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Post by woolebull on Sept 22, 2014 17:18:25 GMT -5
I don't think we've answered this question, but I noted a year or so ago that "Into The Night" by Benny Mardones did not hit the R and R Top 40 during its second run in 1989. It made it all the way up to number 20 in 1989 which I would think would make it the highest charting single on Billboard, in the 1980's after 1982 or 1983, to not hit R and R.
Except...it really doesn't count because the song did chart on R and R during its first run in 1980 (actually making the Top 5). So "Into The Night" can't hold the distinction by technicality (I mean we are talking 9 years)
So what are some of the highest charting songs on AT 40 in the 1980's that did not hit R and R's Top 40, particularly after 1983 or so.
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Post by johnnywest on Sept 22, 2014 20:35:14 GMT -5
The first one that comes to mind is "Me So Horny" from 1989. I think it hit #26 in Billboard but missed R&R.
Even though "The Star Spangled Banner" was from 1991, it was still before the Soundscan Era. It hit #20 but didn't chart in R&R.
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Post by freakyflybry on Sept 22, 2014 20:49:29 GMT -5
The highest charting in the 1984-89 time frame that didn't hit R&R would have to be "Do They Know It's Christmas?"
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Post by ds on Sept 22, 2014 20:54:35 GMT -5
The first one that comes to mind is "Me So Horny" from 1989. I think it hit #26 in Billboard but missed R&R. exactly the one I was thinking of. I imagine if there was one higher it would be a rap song or maybe a country song which would benefit from the sales numbers in billboard. edit: I take that back, band aid is probably the winner. |
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Post by mkarns on Sept 22, 2014 20:57:49 GMT -5
Though it's from 1980, Stevie Wonder's "Master Blaster" hit #5 in Billboard/AT40 but never made Radio & Records at all. R&R was only a top 30 then, so it might have made the top 40 there if it existed, but even #5 vs. #31 is a pretty egregious discrepancy, especially for a popular and long-established artist.
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Post by ds on Sept 22, 2014 22:04:58 GMT -5
From late 1982 (peaked Feb 1983), Eddie rabbitt and crystal Gayle got to #7 on billboard with "you and I" but didn't chart r&r.
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Post by woolebull on Sept 22, 2014 23:22:39 GMT -5
Though it's from 1980, Stevie Wonder's "Master Blaster" hit #5 in Billboard/AT40 but never made Radio & Records at all. R&R was only a top 30 then, so it might have made the top 40 there if it existed, but even #5 vs. #31 is a pretty egregious discrepancy, especially for a popular and long-established artist. Didn't "Let It Whip" do the same thing? |
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Post by davewollenberg on Sept 27, 2014 13:17:33 GMT -5
1 I seem to remember is Deniece Williams' 'It's gonna take a miracle'. Niecy hit #10 pop in Billboard, but didn't chart pop at all, in R&R.
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Post by adam31 on Sept 27, 2014 13:37:10 GMT -5
This thread gives proof why the R&R chart was a POS.
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Post by davewollenberg on Sept 27, 2014 13:52:09 GMT -5
Adam, what's 'POS' mean?
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Post by artsmusic on Sept 27, 2014 16:10:55 GMT -5
In deference to the sanctity of the board, perhaps POS can be googled. Skip the definition that shows "point of sale".
Is it possible that R&R had a chart policy where they would consider Into the Night a recurrent and thus not eligible to chart? Billboard's had many, many different such rules.
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Post by Hervard on Sept 27, 2014 17:21:52 GMT -5
I do know that "Twilight Zone", a #10 song on Billboard, never even made it to New & Active in R&R, meaning that, even if the chart did go down to 40, it still would not have made it. I'm pretty sure the other songs mentioned during R&R's Top 30 era did make the New & Active list, so they probably would have made the Top 40.
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Post by woolebull on Sept 27, 2014 18:11:54 GMT -5
I do know that "Twilight Zone", a #10 song on Billboard, never even made it to New & Active in R&R, meaning that, even if the chart did go down to 40, it still would not have made it. I'm pretty sure the other songs mentioned during R&R's Top 30 era did make the New & Active list, so they probably would have made the Top 40. Of all the things I have ever read on here, this might be the single most outstanding thing I've ever read. "Twilight Zone" was not considered one of the 40 most played songs on radio...AT ALL...during its run?!? Did The Netherlands ban R and R from its country in 1981 or something to have that kind of omission? |
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Sept 28, 2014 12:09:04 GMT -5
Is it possible that R&R had a chart policy where they would consider Into the Night a recurrent and thus not eligible to chart? Billboard's had many, many different such rules. I'm pretty sure they did. If the song wasn't actively being promoted by the label, they wouldn't rechart it. If I remember correctly, the same rule kept old songs from re-entering the chart in 2001 after 9/11. |
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Post by woolebull on Sept 29, 2014 0:45:14 GMT -5
Is it possible that R&R had a chart policy where they would consider Into the Night a recurrent and thus not eligible to chart? Billboard's had many, many different such rules. I'm pretty sure they did. If the song wasn't actively being promoted by the label, they wouldn't rechart it. If I remember correctly, the same rule kept old songs from re-entering the chart in 2001 after 9/11. But "Into The Night" was being promoted, at least some version of the single. Benny even recorded a new version. That same year Sheriff wasn't even a group and they went to number one with a reissue. But I'm with you, something had to have held it back. We talked about it before and some people contend that they never really heard the song. I personally heard it quite a bit in 1989. I can't imagine it didn't have enough airplay to have cracked the Top 40. |
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