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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 4, 2011 21:46:01 GMT -5
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Post by Adrian on Sept 5, 2011 1:07:47 GMT -5
Thanks! Interesting that ever since the Hot 100 became an all-encompassing chart, I do not know most of the country songs that crossed over, since these songs were never played on pop radio, and I do not follow the country chart.
I am curious to know how you picked songs for some of the artists. Shania Twain, for instance, had bigger pop hits that also made #1 on the country chart.
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Post by cdman71031 on Sept 5, 2011 4:38:53 GMT -5
it said windows could not open the show what can i do?
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 5, 2011 6:16:10 GMT -5
You have to have a program to unzip the files. There are many free options online such as Winzip.
As for the songs, I picked in one of 3 ways:
-Biggest country hit that crossed over
-Biggest pop hit
-Special circumstance. Either the biggest hit was a duet (Which I avoided those), or I picked a not as high charting hit so the selections weren't so obvious. Patsy CLine for example, EVERYONE would expect Crazy, so I played Walkin After Midnight, her first hit to cross over, which was also the case for Shania Twain.
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Post by dukelightning on Sept 5, 2011 8:01:08 GMT -5
Patsy Cline's signature song is neither of those, it's I Fall to Pieces. That said, this is a good show from what I have heard. For most of the 2000s, I listened to country. Little did I know since I had long since stopped following the charts due to all the radical changes in the 90s, that many of the songs being played were charting rather high on the Hot 100. I have that Cyndi Thompson CD that you said was her only one. DId not know that. Great idea for a countdown!
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Post by jlthorpe on Sept 5, 2011 8:35:32 GMT -5
I listened to most of the show (missed the beginning and maybe an hour's worth in the middle, but thanks to your upload I caught the beginning and will listen to the rest that I missed), but I figured Elvis would have been near the top of the list, if not #1. Any reason for his omission, or was this addressed and I missed it? I know you excluded acts that weren't originally country like Exile, but Elvis seemed to be country from the start of his career (I think he even charted on the country chart a year before his first pop hit).
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 5, 2011 8:48:46 GMT -5
Elvis was omitted because by all things I read he mainly crossed over to Country as opposed to the other way around... Three others who I used special circumstances to include them were The Everly Brothers, Olivia Newton John & Linda Ronstadt. I only counted the crossover stuff and stopped when that stopped.
I didn't count Elvis at all to start with but if I had stretched things and counted him (again though only having crossover to country success) He'd have been in the high 20's to low 30's.
(The pop charts was first, then it debuted country is how I figured he crossed to country, not the sound of the songs)
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Post by mstgator on Sept 5, 2011 9:03:23 GMT -5
(I think he even charted on the country chart a year before his first pop hit) This is true... he had two double-sided Country hits on the Sun label in 1955 (one hit #1), neither of which hit the pop chart, before "Heartbreak Hotel" on RCA made him a multi-format superstar. Most of his RCA hits debuted on the pop chart first (or simultaneously pop and country), so I can see how those wouldn't be considered Country Crossovers. |
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 5, 2011 10:24:20 GMT -5
Yep, if they hit the country charts but not the pop charts, I didn't count those hits...
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Post by dukelightning on Sept 5, 2011 10:48:42 GMT -5
The top 10 is top heavy in recent artists. Not sure if that reflects the popularity of country in the last decade plus or the way the chart is tabulated during that time. But I am not complaining when the likes of Taylor Swift, Faith Hill, Carrie Underwood and LeAnn Rhimes are in it. 4 fine looking and sounding ladies there.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 5, 2011 11:03:34 GMT -5
Yep, but it was not a recent artist at the top and THAT was what I was most proud of!
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Post by jlthorpe on Sept 5, 2011 11:27:08 GMT -5
I see your point about Elvis. I figured he was more of a country artist at the start of his career, and he shifted to rock and roll or pop later on (I also don't have Joel Whitburn's country hits book to know if his biggest rock and roll hits also hit the country chart).
There were two artists I figured would be #1, Elvis or the artist that ended up hitting #1 (won't spoil it for those who haven't heard the show). I'd say the recent artists being at the top in some cases reflects the way Billboard tabulates the charts now (Tim McGraw if a big example - I think there's only a handful of his songs that pop radio picked up on).
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 5, 2011 12:08:05 GMT -5
Well, most pop radio hasn't played country at all in the last 20+ years. Maybe a few homoginized ballads (Minus country sounding instruments) I am proud to say I used all the "Country" versions!
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Post by jlthorpe on Sept 5, 2011 16:41:45 GMT -5
Of course not. I don't think McGraw, Kenny Chesney, Brad Paisley, etc. really had many, if any, pop hits. It's really just the chicks (Faith Hill, Shania Twain, Taylor Swift), plus an occasional hit from other artists (Achy Breaky Heart, Dixie Chicks' Landslide, Need You Now).
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Sept 5, 2011 17:30:37 GMT -5
No, they had alot of hits per Billboard... But the stations didn't play them.
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