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Post by chadstevens on Aug 25, 2014 18:10:38 GMT -5
(First, long time reader first time poster. Long-time fan of AT40 who had a question answered on air* by Casey - the highlight of my life up to that point. My on-air name is a sideways tribute to Shadoe as well.)
I know that there were many other countdown shows airing that competed with AT40. I wonder what chart sources they used. Specifically Dees, Dick Clark, Countdown America with John Leader (who was replaced by Clark at some point I believe), Scott Shannon's Rockin' America, and Top 30 USA with M.G. Kelly.
I'm also wondering if there were countdowns in other countries that were distributed by syndication to independent broadcasters. That is, NOT aired on a nationwide government broadcaster like the BBC.
* Q) What were the longest and shortest #1 songs by duration? A) Longest: American Pie, Shortest - Stay Answered on air around 1985-ish, would love to know the exact date.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 18:54:36 GMT -5
Dees: 83-85 - Cashbox, 86-05 I guess - R&R/Mediabase Now it's a compilation of their affiliates I think.
Scott Shannon - Radio & Records
Countdown America w/John Leader: Radio & Records
I believe these are correct. Someone might have more definitive dates on Dees. I know at one point he switched to a rhythmic chart for a little while but I think it was still R&R.
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Post by dukelightning on Aug 25, 2014 19:21:48 GMT -5
(First, long time reader first time poster. Long-time fan of AT40 who had a question answered on air* by Casey - the highlight of my life up to that point. My on-air name is a sideways tribute to Shadoe as well.) I know that there were many other countdown shows airing that competed with AT40. I wonder what chart sources they used. Specifically Dees, Dick Clark, Countdown America with John Leader (who was replaced by Clark at some point I believe), Scott Shannon's Rockin' America, and Top 30 USA with M.G. Kelly. I'm also wondering if there were countdowns in other countries that were distributed by syndication to independent broadcasters. That is, NOT aired on a nationwide government broadcaster like the BBC. * Q) What were the longest and shortest #1 songs by duration? A) Longest: American Pie, Shortest - Stay Answered on air around 1985-ish, would love to know the exact date.
Exact date was 5/18/85. Welcome to the board. In going on 4 years on this board, you are the first person other than myself who has had a question answered on AT40. Mine was in 1978. Guess all the other people who had questions answered went in a different direction that has nothing to do with AT40.
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Post by mkarns on Aug 25, 2014 19:50:39 GMT -5
Dees: 83-85 - Cashbox, 86-05 I guess - R&R/Mediabase Now it's a compilation of their affiliates I think. Scott Shannon - Radio & Records Countdown America w/John Leader: Radio & Records I believe these are correct. Someone might have more definitive dates on Dees. I know at one point he switched to a rhythmic chart for a little while but I think it was still R&R. Rick used Cashbox from 1983-January 1985, when he switched to Radio & Records. There was a time about 1995-96 when he used a more rhythmic oriented chart, but I don't think it was a strictly rhythmic one from the shows from that period I've heard; it was based on pop radio airplay but had some more rhythmic singles added that were selling well but not in the R&R CHR top 40. He didn't follow R&R strictly starting in 1994 at the latest.
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Post by mytwocents on Aug 25, 2014 20:23:55 GMT -5
(First, long time reader first time poster. Long-time fan of AT40 who had a question answered on air* by Casey - the highlight of my life up to that point. My on-air name is a sideways tribute to Shadoe as well.) [ . . . ] * Q) What were the longest and shortest #1 songs by duration? A) Longest: American Pie, Shortest - Stay Answered on air around 1985-ish, would love to know the exact date.Exact date was 5/18/85. Welcome to the board. In going on 4 years on this board, you are the first person other than myself who has had a question answered on AT40. Mine was in 1978. Guess all the other people who had questions answered went in a different direction that has nothing to do with AT40. "The club" is larger than you think -- I, too, sent in a question letter to Casey back in the day, and had my name read on air during an AT40 program! I'd long forgotten the exact date until the Internet Age allowed me to pore through the cue sheets at Charis -- and my question was much more common than Chad's or Neal's (dukelightning's); it had been asked before and would be asked again (and in fact, I was one of three people Casey named on this particular go-round as having written in with it)... On February 25th, 1984 (not yet aired by Premiere!), between #22 and #21 in the countdown, we asked, "What is the lowest position from which a song sprang into the number one position the following week?" (In the teaser, Casey mentioned the 26-notch leap and noted that "the flip side of the song was titled 'You Can't Do That'!") Of course, the answer was "Can't Buy Me Love" by The Beatles, moving from #27 to #1 that famous week of April 4th, 1964... By the way, over the three and a half years that I've myself been first-lurking, later-posting to this forum, I'm fairly certain that I've come across at least one, maybe two other references to forum members besides present company who have had a question letter read on AT40 -- one fellow reported having written very early on, circa 1971, saluting the letter "Dear C.K.," which caused Casey to respond with the fellow's initials in kind; I have no idea which thread or how far back or in what context... Incidentally, Chad, the May 18th, 1985 show was aired by Premiere in 2007 and again in 2008, long enough ago that it could be due for a repeat in 2015...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 20:52:24 GMT -5
I know a few people on here have had dedications read.
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Post by rayshae3 on Aug 26, 2014 2:20:00 GMT -5
May 30, 1981-March 12, 1983 Dick Clark’s National Music Survey used Cash Box, it then switched to R&R. Before this time “Countdown America w/John Leader” was the only show that featured Radio and Records CHR chart. June 79-January 82: Drake-Chenault Weekly Top 30 w/Mark Elliott-Hybrid chart using Billboard, Cashbox, Record World and Variety. March 1976-82?: National Album Countdown w/Humble Harve (Westwood one) using Record World Top 30 album chart.
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Post by chadstevens on Aug 26, 2014 18:43:53 GMT -5
Exact date was 5/18/85. Welcome to the board. In going on 4 years on this board, you are the first person other than myself who has had a question answered on AT40. Mine was in 1978. Guess all the other people who had questions answered went in a different direction that has nothing to do with AT40. What impressed me most was that Casey pronounced my last name right. I had mailed in a question to AT40 earlier - forgot what it was - and got a postcard in reply thanking me for my interest. Then I sent in the shortest/longest question and it was months, possibly over a year before it was read. By which time I had totally forgotten about sending it in.
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Post by briguy52748 on Sept 25, 2014 8:09:11 GMT -5
I know that several country music radio programs used other charts. To the best of my knowledge, these included:
• October 1981-c. 2001: "Chris Charles' Weekly Country Music Countdown." Used Radio & Records throughout its run.
• January 1984-June 1987: "Country Music's Top Ten" (I think that was the title), with Charlie Cook and a female artist whose name I don't know. This is NOT to be confused with Crook & Chase, who also have a countdown. I believe this came from Westwood One; this was a one-hour only show with the top 10 hits of the week; plus, they played a "pick hit" (a song that had just debuted on the charts, often the highest of the week on R&R), featured artist interviews and spotlighted a song that was in the top 10 exactly one year earlier (often a No. 1 hit). There was a spiritual successor the week after this program's final show (the week of June 27, 1987) that ran until Lon Helton's "Country Countdown USA" debuted. I don't know what became of the female disc jockey; Cook is host of "On the Road," the weekly program featuring live performances by country music's top artists and country music news.
Speaking of which …
• January 1992-current: "Crook & Chase Countdown," which currently uses Mediabase. Another longtime user of Radio & Records. This is the one by the longtime country music personalities Charlie Crook and Lorianne Chase, who have been hosting since 1983 and are long overdue for the Country Music Hall of Fame.
• April 1992-current: "Country Countdown USA," which used Radio & Records from 1992-2006, Mediabase from 2006 to a few years later, when Helton began using Country Aircheck.
… and of course:
• January 2006-current: "Bob Kingsley's Country Top 40," which has used Radio and Records during its early months, and Mediabase since.
As we all know, "American Country Countdown" began with Billboard, using it from its 1973 debut – Kix Brooks, at one point, was sure to mention each week that ACC was the only radio countdown show licensed to use Billboard – but switched to Mediabase in August 2009.
Brian
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Post by donwa001 on Sept 27, 2014 23:54:19 GMT -5
Never submitted a question to AT 40 but I did send in a Long Distance Dedication. It never was never read on air. I had asked for "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" - The Hollies to be played.
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Post by rayshae3 on Sept 28, 2014 7:13:57 GMT -5
As we all know, "American Country Countdown" began with Billboard, using it from its 1973 debut – Kix Brooks, at one point, was sure to mention each week that ACC was the only radio countdown show licensed to use Billboard – but switched to Mediabase in August 2009. There was a show that aired on the radio called, ” Billboard Hot Dance Countdown” between 2002 and 2006 and used the BB Dance Club chart. This countdown was produced in a shorter 2-hour as well as a 4-hour version, and later on even had a Spanish-version (geared towards the Hispanic stations) in addition to its standard English-language version. The countdown show debuted on the weekend of Sep. 28/29, 2002. From issue Sep. 14, 2002, p. 97, here’s a long link: books.google.ca/books?id=_AwEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA97&lpg=PA97&dq=%22billboard+hot+dance+countdown%22&source=bl&ots=BVUjB1-Tyh&sig=L5Sb9ogjj_f9WiKk4_aNTUwk1U8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cOgnVL-SO9aryAT42IHoAQ&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22billboard%20hot%20dance%20countdown%22&f=falseMore info with the show’s logo at: jasmineway.com/music.htmIn addition, R&R was the source of a couple of other formatted chart shows as well: “The Countdown” (2-hours) hosted by the longtime Radio and Records R&B-page editor Walt ‘Baby’ Love featuring the Top 25 portion of the chart, aired between Aug. 1982 and Sep. 2011. Later it had even an Urban AC version. Also there was a chart show that debuted around 1986 called “Rock Watch” (United Stations), three hours Top 30 countdown show using R&R Rock Tracks Chart. It aired on top markets, among them K-ROCK/New York, WYSP/Philadelphia and WBCN/Boston.
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Post by rayshae3 on Oct 8, 2014 4:13:22 GMT -5
I know that several country music radio programs used other charts. To the best of my knowledge, these included: • October 1981-c. 2001: "Chris Charles' Weekly Country Music Countdown." Used Radio & Records throughout its run. • January 1984-June 1987: "Country Music's Top Ten" (I think that was the title), with Charlie Cook and a female artist whose name I don't know. This is NOT to be confused with Crook & Chase, who also have a countdown. I believe this came from Westwood One; this was a one-hour only show with the top 10 hits of the week; plus, they played a "pick hit" (a song that had just debuted on the charts, often the highest of the week on R&R), featured artist interviews and spotlighted a song that was in the top 10 exactly one year earlier (often a No. 1 hit). There was a spiritual successor the week after this program's final show (the week of June 27, 1987) that ran until Lon Helton's "Country Countdown USA" debuted. I don't know what became of the female disc jockey; Cook is host of "On the Road," the weekly program featuring live performances by country music's top artists and country music news. Speaking of which … • January 1992-current: "Crook & Chase Countdown," which currently uses Mediabase. Another longtime user of Radio & Records. This is the one by the longtime country music personalities Charlie Crook and Lorianne Chase, who have been hosting since 1983 and are long overdue for the Country Music Hall of Fame. • April 1992-current: "Country Countdown USA," which used Radio & Records from 1992-2006, Mediabase from 2006 to a few years later, when Helton began using Country Aircheck. … and of course: • January 2006-current: "Bob Kingsley's Country Top 40," which has used Radio and Records during its early months, and Mediabase since. As we all know, "American Country Countdown" began with Billboard, using it from its 1973 debut – Kix Brooks, at one point, was sure to mention each week that ACC was the only radio countdown show licensed to use Billboard – but switched to Mediabase in August 2009. Brian Furthermore, in addition to what Brian said, according to the following Billboard article, besides ACC and “Weekly Country Music Countdown” there were at least three other country chart shows already on the air by December 1981 : -“Nashville Record Review” (Opryland Radio Productions/one hour, it started in January 1981 originally with a single host Al Risen, but it expanded to 4-hours in 1988 and by that time Crook and Chase had been hosting the show.; Then in December 1995-by this time produced by TNNRadio- a new duo took over from Crook and Chase, Katy Haas and Bill Cody). “The Crook and Chase Country Countdown” (produced by Jim Owens & Associates syndicators), though, didn’t start until January 1996. -“Country Report Countdown”(Weedeck Corp/four hours./Hosts: Ron Martin and Nancy Plum, started in summer 1980, changed hosts when John Driscoll joined the show in late 87/early 88 ) and -“Country Star Countdown”/three hours”(RKO). It was hosted on a rotating basis by Kenny Rogers, Larry Gatlin, Ronnie Milsap, Dottie West, Loretta Lynn, Merle Haggard, Charlie Price, Eddie Rabbitt, Barbara Mandrell and Mac Davis, and other country biggies from the early 80s. For more on these here’s the link to this 1981 long article that includes references to Casey’s AT40 and later even talks about a monthly Country TV show called “Country’s Top 20” (R&R-based hosted by Dennis Weaver of “Gunsmoke” and “McCloud” fame) books.google.ca/books?id=DSQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT12&lpg=PT12&dq=%22weekly+country+music+countdown%22+1981&source=bl&ots=tAxnYp8lSq&sig=7eLIs3nJYKaoR0GUd4Y0_iwRphU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1NY0VN3iCIT4yQSEq4LoDQ&ved=0CBwQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=%22weekly%20country%20music%20countdown%22%201981&f=trueBTW, I also like to mention other countdown shows that used R&R’s charts here that I missed: Blockbuster Top 25 Countdown with Leeza Gibbons (started in December 1994) Later it was reduced to a Top 20, it stopped in 2001. Using mainstream AC with a Hot AC edition too. Rock Album Countdown (WW1): Tracks from R&R’s Top 20 Rock Album chart; two hours (from around 1982-1985?).
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