that massive 'chart churn' during that period. And if my memory serves, one of those two 8-debut weeks was a special (assume 7/1, since that first week of July was usually a 'special' countdown). When the weekly surveys resumed there were SO many new songs, nearly half of the chart. Your assumption is correct. 7/1 was the special, Top 40 Acts Of The 1970s (same as the 1974 special, just updated), while 7/8 was a regular show guest-hosted by Mark Elliott. Yeah, that short timespan was crazy with chart turnover.
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Post by kenmartin on Jun 25, 2021 7:44:18 GMT -5
Agree with adam31 -- if there were extras in the original show, please leave them alone (and I'm OK with them being pulled out as optionals though my preference is to leave them in their original place in the show). Now, were there too many extras in the original shows at times? If there was more than one original extra, it's too many. That's one of the main reasons I don't care for the 1970 and '71 shows -- there would be as many as four extras sometimes, which is a bit much. Same with the first several 4-hour shows in 1978-79 (before they added the top 3 recap), although those don't bother me as much because they didn't chop down countdown songs to make room for them. Ummm. I can't speak for Ken. But I think he was referring to the Premiere extras, not the features in the original broadcast. Exactly. During the first few years of the show 3 hours was too much time (imagine that) because songs were much shorter. There needed to be extra songs added to the countdown to fill the 3 hours. That changed very quickly as top 40 songs started to get longer. I have no problem with the extra songs that were in the countdown originally. It's the Premiere extras that I have issue with.
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Post by mkarns on Jun 25, 2021 9:41:40 GMT -5
Ummm. I can't speak for Ken. But I think he was referring to the Premiere extras, not the features in the original broadcast. Exactly. During the first few years of the show 3 hours was too much time (imagine that) because songs were much shorter. There needed to be extra songs added to the countdown to fill the 3 hours. That changed very quickly as top 40 songs started to get longer. I have no problem with the extra songs that were in the countdown originally. It's the Premiere extras that I have issue with. Fast forward a half century and it's not too hard to see that, as top 40/CHR songs have recently gotten shorter overall. This week's CHR AT40 has a total of 18 extras (4 of which are optionals), so it's not hard to see AT40 currently fitting into three hours without too much trimming of the countdown songs. Though I suspect if it were starting out today it might only be American Top 30 given the shrinkage of some other chart shows, such as American Country Countdown.
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Post by rgmike on Jun 26, 2021 12:28:56 GMT -5
Wondering: how many times in Casey's first 18-year stretch, did he have to answer the "how long has AT40 been on, and what was the first #1?" question (which popped up again on this week's 1978 show). He must've gotten tired of repeating those stats
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Post by papathree on Jun 26, 2021 14:13:03 GMT -5
Wondering: how many times in Casey's first 18-year stretch, did he have to answer the "how long has AT40 been on, and what was the first #1?" question (which popped up again on this week's 1978 show). He must've gotten tired of repeating those stats By my count the question (or a very close variation of it) was asked first on 4/22/72, then repeated on 5/18/74, 9/21/74, 11/27/76, and 6/24/78.
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Post by dth1971 on Jun 26, 2021 16:10:39 GMT -5
Wondering: how many times in Casey's first 18-year stretch, did he have to answer the "how long has AT40 been on, and what was the first #1?" question (which popped up again on this week's 1978 show). He must've gotten tired of repeating those stats By my count the question (or a very close variation of it) was asked first on 4/22/72, then repeated on 5/18/74, 9/21/74, 11/27/76, and 6/24/78. And if you include Shadoe Stevens AT40, there was a question letter to Shadoe asking about the first song played on AT40 ("The End of Our Road" by Marvin Gaye) in a May 1992 episode and a July 1994 episode.
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Post by dth1971 on Jun 26, 2021 16:15:00 GMT -5
WVLI just cut in AT40: The 70's during the Rolling Stones' "Miss You" for a brief Tornado Warning bulletin for the Kankakee, Illinois area!
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Post by mrjukebox on Jun 26, 2021 17:44:58 GMT -5
Plan to hear the supersized version of 6/24/78 tomorrow morning on WTOJ.
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Post by matt on Jun 26, 2021 23:02:55 GMT -5
Ummm. I can't speak for Ken. But I think he was referring to the Premiere extras, not the features in the original broadcast. Exactly. During the first few years of the show 3 hours was too much time (imagine that) because songs were much shorter. There needed to be extra songs added to the countdown to fill the 3 hours. That changed very quickly as top 40 songs started to get longer. I have no problem with the extra songs that were in the countdown originally. It's the Premiere extras that I have issue with. Got it -- but the Premiere extras are optional right? And the assumption is that they aren't chopping countdown songs to make room for Premiere's optional extras. So shouldn't they really be inconsequential if stations choose not to air them?
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Post by mkarns on Jun 26, 2021 23:25:27 GMT -5
WPNC's schedule for next week (June 29-July 2). A combination of year end shows and specials, some of which Premiere doesn't play:
Tuesday: 6 a.m. - First Top 40 from July 4, 1970 9 a.m. - Top 40 Songs of the Rock Era 12 noon - Top 40 Disappearing Acts 3 p.m. - Top 40 Acts of the 70's (So Far) 6 p.m. - 4th of July #1's 9 p.m. - Top 40 Ladies of the Rock Era
Wednesday: 6 a.m. - Top 40 Book Of Records 10 a.m. - Superstars of the 70's 1 p.m. - Top 40 Beatles Hits 5 p.m. - Top 40 Acts of the 80's (So Far) 9 p.m. - Y2K Special
Thursday: 6 a.m. - Top 100 of 1975 2 p.m. - Top 100 of 1981 10 p.m. - Tribute Show with Kerri & Mike Kasem
Friday: 6 a.m. - Triathlon of Rock 'N Roll 10 a.m. - Top 100 of 1998 6 p.m. - Top 50 of 1977 9 p.m. - Top 50 of 1974
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Post by dth1971 on Jun 27, 2021 8:14:55 GMT -5
Though KC&SB also only hit #35 with their previous “Boogie Shoes”. However, it being on the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack ensured that many more heard it, and it’s endured in terms of recurrent play. And following the failure of #35 songs by KC&TSB group "Boogie Shoes" and "It's the Same Old Song", the next 3 KC&TSB songs failed to make the top 40 reaches, but then came in late 1979 "Please Don't Go" and it went to #1.
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Post by mitchm on Jun 27, 2021 11:07:09 GMT -5
WPNC's schedule for next week (June 29-July 2). A combination of year end shows and specials, some of which Premiere doesn't play: Tuesday: 6 a.m. - First Top 40 from July 4, 1970 70-07-049 a.m. - Top 40 Songs of the Rock Era 72-07-0112 noon - Top 40 Disappearing Acts 73-07-073 p.m. - Top 40 Acts of the 70's (So Far) 74-07-066 p.m. - 4th of July #1's 76-07-049 p.m. - Top 40 Ladies of the Rock Era 77-07-02Wednesday: 6 a.m. - Top 40 Book Of Records 80-07-0510 a.m. - Superstars of the 70's 78-07-011 p.m. - Top 40 Beatles Hits 81-07-045 p.m. - Top 40 Acts of the 80's (So Far) 87-07-049 p.m. - Y2K Special 2000-01-01Thursday: 6 a.m. - Top 100 of 1975 2 p.m. - Top 100 of 1981 10 p.m. - Tribute Show with Kerri & Mike Kasem 2014-06-21Friday: 6 a.m. - Triathlon of Rock 'N Roll 88-07-0210 a.m. - Top 100 of 1998 6 p.m. - Top 50 of 1977 9 p.m. - Top 50 of 1974 I added the original air dates for some of the shows.
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