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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Jan 26, 2015 20:09:22 GMT -5
...was when the original run of AT40 was aired for the last time. It turned out that AT40 couldn't compete well against Casey Kasem's countdown, Casey's Top 40, and Rick Dees' Weekly Top 40. In my opinion, Casey Kasem really knew how to make the countdowns count.
Plus, pop music was experiencing a low-demand period during the mid-90s. In my opinion, there was hardly any good music during the mid-90s (oh, how I despise Hootie and the Blowfish, Collective Soul, Smashing Pumpkins, Toni Braxton, and all the (c)rap music that was quite popular) until around 1997, when pop music took a rebound in popularity, thanks to acts such as 98 Degrees, Backstreet Boys, and eventually N'Sync, Britney Spears, and a ton of others. The newer music was starting to become listenable again. Casey Kasem revived AT40 three years after the original run was cancelled, and the current run may experience a longer run the way it's going, even with Ryan Seacrest at the helm, and having Rick Dees as the only competition.
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Post by 80sat40fan on Jan 26, 2015 20:21:02 GMT -5
I enjoyed listening to both Shadoe and Casey from 1989 through 1991 but once Billboard switched chart methodology, I only listened to Casey's Top 40 starting in early 1992. Not recognizing a number of tunes on AT40 plus not liking a good majority of rap songs meant I was losing interest in AT40. Casey's show featured more pop songs and less rap, and it seemed like it was a more accurate chart even though Billboard was using the latest technology to create its charts. For me, it wasn't Shadow versus Casey, it was Billboard's chart methods which turned me off to Shadoe's show.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 26, 2015 20:47:26 GMT -5
I am with you oldschool that the mid 90s were a bad period. Definitely preferred the early and late 90s. And I abhor Hootie & the Blowfish too but do like Collective Soul and Smashing Pumpkins. Although I enjoy R&B as much as anyone on this board, Toni Braxton is not very high on my list either. Not into the boy bands either. What got things going for me in the late 90s were artists like Usher, Jennifer Lopez, Matchbox 20, Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah, No Doubt. But the mid 90s were quite boring and only rank higher than the rap-infested early 2000s among all the years that Casey was doing AT or CT40.
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Post by mkarns on Jan 26, 2015 21:41:06 GMT -5
...was when the original run of AT40 was aired for the last time. It turned out that AT40 couldn't compete well against Casey Kasem's countdown, Casey's Top 40, and Rick Dees' Weekly Top 40. In my opinion, Casey Kasem really knew how to make the countdowns count. Plus, pop music was experiencing a low-demand period during the mid-90s. In my opinion, there was hardly any good music during the mid-90s (oh, how I despise Hootie and the Blowfish, Collective Soul, Smashing Pumpkins, Toni Braxton, and all the (c)rap music that was quite popular) until around 1997, when pop music took a rebound in popularity, thanks to acts such as 98 Degrees, Backstreet Boys, and eventually N'Sync, Britney Spears, and a ton of others. The newer music was starting to become listenable again. Casey Kasem revived AT40 three years after the original run was cancelled, and the current run may experience a longer run the way it's going, even with Ryan Seacrest at the helm, and having Rick Dees as the only competition. To each their own. I don't think a bunch of soundalike boy bands improved the quality of music overall (even if they did help increase CHR ratings), though some of them went on to do better stuff (such as Justin Timberlake.) And I actually liked, then and now, the mid-1990s acts you dislike; I think by 1994-95 pop radio was improving in quality after a few overly AC-heavy years. However, I do confess to liking One Direction, maybe because there aren't five same-sounding acts on the current chart.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Jan 27, 2015 8:15:48 GMT -5
I'm in the minority saying the popular music of the 1990's was much better as a whole than the pop music of the 1980's. The real problem was pop radio did not want to present it that way. When you got so many stations saying they only play or don't a specific type or genre of music, you can't get an accurate picture what people were really responding to. The mentality of pop radio in the 1990's was very similar to what it was in the 1950's.
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Post by michaelcasselman on Jan 27, 2015 8:47:06 GMT -5
I stuck with AT40 until October '93, but those last two years were painful trying to reconcile the ever-changing methodology and charts used by the show. Where at one time Shadoe and the team involved had hit their stride (I still have old mix tapes containing dozens of the in-house medleys they would produce to highlight chart feats, stories and similiar song-titles), once they switched charts, I felt it lost it's 'lineage' to the AT40 of 1970-1991, and obviously to the main Hot 100 from which the chart records on AT40 could refer to. I even have a couple of tapes with nothing but the AT40 Flashbacks, which were still based on the 'old' charts. Looking back through some of the charts of those last couple years of AT40, I still see a decent mix of genres... and a couple of my local stations still rotate a fair dose of those early-90's hits that take me back to my college years.
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Post by at40fansince1984 on Jan 28, 2015 1:41:38 GMT -5
I found a clip of the intro & outro of the show (love the "happy Trail outro). Would love to hear the whole show it's too bad they couldn't play it or at least play it on the iHeart channel (since they play a 90's show anyway). But I do agree that I liked it better when they used the Hot 100.
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Post by tarobe on Jan 31, 2015 5:27:29 GMT -5
I have the show and listened to it Wednesday. Hard to believe "Interstate Love Song" is over 20 years old!
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Post by Hervard on Jan 31, 2015 7:43:35 GMT -5
Sort of off-topic - ten years before that was another red letter date in the world of music. It was the day of the final recording session for "We Are The World" by USA For Africa.
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Post by johnnywest on Jan 28, 2019 8:49:12 GMT -5
January 28, 1995 was probably the most depressing Shadoe show I ever heard. November 30, 1991 was sad but for a different reason.
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Post by retrodaddy on Jan 28, 2019 9:06:49 GMT -5
I'm in the minority saying the popular music of the 1990's was much better as a whole than the pop music of the 1980's. The real problem was pop radio did not want to present it that way. When you got so many stations saying they only play or don't a specific type or genre of music, you can't get an accurate picture what people were really responding to. The mentality of pop radio in the 1990's was very similar to what it was in the 1950's. I prefer 80s pop music but agree about what pop stations were playing and excluding in the 90s.
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Post by at40nut on Jan 28, 2019 10:20:29 GMT -5
I totally agree that popular music took a nose dive in the mid 90's. I was primarily a hard rock/alternative fan at that time. 1992-1994 were the best years of 90's music on all fronts from alternative, rap, country etc. It seemed very copy cat to me when Hootie & The Blowfish just wasn't enough. We needed Collective Soul, Gin Blossoms, Goo Goo Dolls, Live etc._. Then there was the Euro Dance craze with Ace Of Base, Real McCoy, Culture Beat, La Bouche etc._ Boyz II Men wasn't enough when we had All 4 One, 4PM etc._ Everyone copied one another to the point where you could not tell them apart. 1996 and beyond, a lot of my favorite bands were releasing lackluster albums such as STP's "Tiny Music", Pearl Jam's "No Code" (I still refuse to listen to Pearl Jam post 1994), Metallica cut their hair and released "Load" and "Re-Load". IMO, alternative/grunge died the day Kurt Cobain committed suicide-That ended it for me.
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