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Post by woolebull on Nov 20, 2018 11:43:54 GMT -5
I was noticing that "I Go Blind" by Hootie and the Blowfish debuted on CT 40 on 11/9/96 at number 36, dropped the next week to 37, then vaulted to 31. It got me thinking. How many songs were going down American Top 40 or Casey's Top 40, only to have a significant jump the week after it was dropping? I know there are a few like this in the early years of the show ("Ain't Seen Nothing Yet", for some reason, dropped from 12 to 34 back up to 8) There were times there were corrections (the week of 11/30/91 for American Top 40, the week of 4/30/94 for CT 40) and even times when a song slipped off the 40, only to come back stronger than ever the next week (7/21/79 comes to mind when "One Way or Another" by Blondie reentered AT at 29). Recently, "A Million Reasons" by Lady Gaga had a good run at the end of 2016, almost fell of the top 40, but started going back up the chart with an even stronger run after her Super Bowl appearance. What are some songs that have boomeranged throughout the years, and why? Some (like Hootie) might be the way the charts were set up at the time. Others (like Gaga) might have a specific reason. Others (Blondie, BTO), if you have an explanation (and we have discussed it before, years ago) I would really love to hear it.
For this discussion, let's limit it to songs that were dropping and then popped up four or more notches the following week. This would include Tony Terry's 1991 song, "With You" that dropped from 16 to 18 before jumping to its peak of 14 of 11/16/91. Let's also keep out the weeks of 11/30/91 and 4/30/94, which have been discussed many times on this board.
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Post by mga707 on Nov 20, 2018 12:15:41 GMT -5
I was noticing that "I Go Blind" by Hootie and the Blowfish debuted on CT 40 on 11/9/96 at number 36, dropped the next week to 37, then vaulted to 31. It got me thinking. How many songs were going down American Top 40 or Casey's Top 40, only to have a significant jump the week after it was dropping? I know there are a few like this in the early years of the show ("Ain't Seen Nothing Yet", for some reason, dropped from 12 to 34 back up to 8) There were times there were corrections (the week of 11/30/91 for American Top 40, the week of 4/30/94 for CT 40) and even times when a song slipped off the 40, only to come back stronger than ever the next week (7/21/79 comes to mind when "One Way or Another" by Blondie reentered AT at 29). Recently, "A Million Reasons" by Lady Gaga had a good run at the end of 2016, almost fell of the top 40, but started going back up the chart with an even stronger run after her Super Bowl appearance. What are some songs that have boomeranged throughout the years, and why? Some (like Hootie) might be the way the charts were set up at the time. Others (like Gaga) might have a specific reason. Others (Blondie, BTO), if you have an explanation (and we have discussed it before, years ago) I would really love to hear it. For this discussion, let's limit it to songs that were dropping and then popped up four or more notches the following week. This would include Tony Terry's 1991 song, "With You" that dropped from 16 to 18 before jumping to its peak of 14 of 11/16/91. Let's also keep out the weeks of 11/30/91 and 4/30/94, which have been discussed many times on this board. This type of movement was not uncommon in the second half of '73. 'Billboard' had changed their chart methodology in June (leading to the infamous 'wrong show' of June 9) and it showed. For example, "Ecstasy" by the Ohio Players had a yo-yo run in and out of the 40 that fall. Peaked at #34, fell out of the 40, back in for one week at #34 again, then out again for a week, then back in for a third time, peaking at #31. "Why Me" also famously had a lot of up-and-down movement in it's glacially slow and long chart run that year.
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Post by doofus67 on Nov 20, 2018 16:22:06 GMT -5
I was noticing that "I Go Blind" by Hootie and the Blowfish debuted on CT 40 on 11/9/96 at number 36, dropped the next week to 37, then vaulted to 31. It got me thinking. How many songs were going down American Top 40 or Casey's Top 40, only to have a significant jump the week after it was dropping? I know there are a few like this in the early years of the show ("Ain't Seen Nothing Yet", for some reason, dropped from 12 to 34 back up to 8) There were times there were corrections (the week of 11/30/91 for American Top 40, the week of 4/30/94 for CT 40) and even times when a song slipped off the 40, only to come back stronger than ever the next week (7/21/79 comes to mind when "One Way or Another" by Blondie reentered AT at 29). Recently, "A Million Reasons" by Lady Gaga had a good run at the end of 2016, almost fell of the top 40, but started going back up the chart with an even stronger run after her Super Bowl appearance. What are some songs that have boomeranged throughout the years, and why? Some (like Hootie) might be the way the charts were set up at the time. Others (like Gaga) might have a specific reason. Others (Blondie, BTO), if you have an explanation (and we have discussed it before, years ago) I would really love to hear it. For this discussion, let's limit it to songs that were dropping and then popped up four or more notches the following week. This would include Tony Terry's 1991 song, "With You" that dropped from 16 to 18 before jumping to its peak of 14 of 11/16/91. Let's also keep out the weeks of 11/30/91 and 4/30/94, which have been discussed many times on this board. 3/11/78: "Stayin' Alive" dropped from #2 to #6. 3/18/78: It rebounded from #6 to #2. Explanation? One word: RSO. 'Nuff said.
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Post by woolebull on Nov 20, 2018 17:32:18 GMT -5
I was noticing that "I Go Blind" by Hootie and the Blowfish debuted on CT 40 on 11/9/96 at number 36, dropped the next week to 37, then vaulted to 31. It got me thinking. How many songs were going down American Top 40 or Casey's Top 40, only to have a significant jump the week after it was dropping? I know there are a few like this in the early years of the show ("Ain't Seen Nothing Yet", for some reason, dropped from 12 to 34 back up to 8) There were times there were corrections (the week of 11/30/91 for American Top 40, the week of 4/30/94 for CT 40) and even times when a song slipped off the 40, only to come back stronger than ever the next week (7/21/79 comes to mind when "One Way or Another" by Blondie reentered AT at 29). Recently, "A Million Reasons" by Lady Gaga had a good run at the end of 2016, almost fell of the top 40, but started going back up the chart with an even stronger run after her Super Bowl appearance. What are some songs that have boomeranged throughout the years, and why? Some (like Hootie) might be the way the charts were set up at the time. Others (like Gaga) might have a specific reason. Others (Blondie, BTO), if you have an explanation (and we have discussed it before, years ago) I would really love to hear it. For this discussion, let's limit it to songs that were dropping and then popped up four or more notches the following week. This would include Tony Terry's 1991 song, "With You" that dropped from 16 to 18 before jumping to its peak of 14 of 11/16/91. Let's also keep out the weeks of 11/30/91 and 4/30/94, which have been discussed many times on this board. 3/11/78: "Stayin' Alive" dropped from #2 to #6. 3/18/78: It rebounded from #6 to #2. Explanation? One word: RSO. 'Nuff said. That's a perfect one! And those are the ones I love. Something out of the ordinary. I started listening to the countdown in July of 1982 and for a song to rebound more than one spot just didn't happen. In fact if you use the time of 7/3/82 to 11/23/91, besides Tony Terry on 11/16/91, I can't think of any song rebounding more that 2 notches. And rarely were there any that rebounded at all (exceptions, of course, rereleased songs). Though I need to check to see where "Always and Forever" in 1990 redebuted at on AT 40. But that can be explained to a mini revamping of the charts, I believe.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Nov 20, 2018 18:19:31 GMT -5
I recall two songs from the 1970's that fit this topic.
From 1974--Sweet Home Alabama, which reached #9 the first week of October then fell to #19 the next week before climbing back up to #15 the following week and finally peaked at #8 the last week of October. Some really strange chart action.
The other song was Way Down by Elvis Presley, which first peaked at #31; a few weeks before Elvis died, in mid-August 1977. The song had sunk into the 50's before it rebounded back up the chart, after his death, to reach #18.
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Post by doofus67 on Nov 20, 2018 21:46:09 GMT -5
Two big hits from 1975 fall a tad bit short of following the four-notch rebound rule, but they're definitely notable.
5/31/75: "Philadelphia Freedom" bounced from #15 to #12, then to #10, then to #9. This after sliding 1-2-4-7-11-15.
12/20/75: "That's the Way (I Like It)" bounced from #4 to #1. It went 1-2-2-4-1.
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Post by 1finemrg on Nov 21, 2018 11:18:54 GMT -5
Don't know if this qualifies, but the Top 40 (and then some) action for this song looks like this:
37-32-29-27-27-26-47-41-37-33-33-32
Ariel - Dean Friedman
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Post by doofus67 on Nov 21, 2018 13:37:50 GMT -5
Don't know if this qualifies, but the Top 40 (and then some) action for this song looks like this: 37-32-29-27-27-26-47-41-37-33-33-32 Ariel - Dean Friedman I'd say it qualifies. It dropped, then made a four-notch leap within the top 40.
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Post by johnnywest on Nov 21, 2018 13:44:03 GMT -5
On Casey's Top 40, "Lump" fell 2 notches (with a bullet), then rebounded 4 notches to #30 on the weekend of Nov. 24, 1995.
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Post by mga707 on Nov 21, 2018 15:21:12 GMT -5
Don't know if this qualifies, but the Top 40 (and then some) action for this song looks like this: 37-32-29-27-27-26-47-41-37-33-33-32 Ariel - Dean Friedman Should've remembered 'Ariel', as it's one of my all-time favorite songs! Reason for it's 'double peak' was that it was a big hit in some areas early and other areas later that summer of '77. In other areas (like mine) it received no airplay other than on 'AT40' once KTKT started running the show in July. Always think of it and 'Undercover Angel' as a 'pair' due to their somewhat similar sound. Both great summer songs.
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Post by woolebull on Nov 21, 2018 16:44:45 GMT -5
Don't know if this qualifies, but the Top 40 (and then some) action for this song looks like this: 37-32-29-27-27-26-47-41-37-33-33-32 Ariel - Dean Friedman Should've remembered 'Ariel', as it's one of my all-time favorite songs! Reason for it's 'double peak' was that it was a big hit in some areas early and other areas later that summer of '77. In other areas (like mine) it received no airplay other than on 'AT40' once KTKT started running the show in July. Always think of it and 'Undercover Angel' as a 'pair' due to their somewhat similar sound. Both great summer songs. As someone who just knows "Ariel" because of hearing AT 40 shows from 1977 retroactively, I'm absolutely shocked it only went to number 26. I knew it wasn't a top 10 hit, but am floored it wasn't a top 25 hit.
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Post by SFGuy on Nov 21, 2018 16:45:34 GMT -5
What about Bachman-Turner Overdrive's "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet"? It was #1 on 11/9/74, fell to 12 the following week to 34 then jumped back to #8!
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Post by woolebull on Nov 21, 2018 17:18:37 GMT -5
So apparently something I just happened upon with Tony Terry ended up being a really weird chart run. He "triple peaked". Starting with the 10/26/91 show the chart run of "With You" was different from anything that had happened on American Top 40 in years:
21-16-18-14-19-16-18-off
So, Tony got one boost for some random boomerang action on 11-16-91. He then got a boost when the charts changed on 11/30/91. Only to drop off completely from 18 two weeks later.
This might be the only song that boomeranged twice because of two completely different occurrences: one being a random boost, the other because of a complete chart change.
And the most interesting thing about the song might be that it dropped off all the way at 18. Even on the new AT 40 airplay charts that were used from the end of 1991 until 1995 (minus the 11/30/91 show) songs dropping off from the top 20 were rare. I can't think of any other songs that did except "All I Want For Christmas Is You" by Mariah Carey, when she dropped from the top 10 off the charts at the beginning of 1995.
One more interesting chart nugget: the 11/30/91 show was missing three songs that had dropped from #18 or higher, including "Don't Cry" by G-n-R which dropped out from #10. Of course, this was because of the new chart. Tony dropping two weeks later from #18 ended a pretty cool run, for a really great song.
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Post by 1finemrg on Nov 21, 2018 22:28:40 GMT -5
Don't know if this qualifies, but the Top 40 (and then some) action for this song looks like this: 37-32-29-27-27-26-47-41-37-33-33-32 Ariel - Dean Friedman Well, if Ariel works then the most schizophrenic chart ride I know of qualifies as well. Why not him? 50-37-35-42-50-44-52-45-32-31-26-23-31-23-21-23-21-21-19-16-17-21-31-34-38 Why Me - Kris Kristofferson Actually saw him in concert in the mid-80s at a small club. The lead guitarist of his band was a one-hit wonder whose only Top 40 hit topped the charts in 1974. Billy Swan
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Post by djjoe1960 on Nov 22, 2018 8:10:30 GMT -5
Should've remembered 'Ariel', as it's one of my all-time favorite songs! Reason for it's 'double peak' was that it was a big hit in some areas early and other areas later that summer of '77. In other areas (like mine) it received no airplay other than on 'AT40' once KTKT started running the show in July. Always think of it and 'Undercover Angel' as a 'pair' due to their somewhat similar sound. Both great summer songs. As someone who just knows "Ariel" because of hearing AT 40 shows from 1977 retroactively, I'm absolutely shocked it only went to number 26. I knew it wasn't a top 10 hit, but am floored it wasn't a top 25 hit. I always enjoyed Dean Friedman's nod to the Beach Boys/4 Seasons sound of the 1960's (Ariel) but the song had a more straight forward run in the Cash Box Top 40. 38--35--33--30--26--24--21--19--18--17--31--33--38--40 (14 weeks in the Top 40). The song did place at #92 on the 1977 year end chart--and Billboard placed it at #69 on their year end survey (although Casey & Company did their own year end chart and the song was #87).
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