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Post by bobbo428 on Aug 25, 2014 18:30:34 GMT -5
It can't be soul or country. "Turn to Stone" was the closest thing they had to a disco song in 1978, though it wasn't really disco. Their four 1978 singles weren't mellow enough to top the AC (Easy Listening) chart. There was something Billboard had called Rack Singles/Rack Albums sometime in the mid or late 1970s, so "Out of the Blue" may have topped that album chart before Saturday Night Fever took off. Other than that, it may have been one of Billboard's hits of the world charts (United Kingdom?)
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Post by 80sat40fan on Aug 25, 2014 20:16:33 GMT -5
I have a most amazing chart feat and one that is half most amazing and half most amusing:
* Most Amazing: Of Mariah Carey's first 20 singles to hit the Hot 100, 19 of them made the Top 5 with 15 of them becoming #1 songs. She had four #1s from her debut album/CD, and her first five releases went to #1.
* Most Amazing/Most Amusing: Three Dog Night hit the Hot 100 with 21 singles. All of them made the Top 40. There was not one song released by Three Dog Night to make the Hot 100 and miss the Top 40.
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Post by chrislc on Aug 25, 2014 21:36:59 GMT -5
I have a most amazing chart feat and one that is half most amazing and half most amusing: * Most Amazing: Of Mariah Carey's first 20 singles to hit the Hot 100, 19 of them made the Top 5 with 15 of them becoming #1 songs. She had four #1s from her debut album/CD, and her first five releases went to #1. * Most Amazing/Most Amusing: Three Dog Night hit the Hot 100 with 21 singles. All of them made the Top 40. There was not one song released by Three Dog Night to make the Hot 100 and miss the Top 40. And they had 11 Top Ten hits during the Nixon Presidency but none before or after. That 11 must be close to the most from 01/69 through 08/74, I would think.
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Post by freakyflybry on Aug 25, 2014 23:32:56 GMT -5
I think Ben E. King is the only act to have TWO 10-year gaps between Top 40 hits: 1963: I (Who Have Nothing) 1975: Supernatural Thing, Part 1 1986: Stand By Me Counting all her group and solo contributions, I believe Patti LaBelle does the same - three top 40 hits from 1962-64, then "Lady Marmalade" in 1975, then three more hits from 1985-86.
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Post by americantop40 on Aug 25, 2014 23:42:29 GMT -5
Regarding the ELO question, it was a tough one because it is a chart that did not get a lot of attention like the more common charts of pop, country, soul, ac, or even disco during that era. There was a weekly chart called Top Boxoffice (perhaps there still is, but I stopped reading Billboard decades ago). I don't recall how many times ELO was ranked at #1 during their highly successful tour in 1978, but if you want to see ELO listed at #1 on a Billboard chart, check out the Billboard magazine date for 9/9/78 in google books on the 6,000 to 20,000 arena chart for week ending 8/27/78. For those who like Billboard controversy, ELO is listed at #1 for ticket sales of 26,952 but in the Boxoffice chart for venues seating not more than 20000. So one might ask: How do you sell 26,952 tickets in an arena of 20,000 or less? Should the Commodores/LTD at #2 cry foul? Bigger than the RSO scandal on the pop chart in 1978?
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Post by johnnywest on Aug 26, 2014 8:55:58 GMT -5
* Most Amazing: Of Mariah Carey's first 20 singles to hit the Hot 100, 19 of them made the Top 5 with 15 of them becoming #1 songs. She had four #1s from her debut album/CD, and her first five releases went to #1. In R&R, her first 10 singles went to #1, which I think is the most amazing chart feat. In fact, when Casey did his AT10 Book of Records show in 2007, this was on the list.
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Post by rayshae3 on Aug 31, 2014 7:11:14 GMT -5
This has nothing to do with Rock Albums or Tracks chart or Billboard for that matter, but the Soundtrack of Xanadu was number one on both CashBox and Record World pop album charts for a single week each (in BB it didn’t go higher than #4.) On the Record World pop album chart, it was #1 on 9/20/80; and on CashBox pop album chart it was #1 on 10/18/80. A month difference is pretty wide IMO. Is there any way that you could please post the Cash Box and Record World pop album chart info for all Electric Light Orchestra albums here or PM me? Thanks in advance! I only have a list of CB and RW #1 albums + limited Top 30 album lists from Cashbox (because it was re-printed in the British publications NME and Melody Maker during the 70s) There are couple of books based on Cashbox Album charts by Frank Hoffman that came out in late 80s. Volume One covers 1955-1974, and Vol. 2 1975-1985. It is avilable in a number of libraries (according to OCLS’s www.worldcat.org in 140, two of which are local to me), I’ll see if I can locate one in the next couple of weeks when I visit the library and I’ll look at the ELO entries, but it won’t cover ‘Balance of power’. There is also an Record World album chart book that came out in 1990. Believe it or not, it was published in Germany. But it’s a chart/list book; so it’s understandable for non-German speakers. Its title is “Hit Guide: US Chart LP’s”. Author/Compiler: Günter Ehnert. It covers only Record World data between 1964-1982, not its predecessor “Music Vender” (It doesn’t matter for ELO anyway). I’ll ask around/PM in a few forum/discussion boards that I’m member of. Maybe somebody has it. So for the time being in Cashbox: Eldorado peaked at #16 for two consecutive weeks starting on 12/14/74 Face the Music peaked at #13 for two consecutive weeks starting on 2/21/76 A New World Record peaked at #10 for two consecutive weeks starting on 12/18/76 Out of the Blue peaked at #5 for four consecutive weeks starting on 12/31/77 Discovery peaked at #5 for three consecutive weeks starting on 7/14/79 …more later.
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Post by rayshae3 on Aug 31, 2014 7:15:01 GMT -5
Is there any way that you could please post the Cash Box and Record World pop album chart info for all Electric Light Orchestra albums here or PM me? Thanks in advance! I only have a list of CB and RW #1 albums + limited Top 30 album lists from Cashbox (because it was re-printed in the British publications NME and Melody Maker during the 70s) There are couple of books based on Cashbox Album charts by Frank Hoffman that came out in late 80s. Volume One covers 1955-1974, and Vol. 2 1975-1985. It is avilable in a number of libraries (according to OCLS’s www.worldcat.org in 140, two of which are local to me), I’ll see if I can locate one in the next couple of weeks when I visit the library and I’ll look at the ELO entries, but it won’t cover ‘Balance of power’. There is also an Record World album chart book that came out in 1990. Believe it or not, it was published in Germany. But it’s a chart/list book; so it’s understandable for non-German speakers. Its title is “Hit Guide: US Chart LP’s”. Author/Compiler: Günter Ehnert. It covers only Record World data between 1964-1982, not its predecessor “Music Vender” (It doesn’t matter for ELO anyway). I’ll ask around/PM in a few forum/discussion boards that I’m member of. Maybe somebody has it. So for the time being in Cashbox: Eldorado peaked at #16 for two consecutive weeks starting on 12/14/74 Face the Music peaked at #13 for two consecutive weeks starting on 2/21/76 A New World Record peaked at #10 for two consecutive weeks starting on 12/18/76 Out of the Blue peaked at #5 for four consecutive weeks starting on 12/31/77 Discovery peaked at #5 for three consecutive weeks starting on 7/14/79 …more later. Here’re some more ELO numbers from CashBox album chart: (Entry Date) Album Title (weeks in Chart) (Peak position) Wks in chart includes the frozen weeks two weeks in January 1982 and one week in January 1980) (May 5, 1973) Electric Light Orchestra II (20wks) (#53) (December 29, 1973) On the Third Day (25wks) (#31) (October 12, 1974) Eldorado (31wks) (#16) (October 25, 1975) Face the Music (42wks) (#13) (July 3, 1976) Ole ELO (37wks) (#24) (November 6, 1976) A New World Record (64wks) (#10) (November 26, 1977) Out of the Blue (55wks) (#5) (June 23, 1978) Discovery (37wks) (#5) (December 8, 1979) ELO’s Greatest Hits (18wks) (#30) (August 22, 1981) Time (21wks) (#9) (July 16, 1983) Secret Messages (18wks) (#33) The Record World chart data is tougher to get. Its album book is available in three libraries only, all three are located in Germany according to the WorldCat site.
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Post by trekkielo on Aug 31, 2014 11:57:29 GMT -5
I only have a list of CB and RW #1 albums + limited Top 30 album lists from Cashbox (because it was re-printed in the British publications NME and Melody Maker during the 70s) There are couple of books based on Cashbox Album charts by Frank Hoffman that came out in late 80s. Volume One covers 1955-1974, and Vol. 2 1975-1985. It is avilable in a number of libraries (according to OCLS’s www.worldcat.org in 140, two of which are local to me), I’ll see if I can locate one in the next couple of weeks when I visit the library and I’ll look at the ELO entries, but it won’t cover ‘Balance of power’. There is also an Record World album chart book that came out in 1990. Believe it or not, it was published in Germany. But it’s a chart/list book; so it’s understandable for non-German speakers. Its title is “Hit Guide: US Chart LP’s”. Author/Compiler: Günter Ehnert. It covers only Record World data between 1964-1982, not its predecessor “Music Vender” (It doesn’t matter for ELO anyway). I’ll ask around/PM in a few forum/discussion boards that I’m member of. Maybe somebody has it. So for the time being in Cashbox: Eldorado peaked at #16 for two consecutive weeks starting on 12/14/74 Face the Music peaked at #13 for two consecutive weeks starting on 2/21/76 A New World Record peaked at #10 for two consecutive weeks starting on 12/18/76 Out of the Blue peaked at #5 for four consecutive weeks starting on 12/31/77 Discovery peaked at #5 for three consecutive weeks starting on 7/14/79 …more later. Here’re some more ELO numbers from CashBox album chart: (Entry Date) Album Title (weeks in Chart) (Peak position) Wks in chart includes the frozen weeks two weeks in January 1982 and one week in January 1980) (May 5, 1973) Electric Light Orchestra II (20wks) (#53) (December 29, 1973) On the Third Day (25wks) (#31) (October 12, 1974) Eldorado (31wks) (#16) (October 25, 1975) Face the Music (42wks) (#13) (July 3, 1976) Ole ELO (37wks) (#24) (November 6, 1976) A New World Record (64wks) (#10) (November 26, 1977) Out of the Blue (55wks) (#5) (June 23, 1978) Discovery (37wks) (#5) (December 8, 1979) ELO’s Greatest Hits (18wks) (#30) (August 22, 1981) Time (21wks) (#9) (July 16, 1983) Secret Messages (18wks) (#33) The Record World chart data is tougher to get. Its album book is available in three libraries only, all three are located in Germany according to the WorldCat site. Wow, thanks, what was Xanadu's total CashBox chart data, both #1 and overall weeks, then "No Answer" never charted in 1972? It came in at #196 on Billboard.
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Post by trekkielo on Aug 31, 2014 21:16:51 GMT -5
Regarding the ELO question, it was a tough one because it is a chart that did not get a lot of attention like the more common charts of pop, country, soul, ac, or even disco during that era. There was a weekly chart called Top Boxoffice (perhaps there still is, but I stopped reading Billboard decades ago). I don't recall how many times ELO was ranked at #1 during their highly successful tour in 1978, but if you want to see ELO listed at #1 on a Billboard chart, check out the Billboard magazine date for 9/9/78 in google books on the 6,000 to 20,000 arena chart for week ending 8/27/78. Wow, thanks, I've been looking around for information like this quite a long time, also found another one from 8-26-78! US Billboard Top Boxoffice Stadiums & Festivals (More Than 20,000) Date For Week Ending 8-13-78/Published in the 8-26-78 issue of Billboard magazine Rank 1 ARTIST – Promoter, Facility, Dates ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA/HEART/TRICKSTER – Brass Ring Productions, Silverdome, Pontiac, Mich., Aug. 12 & 13 (2) Total Ticket Sales 57,440 Ticket Price Scale $10-$12.50 Gross Receipts $689,280Arenas (6,000 To 20,000)Date For Week Ending 8-27-78/Published in the 9-9-78 issue of Billboard magazine Rank 1 ARTIST – Promoter, Facility, Dates ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA/TRICKSTER – Bill Graham Presents, Col., Oakland, Calif., Aug. 23-24 (2) Total Ticket Sales 26,952 Ticket Price Scale $7.50-$9.50 Gross Receipts $237,380** DENOTES SELLOUT PERFORMANCESMore later...
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Post by trekkielo on Aug 31, 2014 23:06:41 GMT -5
For those who like Billboard controversy, ELO is listed at #1 for ticket sales of 26,952 but in the Boxoffice chart for venues seating not more than 20000. So one might ask: How do you sell 26,952 tickets in an arena of 20,000 or less? Should the Commodores/LTD at #2 cry foul? Bigger than the RSO scandal on the pop chart in 1978? Well, because it was Bill Graham and at the O.co Coliseum or Arena, need I say more!
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Post by rayshae3 on Sept 6, 2014 14:59:32 GMT -5
Here’re some more ELO numbers from CashBox album chart: (Entry Date) Album Title (weeks in Chart) (Peak position) Wks in chart includes the frozen weeks two weeks in January 1982 and one week in January 1980) (May 5, 1973) Electric Light Orchestra II (20wks) (#53) (December 29, 1973) On the Third Day (25wks) (#31) (October 12, 1974) Eldorado (31wks) (#16) (October 25, 1975) Face the Music (42wks) (#13) (July 3, 1976) Ole ELO (37wks) (#24) (November 6, 1976) A New World Record (64wks) (#10) (November 26, 1977) Out of the Blue (55wks) (#5) (June 23, 1978) Discovery (37wks) (#5) (December 8, 1979) ELO’s Greatest Hits (18wks) (#30) (August 22, 1981) Time (21wks) (#9) (July 16, 1983) Secret Messages (18wks) (#33) The Record World chart data is tougher to get. Its album book is available in three libraries only, all three are located in Germany according to the WorldCat site. Wow, thanks, what was Xanadu's total CashBox chart data, both #1 and overall weeks, then "No Answer" never charted in 1972? It came in at #196 on Billboard.
Strange, the Cashbox’s album book I’ve been refering to, has ‘Xanadu’ having its own entry under the letter X; not under ELO, nor under Olivia Newton John (and there’s no section for Soundtracks or Various Artists listed either.) And this is despite e.g. ‘Saturday Nigth Fever’ OST being listed under the Bee Gees albums…go and figure! ‘Xanadu’ Original Film Soundtrack (entry date: 7/12/80) (total wks: 44) (highest peak: #1) Plus, ‘No Answer’ didn’t chart in CashBox.
Just in case, here’re some related acts from the CashBox album charts:
The Move: ‘Split Ends’ (entry date: 3/17/73) only one week in the chart; that week at #170 ‘First Move’ (entry date: 7/6/74) (total wks: 6) (highest peak: #166)
Roy Wood: ‘Boulders’ (entry date: 11/24/73) (total wks: 8) (highest peak: #129)
Wizard: ‘Introducing Eddy and the Falcons’ (entry date: 10/5/74) (total wks: 7) (highest peak: #137)
BTW: One of the German libraries I mentioned that own the Record World LP chartbook, is an academic library that caters to international (i.e. non-German) students; so they are the best bet and might willing to co-operate digging the RW chart numbers; I shot out an e-mail anyway. But better yet, a late word: I might be able to locate the author of the book himself. His works are under Taurus publications and apparently in a bookseller capacity operates one of few places in Germany you can find Whitburn books. Stay tuned…
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Post by lasvegaskid on Jun 18, 2021 17:46:14 GMT -5
Elton John's consecutive years of hitting the top 40 AGREE! Elton's streak of having at least one song in top 40 from '70-'99 is most amazing! Not Madonna, Mariah, McCartney, Michael, Diana or even Elvis can top that!!! I think Elt's biggest feat within the feat was The One being a top tenner in Sept 1992 an unexpected shining star at radio which had become a flaming pile of fragmented smelly awful sounding sh**.
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Post by dth1971 on Jun 19, 2021 8:46:30 GMT -5
How about this during the 1992 AT40 Top 40 Radio Monitor chart source era? "I'll Be There" by Mariah Carey entering AT40 at #4, then moving to #2 the second week before finally reaching #1 for an 8 week stay.
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Post by Hervard on Jun 19, 2021 8:58:56 GMT -5
How about this during the 1992 AT40 Top 40 Radio Monitor chart source era? "I'll Be There" by Mariah Carey entering AT40 at #4, then moving to #2 the second week before finally reaching #1 for an 8 week stay. Or Madonna's "Erotica" debuting at #2, yet never hitting #1 at all.
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