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Post by dth1971 on Dec 1, 2017 11:16:55 GMT -5
If Premiere merged with Cumulus and got the rights to do a 3rd. retro AT40 series to compliment AT40: The 70's and AT40 The 80's with the 1988-1995 AT40 Shadoe Stevens hosted shows calling it "AT40: The Shadoe Stevens Era". How will it be played out 4 hours weekly?
I know in speculation:
* The intro to show, end of show outro, start of hour bumpers, and OPTIONAL EXTRA segments will be done by Larry Morgan. (i.e. "And now, Premiere Networks proudly presents, American Top 40: The Shadoe Stevens Era, this week's presentation is the first AT40 show Shadoe Stevens did from August 13, 1988")
* There will be 4 OPTIONAL EXTRA segments.
* Occassionally, a LONG DISTANCE DEDICATION and/or 1991-1995 AT40 SNEAK PEEK song may be demoted to OPTIONAL EXTRA status.
* The 1989-1995 AT40 TOP 5 FLASHBACK segment will be intact in the show. Same for the 1991-1995 AT40 Music News segment?
* The Shadoe AT40 series will not include the guest hosted shows (Debbie Gibson, Donny Osmond, Nelson, Richard Marx, Jody Watley, Martha Quinn, Jay Thomas, etc.) unless they are bonus AT40 shows for Memorial Day, July 4th., and Labor Day weekends. Same for the 4 AT40 Shadoe Specials (AT40 World Tour, AT40 Book of Records 1980's, AT40 20th. Anniversary, AT40 All American special)
* Larry Morgan's outro about the AT40 Shadoe shows will mention the remastering people but no mention of Casey Kasem ("...and of course, Shadoe Stevens, I'm Larry Morgan, thanks for listening.")
What do you think?
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Post by at40nut on Dec 1, 2017 12:38:44 GMT -5
This topic has been discussed many times before. There are some cool ideas in your presentation, but it would be a tough sell to affiliates IF Premiere were to have any dealings with Cumulus. I don't think it would be lucrative enough. Turn on any classic hits station today and most songs on 80's stations play songs from 82-86. You really only hear on occasion songs from 1988-1989, as well as the 90's. Look at the current state of affairs on the number of unaired shows from 1979 in the Premiere offerings. If Casey held on with AT40 until the end of 1989, I think there would be more unaired shows from that year than any other year in the 80's. 1979 and 1989 were polarizing years of music for different reasons. I don't think " The Shadoe Years" would appeal to a large audience. Look what happened back in the day with certain affiliates opting for CT40 over AT40 starting in 1989. Shadoe was good in his own right, but he was not Casey Kasem. It is impossible to follow a legend. As much as I would also love to see it happen, it is not going to happen .
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Post by mrjukebox on Dec 1, 2017 12:55:06 GMT -5
In my opinion,the Shadoe Stevens era of "AT40" will never see the light of day on terrestrial radio-Shadoe may be likeable but he doesn't possess the charisma that Casey Kasem had.
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Post by burcjm on Dec 1, 2017 13:27:27 GMT -5
I'd rather Casey's Top 40 get reaired. Not only are these shows also hosted by Casey Kasem but there would be 2 more years worth of shows in rotation: 1989-1998. The first show rebroadcast should be the first CT40 show from 1/21/89. (January 2019 would be the perfect time to start.) I mean, if Rick Dees's 90's series can air, certainly this one could. Plus Rick Dees's 90's series has much less shows in rotation.
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Post by mkarns on Dec 1, 2017 13:30:08 GMT -5
Yeah; Shadoe was and is very good at what he does, and did the best he could with the unenviable task of replacing a legend who was synonymous with countdowns, and furthermore while that same legend was a friendly rival. But it's hard to see these shows being reaired for reasons including that for whatever reason the time frame they cover (late 80s/early 90s) mostly, except for select songs or artists, seems not to "test well" or whatever with listeners or programmers today. I certainly wouldn't mind being wrong, though. Good memories of these...
Much of the 90s music that is replayed is either from later in the decade or wasn't characteristic of much of what was on AT40. If we ever did get a 90s AT40-related syndicated countdown it would probably mostly be Casey's Top 40.
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Post by mrjukebox on Dec 1, 2017 14:51:40 GMT -5
I believe that Westwood One still owns the rights to "Casey's Top 40"-It would be their decision to reair the shows on terrestrial radio.
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 1, 2017 15:29:25 GMT -5
I believe that Westwood One still owns the rights to "Casey's Top 40"-It would be their decision to reair the shows on terrestrial radio. Is Westwood One now called Entercom after it merged with CBS Radio? |
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Post by matt on Dec 1, 2017 17:09:39 GMT -5
In my opinion,the Shadoe Stevens era of "AT40" will never see the light of day on terrestrial radio-Shadoe may be likeable but he doesn't possess the charisma that Casey Kasem had. Add to it that the six-plus years that Shadoe did the show were among the least desirable in terms of recurrent top 40 music in today's market. Even as far as the 1990s go as a decade, the higher percentage of "playable" songs on classic hits stations today cover more the latter half of the 90's...mostly after the plug was pulled on Shadoe's AT40. There are just too many things working against Shadoe's AT40 shows, not the least of which is that Shadoe himself doesn't carry the same appeal to the masses that Casey did/does (after all, there's a reason he was cancelled while an aging Casey continued to thrive into and beyond the late 90's). I believe that Westwood One still owns the rights to "Casey's Top 40"-It would be their decision to reair the shows on terrestrial radio. WW1 apparently still does own the Casey's Top 40 series, and apparently tried to destroy it back in 1998 when Casey left. One could speculate that the ownership over those shows combined with the condition several of them may be in would make it too messy for Premiere to pursue. Not to mention they'd have to buy the rights from WW1 and market and package shows that are relatively lean on playable songs. The assumption is that Premiere wouldn't find it to be enough of a profitable venture to try to air Casey's Top 40. If I had to guess, I'd say there might be a chance that Casey's Top 40 would be offered in syndication if Premiere had inherently owned the rights to the show (as they did the original AT40s from the 70s and 80s), but since they don't, they probably don't consider it to be of much value to pursue it at this point. WW1 more than likely doesn't have interest in resurrecting any of the old Casey's Top 40s or spin-off countdowns, or they probably would have done so already. |
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Post by johnnywest on Dec 2, 2017 18:15:25 GMT -5
If Premiere merged with Cumulus and got the rights to do a 3rd. retro AT40 series to compliment AT40: The 70's and AT40 The 80's with the 1988-1995 AT40 Shadoe Stevens hosted shows calling it "AT40: The Shadoe Stevens Era". How will it be played out 4 hours weekly? I know in speculation: * The intro to show, end of show outro, start of hour bumpers, and OPTIONAL EXTRA segments will be done by Larry Morgan. (i.e. "And now, Premiere Networks proudly presents, American Top 40: The Shadoe Stevens Era, this week's presentation is the first AT40 show Shadoe Stevens did from August 13, 1988") I don't see why Larry would have to be involved. Shadoe is still alive and still sounds great. He could announce the show and optionals himself. |
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 23, 2018 9:36:17 GMT -5
Thought I would bump this thread for some curiousity on an AT40 Shadoe Stevens Years series, that before an OPTIONAL EXTRA like in recent AT40: The 80's broadcasts Larry or Shadoe would mention the #1 video game of the week - I could imagine it now: #1 home video game of the 8/31/1991 week - "Sonic the Hedgehog" from Sega Genesis.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 13:20:52 GMT -5
Whatever. It’s not being added so this is a dead topic.
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Post by bobbo428 on Dec 23, 2018 15:05:06 GMT -5
Maybe by the time we get to the 40th anniversary of 1989 or 1990--the next time this date falls on a Sunday, for instance, it will be 2029 and the 40th anniversary of when Phil Collins' "Another Day in Paradise" ascended to No. 1 on the pop chart. 1989 is not quite yet even 30 years ago, so it might take a decade for all the corporate nonsense to be settled. By then, I could be in Purgatory or wherever, but I hope someone will be around to enjoy it.
By 1989 and 1990, a lot of my favorite songs were being relegated to AC or AOR radio. Country was becoming very popular but was being ignored by pop at its own peril. Pop radio was at MTV's mercy. Hot AC was becoming popular with my age group because we wanted the hits without the obnoxious hair metal or rap. However, there still were problems with monotonous, predictable power ballads, worn-out freestyle dance songs (I liked freestyle up to about 1988, but it got dull afterward). And then there were a fair number of maudlin AC tunes (Mr. Bolton, I'm looking at you.)
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Post by matt on Dec 30, 2018 11:44:17 GMT -5
This topic has been discussed many times before. There are some cool ideas in your presentation, but it would be a tough sell to affiliates IF Premiere were to have any dealings with Cumulus. I don't think it would be lucrative enough. Turn on any classic hits station today and most songs on 80's stations play songs from 82-86. You really only hear on occasion songs from 1988-1989, as well as the 90's. Look at the current state of affairs on the number of unaired shows from 1979 in the Premiere offerings. If Casey held on with AT40 until the end of 1989, I think there would be more unaired shows from that year than any other year in the 80's. 1979 and 1989 were polarizing years of music for different reasons. I don't think " The Shadoe Years" would appeal to a large audience. Look what happened back in the day with certain affiliates opting for CT40 over AT40 starting in 1989. Shadoe was good in his own right, but he was not Casey Kasem. It is impossible to follow a legend. As much as I would also love to see it happen, it is not going to happen . The number of 1979 shows aired by Premiere in the 70s series has zero to do with the appeal of that year and is not at all related to the same reason 1988-89 wouldn't be played. The reason there have been far fewer shows aired from '79 to date is solely because no 1979 shows were offered until the end of the series' 4th year due Premiere's reluctance to air 4-hour shows (the 70s series started in January 2007; the first 1979 show wasn't played until November 2010, when Premiere decided to offer those shows with the first hour omitted), when there was only a 3-hour window slotted for the 70s series. If you look at the distribution of how the 70s years have been offered since then, it's all pretty equal across the board. (Full disclaimer -- I realize I'm replying to this over a year after it was posted.  ) |
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Post by Hervard on Dec 30, 2018 11:57:23 GMT -5
The number of 1979 shows aired by Premiere in the 70s series has zero to do with the appeal of that year and is not at all related to the same reason 1988-89 wouldn't be played. The reason there have been far fewer shows aired from '79 to date is solely because no 1979 shows were offered until the end of the series' 4th year due Premiere's reluctance to air 4-hour shows (the 70s series started in January 2007; the first 1979 show wasn't played until November 2010, when Premiere decided to offer those shows with the first hour omitted), when there was only a 3-hour window slotted for the 70s series. If you look at the distribution of how the 70s years have been offered since then, it's all pretty equal across the board. This is the very reason that I have a feeling that 1979 is not going to be exhausted until after 2020 (although I hope we hear more new shows from that year over the next two years). |
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