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Post by keithr63 on Jan 11, 2020 11:46:26 GMT -5
KOKZ January 7,1978
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Post by chrislc on Jan 12, 2020 21:18:24 GMT -5
I was listening yesterday to a show from late February 1973 on Archive Org. Casey began the show saying that there were "five fresh songs" entering the Top 40.
The first fresh song at #40 was the one about a dead skunk. The joke didn't seem intentional but maybe it was. Or maybe the writers intended the joke and Casey just read the script without thinking about what he was reading.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 13, 2020 16:17:25 GMT -5
A few of us are listening to many or eventually all of the shows in the time that Casey was doing CHR countdowns. And those CHR shows consist of those that Casey was mentioned in some form or another...either by himself, or by a guest host saying that he was guest hosting for Casey or in a Shadoe Stevens show where he or a guest host mentioned Casey(and Don Bustany) in the closing as the creators of AT40. And with the show I am hearing now, I have heard all 42 such CHR shows that were the first of that year. 42 first shows of the year on AT40 or CT40 in the Casey era starting in 1970 and ending with the last CHR show he did that was the first show in 2004(regular shows btw). This one is the CT40 from 1/8/94. 5 debuts and my fave is the second one, "I Love Music" by Rosalla. One of my fave covers of all time. Love the original from 1976 and this one very nearly as much. "Cantaloop" is another debut combining rap and Jazz as Casey said. Has to be the first such combination in a top 40 hit. I see the 'If featuring' thread is being posted on today. The first R&D is such a song, "I'll be There" by Mariah Carey featuring Trey Lorenz. More later...
Casey told a story about how classical music made you smarter. Said that people who listened to classical music before taking a test had higher grades than people who listened to other types of music or no music at all. But in the study it was noted that the effect only lasted abut 15 minutes. Another reason for answering the test questions as quickly as you can! There is a poster here who has the Sweet 98 logo as the avatar. That station was mentioned by Casey in his station mentions.
Casey told a story of how Michael Bolton was continually blasted by critics. One comment was that 'he was the sledgehammer of pop; never meeting a song he could not pulverize'. Bolton was told by his manager to read an article written in 1951 about Yankee rookie Mickey Mantle that said he was an oaf that would only last a season to two. He lasted 18 seasons and 536 home runs! Not a huge fan of Bolton myself but I do like his then current hit maybe the most of his hits..."Said I Loved You But I Lied". I think there was a production error whereby in the beginning of the story, Casey mentioned that he had this week's #1. He had the #1 on the AC chart but not the pop chart and never did with this song. I think they had the same story told on the AC show and forgot to edit in a story specifically for the CHR show. Probably happened several times over the years where they put the story for one genre's show into another genre's show, especially starting in November 1994 when Casey was doing 3 shows every week.
I am going to have to check this out on youtube to see if there was another production error. "Can We Talk" ran an incredible 6 minutes but they may have gotten it that long by repeating the second verse. But maybe that is the way it is done on the album version which even though it is a big fave of mine, I cannot remember ever hearing to know off the top of my head. Former #1 R&B hit at #4 as Casey said and back to back with another former #1 R&B hit at #3, "Breathe Again". And that ran even longer at 6:40. Wow nearly 13 minutes for just 2 songs. That may be a CT40 record! And the current #1 R&B hit is "Hero" which holds its #1 position on CT40. In between yet another long song "Please Forgive Me" at 5 minutes but I think it has run longer in other shows. For "Hero" Casey said it was #1 for the 4th time instead of week. That is different from his days hosting AT40 when he always said week. Reason has to be the frozen weeks(2). Chose not to give it credit for those weeks since it would have been the 6th week at #1 if he had. Which I disagree with btw. Any song at #1 before and after the frozen week(s) should be given credit for it. Guess they thought 2 weeks was too much to give a song credit for.
Update: Yes that was a manufactured version of "Can We Talk". Longest version is less than 5 minutes. No complaints. It is a great song!
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 13, 2020 22:41:11 GMT -5
^ Listening to that segment right now. That is my fave Tevin song too. I have the "I'm Ready" CD, and the song is 4:44 on the album. The radio edit is around 4:14, I think.
Sure enough, second verse repeated. And it is the album version. Come on, that only happens in AT40 2.0!!! 😂😂😂
Go figure...at #40 in that show is a debut, Haddaway's "Life (Everybody Needs Somebody To Love)". Well, guess what...the second verse was edited out...in its debut week, no less. Guess they had too much time in hour 1, and extra time to fill in hour 4.
I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around these songs being TWENTY-SIX years old. Time just goes way too fast...
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 14, 2020 14:53:43 GMT -5
Casey's Countdown year-end for 1993. Almost to the halfway point.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 14, 2020 16:08:11 GMT -5
I wonder how that happens that they end up playing a manufactured version of that song..."Can We Talk". I assume that in 1994 unlike 1971 AT40, CT40 is not on shoestring budget and thus, has all the albums that include the hits in the countdown in addition to the 45s or cassette/CD singles. And knowing that they had an extra minute plus to fill in hour 4, why not play one of those longer album versions of a song? And one of those as I suspected was "Please Forgive Me". Played the single version running 5 minutes but the album version is about 6 minutes and while it was not played on the few shows that I spot checked, I thought said version was played at some point. That would have given them the minute or so they needed to fill. On to the next show and it is the AT40 from 1/14/89. The last show Shadoe did before Casey's Top 40 started. Some data behind why it was the following week. The first CT40 from 1/21/89 was based on the second R&R CHR chart of 1989. So why did Casey wait until that week to do the show you may ask? When Casey was let go as AT40 host, ABC had him sign an agreement whereby he would not be on the air for 5 months. The exact date was Jan. 17, 1989. So he had to wait until the weekend corresponding to the second R&R chart of the year. In a perfect world, Hall & Oates do not guest host the 7/30/88 show, Casey does that show for his last one on AT40 at the time and that allows him to start CT40 with the first R&R chart of 1989 with the show date of 1/14/89. Oh well. Question was asked who were the oldest man and woman to hit the top 10. Oldest woman was a year ago when Dusty Springfield did so with the Pep Shop Boys at the age of 48. Oldest man was actor Walter Brennan at the age of 67 in 1962. He told a story about Tom Jones being the most successful British solo artist in the 60s, playing clips of a couple of his top 10 hits. Then played a clip of his #1 country and last AT40 hit "Say You Stay Until Tomorrow" from 1977. Not sure what is more surprising, his genre change to country then or his cover with the Art of Noise of "Kiss" at that time. A song whose next top 40 version was one of the droppers in the previous show I heard from 1994 is in this countdown, "Wild World" by Maxi Priest. Mr. Big did the version that had charted in late 1993. Cat Stevens did the original version in 1971. Neither version is a fave of mine however. Then Shadoe did a great tribute to the recently deceased Roy Orbison. Said he was a rock and roller with an operatic voice, a range of 3 octaves. That he was the only artist who Elvis would not follow on stage because of how much he admired Roy. The Beatles opened for him in 1963 in Europe. And they played a montage of over 10 of his hits, some of which I did not know. One of those was "Blue Bayou". As many times as I have heard that song by Linda Ronstadt, I did not know the original was done by him. Don't think Casey ever played a clip of it either as he often times did. Kenny G has to be the last artist to have multiple instrumental hits. "Silhouette" is a good one. Saxophone is always pleasant to my ears. Another great sax song is "I Remember Holding You". I am adding a comment in the jinx thread after the story told before that song. Not too many shows with 2 montages especially regular shows but this one has 2 of them. Heard one in tribute to Roy Orbison earlier. And just before #2 is another one that was about twice as long. Shadoe mentioned the artists who have sung on the most top 40 hits in the 80s. Daryl Hall was third with 22, MJ was second with 23 and Phil Collins had 24. Played a montage of the first 23. "Two Hearts" is the 24th and "Another Day in Paradise" will be his 25th later in the year. New #1 is "My Prerogative".
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 16, 2020 12:48:23 GMT -5
A show that is not from this time of the year. I will bounce around a bit because January is a month where I have more time to hear shows what with activities being limited this time of the year. So while I have heard 7 of the 9 AT40 and CT40 shows from January 1993, I have heard only 1 of the 8 shows from June 1992 for example. So I am listening to the AT40 from 6/13/92. Starts with an unusual chart action as "I'm Walkin" which debuted the previous week at 38 drops to 40. That never happened when they used the Hot 100 IIRC. And that was a decent hit so it must have rebounded back up the chart a bit. The summer song of 1992 traded places with it as "Life is a Highway" went from 40 to 38. Then what has to be a first for me. To have a song from a greatest hits album that I did not know neither did I know the artist. It was "Maria" by TKA. Shadoe said they had several hits in New York which is why they had a greatest hits album out. That also dropped 2 after debuting last week...35 to 37. Then Shadoe mentioned several acts who were known by initials since two such artists were back to back, TKA and TLC. TKA stands for the initials of the first names in that band and also Total Knowledge in Action. Of course TLC also stands for the first names of the ladies in that group. More to come...
Btw TKA never made it to CT40. Shadoe did the music news segment and had good news and bad news about Milli Vanilli. They said their new album was coming out and vowed that it would be their voices singing. Of course we never heard those voices since their ship had sailed and sunk. That last one is my comment btw!
Would not think I could find out something hearing a flashback but I did when Shadoe did the top 5 from this week in 1976. Sir Paul had the #1 song with "Silly Love Songs"(think it returned to the top that week) but found out that McCartney toured the US in 1976 for the first time in 10 years. Knew the Beatles packed it in a couple years after their breakthrough but did not realize Paul had not toured America since forming Wings.
Good story on the career of Bob Dylan. Played a clip of "Like a Rolling Stone" as his most well known hit along with "Blowing in the Wind" that he wrote for Peter, Paul & Mary. Did this before playing "Steel Bars" which he cowrote with Michael Bolton. Did not know that. Followed by TLC which was the third TLC in the countdown....2 songs by them and the song "TLC".
Played a clip of Rose Royce's "Wishing on a Star" from 1978. Said it reached #52 on the R&B chart. Great song by the Cover Girls. One of those songs that surprises you that it flopped originally.
New record according to Shadoe for weeks in the top 5 was just set by "Save the Best for Last" at 14 weeks. Old record was 13 weeks for "You Light up My Life". Of course these types of records are starting to fall like flies since the chart and methodology change.
And the record for fastest climb to #1 on AT40 is tied when "I'll Be There" reaches the top in its third week. Tied the record set by "Black or White" 6 months earlier. Of course MJ sang that as he did the original of There. Black's record though is questionable since its first week on AT40 was based on the Hot 100 and its second and third week was based on the Hot 100 Airplay chart IIRC as they had made the chart change then. So Mariah's song is the first to do so using the same chart for all 3 weeks. And it features Trey Lorenz for those of you that like to track such things. No mention by Shadoe however. Btw, Mariah had set the AT40 record for the highest debut when it entered at #4.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 17, 2020 13:04:31 GMT -5
The first weekly show of the 1980s...AT40 from 1/12/1980, with Mike Cleary guest-hosting. Very interesting show. First off, he mentions chart movements based on the 1/5/1980 chart, which as we all know, wasn't counted down due to the Top 50 Of The 1970s special aired that weekend. (To which I'm sure some are relieved that they won't ever hear "Please Don't Go" announced at #1...LOL! ) Many weekly shows coming off the year-end countdowns don't mention the chart movements (but this one does), some of which include a chart not counted down, which may throw off some listeners. I'm still early in hour #2. Great stories on Supertramp, "turntable turkeys" (car stereo tech), and more to come.
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Post by chrislc on Jan 18, 2020 0:27:26 GMT -5
The first weekly show of the 1980s...AT40 from 1/12/1980, with Mike Cleary guest-hosting. Very interesting show. First off, he mentions chart movements based on the 1/5/1980 chart, which as we all know, wasn't counted down due to the Top 50 Of The 1970s special aired that weekend. (To which I'm sure some are relieved that they won't ever hear "Please Don't Go" announced at #1...LOL! ) Many weekly shows coming off the year-end countdowns don't mention the chart movements (but this one does), some of which include a chart not counted down, which may throw off some listeners. I'm still early in hour #2. Great stories on Supertramp, "turntable turkeys" (car stereo tech), and more to come. Some listeners might have considered the choice of #1 songs on that weekend a no-win situation!
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Post by mkarns on Jan 18, 2020 0:32:59 GMT -5
The first weekly show of the 1980s...AT40 from 1/12/1980, with Mike Cleary guest-hosting. Very interesting show. First off, he mentions chart movements based on the 1/5/1980 chart, which as we all know, wasn't counted down due to the Top 50 Of The 1970s special aired that weekend. (To which I'm sure some are relieved that they won't ever hear "Please Don't Go" announced at #1...LOL! ) Many weekly shows coming off the year-end countdowns don't mention the chart movements (but this one does), some of which include a chart not counted down, which may throw off some listeners. I'm still early in hour #2. Great stories on Supertramp, "turntable turkeys" (car stereo tech), and more to come. Though Cleary at least did start the show with the top 3 of 1/5/80, with Please Don't Go at #1. By contrast, one year later Casey began the January 10, 1981 countdown by replaying the top 3 on the 1980 year end show, not the top 3 on the last Billboard chart (12/27/80, frozen for another week) which he never counted down because of the year-ender.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 18, 2020 8:28:29 GMT -5
The first weekly show of the 1980s...AT40 from 1/12/1980, with Mike Cleary guest-hosting. Very interesting show. First off, he mentions chart movements based on the 1/5/1980 chart, which as we all know, wasn't counted down due to the Top 50 Of The 1970s special aired that weekend. (To which I'm sure some are relieved that they won't ever hear "Please Don't Go" announced at #1...LOL! ) Many weekly shows coming off the year-end countdowns don't mention the chart movements (but this one does), some of which include a chart not counted down, which may throw off some listeners. I'm still early in hour #2. Great stories on Supertramp, "turntable turkeys" (car stereo tech), and more to come. Though Cleary at least did start the show with the top 3 of 1/5/80, with Please Don't Go at #1. By contrast, one year later Casey began the January 10, 1981 countdown by replaying the top 3 on the 1980 year end show, not the top 3 on the last Billboard chart (12/27/80, frozen for another week) which he never counted down because of the year-ender. Yeah, good point...I failed to mention that. This was in the middle of the period when the previous chart's top 3 was played in full, until 2/14/1981, when just #1 was played (but Casey still mentioned what #3 and #2 was). The recap portion remained an opening feature, but not always playing the songs that were there. Ryan just plays pieces of them now (which I like).
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 18, 2020 9:18:27 GMT -5
While on the top 3 recap topic, I'll list the first weekly show after the year-end countdown for every year in the classic AT40 era, beginning with 1980, since the practice began with the 2/24/1979 show. Casey also wouldn't host many of these; in fact, 1981 was the only year he did host the regular show coming off the year-end during this period. (Not so much in the 70s, but that period doesn't apply here.)
1980 (Mike Cleary): Played top 3 of 1/5/1980, chart movements mentioned
1981 (Casey Kasem): Played top 3 of 1980 top 100, chart movements mentioned
1982 (Bob Eubanks): Played top 3 of 12/26/1981, general chart movements mentioned
1983 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played top 3 of 12/18/1982, chart movements mentioned
1984 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played #1, mentioned #3 and #2 (from 12/24/1983), chart movements mentioned
1985 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played #1, mentioned #3 and #2 (from 12/22/1984), chart movements mentioned
1986 (Charlie Van Dyke): Mentioned top 3 from 12/28/1985, chart movements mentioned
1987 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played top 3 from 12/27/1986, chart movements mentioned
1988 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played #1 from 1987 top 100, mentioned #3 and #2, chart movements mentioned from 12/26/1987
1989 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned top 3 from 12/24/1988, chart movements mentioned
1990 (Shadoe Stevens): No mention of top 3, chart movements mentioned
1991 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned top 3 from 12/22/1990, chart movements mentioned
1992 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned #1 from 12/21/1991, no chart movements mentioned (so far as I can tell)
1993 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned #1 from 12/19/1992, no chart movements mentioned (likely due to switching charts)
1994 (Shadoe Stevens): No mention of top 3, chart movements mentioned
1995 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned #1 from 12/24/1994, chart movements mentioned
Side note: I haven't listened to the 1992 show in full yet, thus my note on chart movements.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 24, 2020 0:01:01 GMT -5
Finished CT40 from 1/18/1992, now in hour 2 of AT40 from 1/19/1980, Casey's first hosted weekly show of the 1980s. It can also be heard on the iHeart classic AT40 channel.
ETA: Lots of big, upward moves in the 1992 show...the biggest of these was "Diamonds And Pearls", jumping from #18 to #5. Shanice was up from #22 to #11, Nirvana leaped 9 with "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (a song that wasn't played on AT40), and several 8-notch leaps throughout. Several other songs dropped from their peak on the 1/11 countdown, including one of my faves, "Change". New music was clearly taking over on this show...and a new #1 to boot, from an artist who'd only known #1's to that point.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 26, 2020 17:21:34 GMT -5
Just finished CT40 from 1/25/1992 with Mark Elliott guest-hosting, now AT40 from 1/26/1980 (another show on the iHeart classic AT40 channel).
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Post by adam31 on Jan 28, 2020 16:18:37 GMT -5
While on the top 3 recap topic, I'll list the first weekly show after the year-end countdown for every year in the classic AT40 era, beginning with 1980, since the practice began with the 2/24/1979 show. Casey also wouldn't host many of these; in fact, 1981 was the only year he did host the regular show coming off the year-end during this period. (Not so much in the 70s, but that period doesn't apply here.) 1980 (Mike Cleary): Played top 3 of 1/5/1980, chart movements mentioned 1981 (Casey Kasem): Played top 3 of 1980 top 100, chart movements mentioned 1982 (Bob Eubanks): Played top 3 of 12/26/1981, general chart movements mentioned 1983 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played top 3 of 12/18/1982, chart movements mentioned 1984 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played #1, mentioned #3 and #2 (from 12/24/1983), chart movements mentioned 1985 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played #1, mentioned #3 and #2 (from 12/22/1984), chart movements mentioned 1986 (Charlie Van Dyke): Mentioned top 3 from 12/28/1985, chart movements mentioned 1987 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played top 3 from 12/27/1986, chart movements mentioned 1988 (Charlie Van Dyke): Played #1 from 1987 top 100, mentioned #3 and #2, chart movements mentioned from 12/26/1987 1989 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned top 3 from 12/24/1988, chart movements mentioned 1990 (Shadoe Stevens): No mention of top 3, chart movements mentioned 1991 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned top 3 from 12/22/1990, chart movements mentioned 1992 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned #1 from 12/21/1991, no chart movements mentioned (so far as I can tell) 1993 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned #1 from 12/19/1992, no chart movements mentioned (likely due to switching charts) 1994 (Shadoe Stevens): No mention of top 3, chart movements mentioned 1995 (Shadoe Stevens): Mentioned #1 from 12/24/1994, chart movements mentioned Side note: I haven't listened to the 1992 show in full yet, thus my note on chart movements. This list shows, at the very least, how much less time Shadoe took off than Casey.
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