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Post by pointpark04 on Aug 27, 2019 9:31:08 GMT -5
Hi everybody.
So I've been listening to the 1979 shows chronologically this year, and I really have to wonder how Le Freak lost out to My Sharona in the year-end rankings.
I know that Le Freak sold over 7 million copies, but I can't find anything solid on how many single versions of My Sharona were bought. Le Freak also stayed on the Hot 100 for three weeks longer than My Sharona, 25 to 22.
Unless My Sharona received such a massive amount of airplay points during its run, I have to think that it was the disco backlash that kept Chic from nabbing the top spot of that year.
One more thing: How was Rise number one for two weeks yet only #80 for the year? I don't get that.
If anybody can shine a little light (1979 reference there) on this subject for me, I'd appreciate it.
Cheers!
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Post by mga707 on Aug 27, 2019 11:52:02 GMT -5
Hi everybody. So I've been listening to the 1979 shows chronologically this year, and I really have to wonder how Le Freak lost out to My Sharona in the year-end rankings. I know that Le Freak sold over 7 million copies, but I can't find anything solid on how many single versions of My Sharona were bought. Le Freak also stayed on the Hot 100 for three weeks longer than My Sharona, 25 to 22. Unless My Sharona received such a massive amount of airplay points during its run, I have to think that it was the disco backlash that kept Chic from nabbing the top spot of that year. One more thing: How was Rise number one for two weeks yet only #80 for the year? I don't get that. If anybody can shine a little light (1979 reference there) on this subject for me, I'd appreciate it. Cheers! "Rise" was still in the Hot 100 at the year-end cutoff date so that hurt it's position on the year-end chart. A common occurence for #1s that peak in October as "Rise" did.
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Post by matt on Aug 27, 2019 12:44:05 GMT -5
Hard to say about "Le Freak" versus "My Sharona". I do remember at the time hearing both songs a lot, and "My Sharona" certainly was really all over the radio from July through October. I don't know that you could say the disco backlash would've affected the year-end top 100, because it really would've been based on chart data throughout the survey period (assuming the compiling of the chart data was all on the up-and-up, which despite Bill Wardlow being in charge, wouldn't have taken genre, etc. into account).
mga707 mentioned that "Rise" took a hit due to its chart run being cut off by the end of the survey period for the year-end countdown, and "Le Freak" may very well have suffered from that too, albeit on the opposite end of the period. It's first week on the Hot 100 was 10/28/78, which would mean that it's first few weeks fell in the last few weeks of the 1978 year-end countdown survey period. That could have been enough to knock it down to #2 for the year.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Aug 27, 2019 13:31:16 GMT -5
I, like pointpark04, have enjoyed the run through 1979 this year. I haven't gone ahead of the corresponding week, though I've debated doing that. Anyway, with regard to the year-end stats, Billboard's cut-off date was a little earlier than years past, in part also to calculate decade-end chart stats. If only spreadsheets were around then; I would think the earlier half of December would be ideal, to be more reflective of the calendar year, while giving enough time to compile rankings and produce the year-end show to air by 12/31 or 1/1. But I understand that wasn't a very realistic timetable to work with back then. Many songs in the 1980 year-end were more 1979 hits, like M's "Pop Muzik", which I think of as more of a 1979 hit than a 1980 hit (it ranked #9 on the 1980 top 100). With all the stipulations and cut-off dates throughout the 70s, I feel many songs were short-changed on year-end rankings, with the aforementioned "Rise" being one of them.
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Post by at40petebattistini on Aug 27, 2019 14:31:41 GMT -5
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Post by djjoe1960 on Aug 27, 2019 15:45:31 GMT -5
Le Freak by Chic was Cash Box Magazine's #1 single of 1979. Radio & Records had Da Ya Think I'm Sexy as their 1979 year end #1 and Record World gave the top spot to Hot Stuff by Donna Summer. As you can see each magazine had a different song/single at the top of their year end chart. It was actually rare that the trade magazines agreed on the top song/single of the year--due to the different ways that they figured their year end charts (how did sales or airplay affect the rankings and the time frame that was used). Since most of us listened to AT40, we figured that their year end countdown was the definitive one--but over the years I have been surprised at some of the differences of the charts. I guess that is what makes chart watching fun and realize that they all started out as industry only magazine/newspapers and it was the countdown shows that brought most of them to the attention of the general public at large.
Now back to our usual programming....
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Post by vince on Aug 29, 2019 23:43:20 GMT -5
Here is an explanation. There were two factors that reduced "Le Freaks" points. The week of 12/30/79 was not counted when BB did the tabulation. The other was the way BB awarded #1 bonus points.
I was able to get a 100% match with BB’s official ranking. The methodology is the exactly same as what was used by BB for 1976, reverse rank with summation #1 bonus points. The survey period gets really weird here, running from 10/21/1978 to 10/20/1979. One major flaw with the methodology is the way the #1 bonus point are computed and it shows in this ranking because a lot of records hit #1 fell out and returned. Number one bonus points are not awarded equally for a consecutive stay and non-consecutive stay at #1. The best example of this is “Le Freak” only getting 800 bonus for 5 non-consecutive weeks at #1 while “Bad Girls” got 1500 bonus points for its 5 consecutive weeks. “Do Ya Think I’m Sexy?” and “Reunited” both got 1000 bonus points for 4 weeks at #1, more than “Le Freak”. “I Will Survive” and “Hot Stuff” each got 400 bonus points but it did not affect their position.
"Le Freak"'s entire chart run was counted except for the frozen week. "My Sharona" did loose some points due to the cut off, but got 2100 bonus point for the 6 week consecutive stay at #1.
Points (* indicates a #1 song) POS-TITLE-Artist (Peak Position-Peak Month) 3572 *1 MY SHARONA The Knack (Capitol) (#1, Aug) 3045 *2 BAD GIRLS Donna Summer (Casablanca) (#1, July) 2677 *3 LE FREAK Chic (Atlantic) (#1, Dec 1978) 2610 *4 DO YA THINK I'M SEXY? Rod Stewart (Warner Brothers) (#1, Feb) 2557 *5 REUNITED Peaches and Herb (Polydor) (#1, May) 2186 *6 I WILL SURVIVE Gloria Gaynor (Polydor) (#1, March) 2115 *7 HOT STUFF Donna Summer (Casablanca) (#1, June) 1880 8 Y.M.C.A. The Village People (Casablanca) (#2, Feb) 1791 *9 RING MY BELL Anita Ward (Juana) (#1, June) 1785 *10 SAD EYES Robert John (EMI-America) (#1, Oct) 1726 *11 TOO MUCH HEAVEN The Bee Gees (RSO) (#1, Jan) 1676 *12 MAC ARTHUR PARK Donna Summer (Casablanca) (#1, Nov 1978) 1619 13 WHEN YOU'RE IN LOVE WITH A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN Dr. Hook (Capitol) (#6, Aug) 1608 14 MAKIN' IT David Naughton (RSO) (#5, July) 1582 15 FIRE The Pointer Sisters (Planet) (#2, Feb) 1571 *16 TRAGEDY The Bee Gees (RSO) (#1, March) 1562 17 A LITTLE MORE LOVE Olivia Newton-John (MCA) (#3, Feb) 1558 *18 HEART OF GLASS Blondie (Chrysalis) (#1, April) 1555 *19 WHAT A FOOL BELIEVES The Doobie Brothers (Warner Brothers) (#1, April) 1530 *20 GOOD TIMES Chic (Atlantic) (#1, Aug) 1510 *21 YOU DON'T BRING ME FLOWERS Barbra and Neil (Columbia) (#1, Dec 1978) 1509 *22 KNOCK ON WOOD Amii Wood (Ariola) (#1, April) 1505 23 STUMBLIN' IN Suzi Quatro and Chris Norman (RSO) (#4, May) 1502 24 LEAD ME ON Maxine Nightingale (Windsong) (#5, Sept) 1492 25 SHAKE YOUR BODY (Down To the Ground) The Jacksons (Epic) (#7, May) 1392 26 DON'T CRY OUT LOUD Melissa Manchester (Arista) (#10, March) 1386 27 THE LOGICAL SONG Supertramp (A&M) (#6, June) 1368 28 MY LIFE Billy Joel (Columbia) (#3, Jan) 1367 29 JUST WHEN I NEEDED YOU MOST Randy Vanwarmer (Bearsville) (#4, June) 1366 30 YOU CAN'T CHANGE THAT Raydio (Arista) (#9, Aug) 1356 31 SHAKE YOUR GROOVE THING Peaches and Herb (Polydor) (#5, March) 1348 32 I'LL NEVER LOVE THIS WAY AGAIN Dionne Warwick (Arista) (#5, Oct) 1342 *33 LOVE YOU INSIDE OUT The Bee Gees (RSO) (#1, June) 1312 34 I WANT YOU TO WANT ME Cheap Trick (Epic) (#7, July) 1306 35 THE MAIN EVENT/FIGHT Barbra Streisand (Columbia) (#3, Aug) 1288 36 MAMA CAN'T BUY YOU LOVE Elton John (MCA) (#9, Aug) 1286 37 I WAS MADE FOR DANCIN' Leif Garrett (Scotti Brothers) (#10, Feb) 1279 38 AFTER THE LOVE HAS GONE Earth, Wind, and Fire (ARC) (#2, Sept) 1268 39 HEAVEN KNOWS Donna Summer with Brooklyn Dreams (Casablanca) (#4, March) 1267 40 THE GAMBLER Kenny Rogers (United Artists) (#16, March) 1263 41 LOTTA LOVE Nicolette Larson (Warner Brothers) (#8, Feb) 1263 42 LADY The Little River Band (Capitol) (#10, April) 1260 43 HEAVEN MUST HAVE SENT YOU Bonnie Pointer (Motown) (#11, Oct) 1257 44 HOLD THE LINE Toto (Columbia) (#5, Jan) 1255 45 HE'S THE GREATEST DANCER Sister Sledge (Coltillon) (#9, May) 1242 46 SHARING THE NIGHT TOGETHER Dr. Hook (Capitol) (#6, Jan) 1241 47 SHE BELIEVES IN ME Kenny Rogers (United Artists) (#5, July) 1240 48 IN THE NAVY The Village People (Casablanca) (#3, May) 1232 49 MUSIC BOX DANCER Frank Mills (Polydor) (#3, May) 1231 50 THE DEVIL WENT DOWN TO GEORGIA The Charlie Daniels Band (Epic) (#3, Sept) 1225 51 GOLD John Stewart (with Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham) (RSO) (#5, Aug) 1215 52 GOODNIGHT TONIGHT Wings (Columbia) (#5, May) 1211 53 WE ARE FAMILY Sister Sledge (Cotillon) (#2, June) 1205 54 ROCK 'N' ROLL FANTASY Bad Company (Swan Song) (#13, June) 1191 55 EVERY 1'S A WINNER Hot Chcolate (Infinity) (#6, Feb) 1181 56 TAKE ME HOME Cher (Casablanca) (#8, May) 1174 57 BOOGIE WONDERLAND Earth, Wind, and Fire with the Emotions (ARC) (#6, July) 1173 58 (Our Love) DON'T THROW IT ALL AWAY Andy Gibb (RSO) (#9, Dec 1978) 1173 59 WHAT YOU WON'T DO FOR LOVE Bobby Caldwell (Clouds) (#9, March) 1170 60 NEW YORK GROOVE Ace Frehley (Casablanca) (#13, Feb) 1155 61 SULTANS OF SWING Dire Straits (Warner Brothers) (#4, April) 1151 62 I WANT YOUR LOVE Chic (Atlantic) (#7, May) 1147 63 CHUCK E'S IN LOVE Rickie Lee Jones (Warner Brothers) (#4, July) 1142 64 I LOVE THE NIGHT LIFE (Disco 'Round) Alicia Bridges (Polydor) (#5, Dec 1978) 1141 65 AIN'T NO STOPPIN' US NOW McFadden and Whitehead (Philadelphia International) (#13, July) 1138 66 LONESOME LOSER The Little River Band (Capitol) (#6, Sept) 1134 67 RENEGADE Styx (A&M) (#16, June) 1129 68 LOVE IS THE ANSWER England Dan and John Ford Coley (Big Tree) (#10, May) 1120 69 GOT TO BE REAL Cheryl Lynn (Columbia) (#12, Feb) 1114 70 BORN TO BE ALIVE Patrick Hernandez (Columbia) (#16, Sept) 1100 71 SHINE A LITTLE LOVE The Electric Light Orchestra (Jet) (#8, July) 1097 72 I JUST FALL IN LOVE AGAIN Anne Murray (Capitol) (#12, April) 1087 73 SHAKE IT Ian Matthews (Mushroom) (#13, Feb) 1078 74 I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU Kiss (Casablanca) (#11, Aug) 1077 75 I JUST WANNA STOP Gino Vanelli (A&M) (#4, Dec 1978) 1076 76 DISCO NIGHTS (Rock-Freak) G.Q. (Arista) (#12, June) 1069 77 OOH BABY BABY Linda Rinstadt (Elektra) (#7, Jan) 1053 78 SEPTEMBER Earth, Wind, and Fire (ARC) (#8, Feb) 1049 79 TIME PASSAGES Al Stewart (Arista) (#7, Dec 1978) 1049 *80 RISE Herb Alpert (A&M) (#1, Oct) 1037 81 DON'T BRING ME DOWN The Electric Light Orchestra (Jet) (#4, Sept) 1012 82 PROMISES Eric Clapton and His Band (RSO) (#9, Jan) 1011 83 GET USED TO IT Roger Voudoris (Warner Brothers) (#21, June) 1005 84 HOW MUCH I FEEL Ambrosia (Warner Brothers) (#3, Nov 1978) 1004 85 SUSPICIONS Eddie Rabbitt (Elektra) (#13, Sept) 998 86 YOU TAKE MY BREATH AWAY Rex Smith (Columbia) (#10, June) 984 87 HOW YOU GONNA SEE ME NOW Alice Cooper (Warner Brothers) (#12, Dec 1978) 975 88 DOUBLE VISION Foreigner (Atlantic) (#2, Nov 1978) 971 89 EVERY TIME I THINK OF YOU The Babys (Chrysalis) (#13, March) 944 90 I GOT MY MIND MADE UP (You Can Get It Girl) Instant Funk (Salsoul) (#20, May) 942 *91 DON'T STOP 'TILL YOU GET ENOUGH Michael Jackson (Epic) (#1, Oct) 931 92 BAD CASE OF LOVING YOU (Doctor, Doctor) Robert Palmer (Island) (#14, Sept) 931 93 SOMEWHERE IN THE NIGHT Barry Manilow (Arista) (#9, Feb) 930 94 WE'VE GOT TONITE Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band (Capitol) (#13, Jan) 929 95 DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY Van Halen (Warner Brothers) (#15, July) 926 96 DANCING SHOES Nigel Olsson (Bang) (#18, March) 920 97 THE BOSS Diana Ross (Motown) (#19, Oct) 917 98 SAIL ON The Commodores (Motown) (#4, Oct) 908 99 I DO LOVE YOU G.Q. (Arista) (#20, Sept) 906 100 STRANGE WAY Firefall (Atlantic) (#11, Dec 1978)
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Post by doofus67 on Aug 30, 2019 2:12:50 GMT -5
Fantastic work as always, Vince!
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