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Post by BrettVW on Jul 13, 2015 18:39:27 GMT -5
I have heard the Shannon Lynn version of Hour 3, but was not able to catch this yesterday - I hope to hear it in the future.
That said, RCNipper & reachinforthestars, I remember when I first heard about the # 1 hits of the 70s special. My first thought was "what could this possibly sound like" - and I was (and still am) absolutely blown away by Ken Martin's work. Those shows all sound like a true AT40 end of decade special, and if I didn't have knowledge of the shows, I would never have guessed was a creation of Adobe Audition and endless hours of careful work.
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Post by mrjukebox on Jul 13, 2015 19:47:06 GMT -5
Despite the glitches,the 7/11/70 show was a treat for the ears-Thanks,Ken Martin!
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Post by kenmartin on Jul 13, 2015 19:56:12 GMT -5
Just as a quick note ... WTOJ will re-run the show one more time this upcoming weekend. It will be aired again on Monday morning at midnight (Sunday night, right after Delilah). If you didn't hear it the first time, you can perhaps catch it again this upcoming weekend.
I've also been informed that the show has been put on the schedule to air next year as part of the regular schedule and that it will be added to the iHeart AT40 channel. When, I don't know, but it will be added.
Also, the Labor Day weekend will be another Casey marathon of the #1's. I'm working on part 5 of the 80's right now and up to Billy Idol "Mony Mony".
Thanks to all for the very kind words. I'm blown away. Makes it all worth the effort.
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Post by briguy52748 on Jul 13, 2015 20:00:42 GMT -5
Also, the Labor Day weekend will be another Casey marathon of the #1's. I'm working on part 5 of the 80's right now and up to Billy Idol "Mony Mony". Thanks to all for the very kind words. I'm blown away. Makes it all worth the effort. Sounds like the show was a winner and home run blasted out of the park!!! In any case, after this special is completed, how many songs are we left with -- my guess "(I've Had) The Time Of My Life" to "Sweet Child O'Mine" (a future No. 1 song introduced by Casey on the Aug. 6, 1988 show). Brian
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Post by reachinforthestars on Jul 13, 2015 23:37:35 GMT -5
Just as a quick note ... WTOJ will re-run the show one more time this upcoming weekend. It will be aired again on Monday morning at midnight (Sunday night, right after Delilah). If you didn't hear it the first time, you can perhaps catch it again this upcoming weekend. I've also been informed that the show has been put on the schedule to air next year as part of the regular schedule and that it will be added to the iHeart AT40 channel. When, I don't know, but it will be added. Also, the Labor Day weekend will be another Casey marathon of the #1's. I'm working on part 5 of the 80's right now and up to Billy Idol "Mony Mony". Thanks to all for the very kind words. I'm blown away. Makes it all worth the effort. Awesome! I am putting the word out for this weekend's airing. Perhaps the greatest compliment anyone could ever give you is that the show has been approved to be part of the regular schedule. That is quite an honor. Looking forward to Labor Day weekend too!
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Post by dougbroda on Jul 14, 2015 6:43:45 GMT -5
I must admit to a laugh -- maybe inappropriately -- at one point in Ken Martin's Show #2. It was when Casey intro'd "Ohio" by CSNY with "This is not music to dance by." No kidding... though whether Casey had in mind the musical tempo, the tragic subject matter, or both is lost to time.
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Post by kenmartin on Jul 14, 2015 8:00:22 GMT -5
I must admit to a laugh -- maybe inappropriately -- at one point in Ken Martin's Show #2. It was when Casey intro'd "Ohio" by CSNY with "This is not music to dance by." No kidding... though whether Casey had in mind the musical tempo, the tragic subject matter, or both is lost to time. When restoring the audio for this song, I discovered that there was a production error and a skip in the audio for Ohio. Of course, all the music was replaced with new, stereo copies of songs, but it did make lining up OHIO a little trickier than usual.
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 14, 2015 13:02:42 GMT -5
I have heard the Shannon Lynn version of Hour 3, but was not able to catch this yesterday - I hope to hear it in the future. That said, RCNipper & reachinforthestars, I remember when I first heard about the # 1 hits of the 70s special. My first thought was "what could this possibly sound like" - and I was (and still am) absolutely blown away by Ken Martin's work. Those shows all sound like a true AT40 end of decade special, and if I didn't have knowledge of the shows, I would never have guessed was a creation of Adobe Audition and endless hours of careful work. Never underestimate the power of Adobe Audition!!! Cards on the table: I use Cool Edit Pro v2.1 (yes, with the rare upgrade that later became Adobe Audition 1.5!). I've re-created reverb effects that sound exactly like PAMS, Jam, Pepper-Tanner & TM Production jingle trail-outs, along with hundreds of other custom effects which are now being seen in the later Adobe CS Editions. We use those at CBS Radio for certain special effects, as they are interchangeable with those from Cool Edit Pro. For those who prefer much more complicated digital editing systems like Pro Tools, please keep in mind one thing: It's not the application, as much as it is the ingest peripherals used to get audio - specifically the sound card. I use a Digigram 222 V2 in my production PC, while my main PC has a Claro Halo sound card. The Digigram is a broadcast sound card, while the Claro Halo is a lower-end pro card. The best Sound Blaster card doesn't even come close to these, unless you want to get into 3D surround sound gaming. Of course, a high-powered CPU (Intel i7) & lots of great memory (Corsair Vengeance) is essential to any audio/video project, as they hog processor & memory. My ASUS X99 WS Mobo ain't bad, either! My custom build rig is much cheaper than the Pro Tools suite, coupled with Mac G5 - $4k versus up to $25k - and just as good. Since I only do audio production, editing & restoration, why pay for more than I need? Sure, Ken may use Adobe Audition. However, I dare anyone to tell me the difference between a massively talented user of AA/CEP 2.1, versus any professional who uses Pro Tools - simply by listening to the final product. The only limitations are in the user's "ears" and his/her creative abilities. Ken Martin gets 6 out of 5 stars (******) for both!
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 14, 2015 13:21:19 GMT -5
Absolutely amazed at Ken Martin's work. I'm a fan, not a radio pro, and I've never edited anything more than my personal stuff on my PC. That said, I was just knocked over by the edit(s) that must have been used to (properly) have Ride Captain Ride falling from its peak of #4 to #6 (which of course only happened in this one week with the missing 3rd hour). Hi, Doug... You need to listen to that line verrrrrrry carefully!!! Ken, literally, picked single words with the proper inflections to put that sentence together. I heard exactly what you heard, but Ken went through many shows to come up with that one line! If the edited sentence was "in the clear," you might hear slight edits. Thankfully, the music covered it up so well that the "untrained ear" can't hear it at all. Even I had to play it back a few times before I could piece together what Ken had done - and I've been a broadcast/production engineer for over 40 years! Genius...absolutely nothing but pure unadulterated genius (Yeah, Ken, I'm talkin' 'bout YOU)!!! ]
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 14, 2015 13:45:04 GMT -5
I must admit to a laugh -- maybe inappropriately -- at one point in Ken Martin's Show #2. It was when Casey intro'd "Ohio" by CSNY with "This is not music to dance by." No kidding... though whether Casey had in mind the musical tempo, the tragic subject matter, or both is lost to time. Hi, Doug... Having lived through May 4th, 1970, I distinctly remember the Kent State University Massacre. It was the first major national tragedy (aside from the Vietnam War, itself) of the decade. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings"Ohio," as you may already know, is a song about that fateful day. When AT-40 aired it on July 11th, 1970, it had been 2 months & 1 week since four unarmed students were killed, while nine others suffered life-long permanent injury - all at the hands of the Ohio National Guard (67 shots in 13 seconds). The only defense the students had were flowers and posters demanding an end to the Vietnam War. I'm going out on a limb, here, but... My impression is that Casey wanted to say something about this incident, forever documented by Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. The song made it to the charts as a result of CSNY writing about this incident, recording it and then sending acetates to radio stations. Many (mostly in big cities) played it to death, which caused many to buy the single. That's how "Ohio" got on the charts so quickly. If you listen to Casey's inflections as he intros the song, you can read between the lines that he is disgusted over what happened. Yet, he can't say anything about it, as it would wind up being an anti-war political statement. To do that would alienate Casey from half his audience - especially at that time, since the country was evenly split on the Vietnam War. Saying that "Ohio" was not "...music to dance by" was Casey's way of stating that (in my honest opinion) this is a serious song with an ominous message...and that you should LISTEN to it, and not do anything else. It's not a celebratory song, but one of remembrance for the four Kent State students who died at the hands of those - whose primary job was to protect them, NOT kill them! As stated, this is my own take on what Casey meant when he introduced "Ohio," since he was - in real life - an anti-war advocate. Any thoughts?
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Post by mga707 on Jul 14, 2015 14:05:13 GMT -5
I must admit to a laugh -- maybe inappropriately -- at one point in Ken Martin's Show #2. It was when Casey intro'd "Ohio" by CSNY with "This is not music to dance by." No kidding... though whether Casey had in mind the musical tempo, the tragic subject matter, or both is lost to time. I'm sure what he meant was "...this is SERIOUS stuff so listen to the words!" And he did it very succinctly and cleverly with just that one simple sentence, which I think was actually "...this is not music to dance TO".
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 14, 2015 14:43:44 GMT -5
I must admit to a laugh -- maybe inappropriately -- at one point in Ken Martin's Show #2. It was when Casey intro'd "Ohio" by CSNY with "This is not music to dance by." No kidding... though whether Casey had in mind the musical tempo, the tragic subject matter, or both is lost to time. I'm sure what he meant was "...this is SERIOUS stuff so listen to the words!" And he did it very succinctly and cleverly with just that one simple sentence, which I think was actually "...this is not music to dance TO". Absolutely, Doug! Proof that it's not what you say, but HOW you say it. Sadly, however, I wonder how many people actually understood (or noticed) that "inflection." It's been 45 years since the Kent State Massacre, and time has a way of erasing certain historical milestones. The 1970's began with a tragedy and ended with a party. Then came the 1980's. At least we had one constant for most of that decade: Casey Kasem's AT-40!
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Post by mkarns on Jul 14, 2015 15:25:00 GMT -5
I must admit to a laugh -- maybe inappropriately -- at one point in Ken Martin's Show #2. It was when Casey intro'd "Ohio" by CSNY with "This is not music to dance by." No kidding... though whether Casey had in mind the musical tempo, the tragic subject matter, or both is lost to time. I'm sure what he meant was "...this is SERIOUS stuff so listen to the words!" And he did it very succinctly and cleverly with just that one simple sentence, which I think was actually "...this is not music to dance TO". The previous week he said "you expect some pretty heavy stuff" from CSNY, so he may well have meant the seriousness of the song. (Though he may also have been alluding to the considerable talents and importance of the quartet as well.)
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Post by dukelightning on Jul 14, 2015 15:27:52 GMT -5
Good insights on your part. I have heard all the shows from 1970 in their entirety. Casey had many opportunities to expound on his political opinions what with songs like "Ohio" and "War" among others in the first few months of AT40 history. But I think he, Tom Rounds and Don Bustany knew that to gain a foothold in the radio industry, they needed to refrain from editorial comments and such. Instead, Casey went with the trying to be hip angle and most of what he said about the songs and artists was along those lines.
BTW, so New York City was one of those markets that dropped AT40 as soon as Casey left. Most stations held on until Casey was back on the air with CT40 several months later.
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Post by RCNipper on Jul 14, 2015 15:49:53 GMT -5
I'm sure what he meant was "...this is SERIOUS stuff so listen to the words!" And he did it very succinctly and cleverly with just that one simple sentence, which I think was actually "...this is not music to dance TO". The previous week he said "you expect some pretty heavy stuff" from CSNY, so he may well have meant the seriousness of the song. (Though he may also have been alluding to the considerable talents and importance of the quartet as well.) This is a great observation, Doug! Of course, you're referring to the inaugural AT-40 show from 7/4/70. Your observation made me go back to the original recording. Casey masterfully made a statement while comparing the individual members of CSNY to their association with former "heavy" groups of the Rock Era (The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, The Hollies). Buffalo Springfield wrote "For What It's Worth" as a protest song based on the imposed curfew riots in Los Angeles in 1966 (released in 1967). However, the song was adopted as an anti-war song that the members of this group did not oppose (the adoption of the song, not the Vietnam War, itself). The line "Stop! Hey! What's that sound?" went from meaning police sirens & tear gas to napalm & carpet bombings on Vietnamese civilian villages. Coincidentally, the words just happen to fit. I wouldn't be surprised if Casey meant the "heavy" line as a double-entente. Given Casey's anti-war stance, I'd bet there was something between the lines, there. Unfortunately, being the very first AT-40 show, Casey can't get political, as the program was trying to go far beyond the seven affiliates that picked it up on that first broadcast!
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