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Post by chrislc on Feb 10, 2014 13:15:45 GMT -5
Her song moved from #13 to #2 in one week.
The only problem for Lesley Gore was that she did it in February 1964.
Any other examples of really bad timing?
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Post by woolebull on Feb 10, 2014 16:06:57 GMT -5
Her song moved from #13 to #2 in one week. The only problem for Lesley Gore was that she did it in February 1964. Any other examples of really bad timing? That is the worst timing...ever! You would cry, too, if it happened to you (I know, I know...different song...couldn't resist) Bad timing a little later that stands out to me: 1) "Shattered Dreams" - Johnny Hates Jazz: 1988. Jumped from 8 to 2. Unfortunately , a little song known as "One More Try" by George Michael jumped that week to 14 to 4. "Dreams" would eventually spend three weeks at 2, but only after it dropped to three with a bullet the next week. 2) "Dancing In The Dark" - Bruce Springsteen: 1984. Lasvegaskid mentioned it above. Any other time and this song is number one for multiple weeks. Unfortunately for him, he ran into Prince and the juggernaut of "When Doves Cry". Think that wouldn't matter to "The Boss" having a pop number one? Check out the liner notes in his greatest hits album... he gives a special shout out to "The Artist" for keeping him out of the top position. 3) "Don't Wanna Fall In Love" - Jane Child: 1990. Somehow stalled at 6 for a week and then leaped to 2 but was stonewalled by Tommy Page (still shaking my head on that one). Sinead O'Conner slammed the door on her after that. One of very few hits from that time that spent more than one week at number one on R and R but never hit number one on Billboard in that time period. 4) "Get Lucky" - Daft Punk: 2013. Definitely not the title I think of when it comes to their luck hitting the top of the chart. Any other time and this song probably gets at least a week at the top, but the Lines were just too Blurred last year for them. Across the board, it landed at 2: Hot 100, AT 40, Dees. Great song, wrong time. 5) "Waiting For A Girl Like You" - Foreigner 1981-82. Oh they waited for a girl. Waited for her to drop for two and a half months. Eventually, they couldn't go for that. No can do. 6) "Baker Street" - Gerry Rafferty: 1978. I've read that of all songs that "should" have hit number one, this song could legitimately have an asterisk saying *was robbed of a week at number one because of chart manipulation". Unfortunately, it had to Dance in the Shadows for six weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 16:18:04 GMT -5
5 & 6 are the two penultimate examples of this IMO. 5 moreso obviously.
I guess if throw "In the Still of the Night" by Boyz II Men in this. It spent multiple weeks at #2 behind "I Will Always Love You."
"Electric Avenue" also which spent I think 4 or 5 weeks at 2 behind "Every Breath You Take."
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 10, 2014 18:41:41 GMT -5
This pair was bad timing for the song not so much the artist since both would find their way to the top multiple times. "Neither One of Us" and "Love to Love You Baby" both moved 3 to 2 but were denied a 3 to 1 move by "The Night the Lights Went out in Georgia" and "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" which both leaped from 10 to 1. The first occasion cost Casey a #1 prediction.
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Post by michaelcasselman on Feb 10, 2014 18:46:55 GMT -5
Neil Diamond's "Love On the Rock", due to Mark David Chapman.
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Post by woolebull on Feb 10, 2014 20:06:13 GMT -5
Neil Diamond's "Love On the Rock", due to Mark David Chapman. And/or Leo Sayers as well.
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Post by 80sat40fan on Feb 10, 2014 20:27:43 GMT -5
Speaking of February 1964... one of the artists from that group got the cold shoulder in 1973. "Live and Let Die" by Paul McCartney and Wings rocketed up from #21 to #3 in one week. PM&W moved to #2 but were held out of the top spot by Maureen McGovern's "The Morning After". The next week, PM&W holds at #2 while Diana Ross' "Touch Me In The Morning" took the #1 position. The next week, PM&W is #2 again while "Brother Louie" by The Stories moves to #1. An 18 notch leap to #3, and it is kept out of the #1 position by three different songs while is sits at #2.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 10, 2014 20:40:19 GMT -5
Bad timing for a whole set of runner-ups? The Carpenters. "We've Only Just Belong" was stopped by a song that did not rank in a year end survey but in Bronson's book, "I Think I Love You" was #3 in 1970. "RAiny Days and Mondays" was stopped by "It's Too Late", #3 in 1971. "Superstar" was stopped by "Maggie Maye", #2 in 1971. "Hurting Each Other" was stopped by "Without You", #4 in 1972. "Yesterday Once More" was stopped by "Bad Bad Leroy Brown", #3 in 1973. Average year end ranking for the songs they were stopped by...3. Released a month later and they had a much better chance at hitting #1.
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Post by renfield75 on Feb 11, 2014 16:32:53 GMT -5
Her song moved from #13 to #2 in one week. The only problem for Lesley Gore was that she did it in February 1964. Any other examples of really bad timing? That's funny, as this current week on the Hot 100 sees Beyonce & Jay-Z's "Drunk In Love" rocket 13-2, with little chance (at least any time soon) of going to number one.
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Feb 11, 2014 19:18:05 GMT -5
Madonna's "Erotica" was a majorly historical debut in AT40 history - debuting at #2 on October 17, 1992. I thought it was going to hit #1 by Halloween that year, but sadly, it couldn't stand a chance thanks to an eventually historical #1 on AT40 by Boyz II Men: "End of the Road" was in the midst of a 13-week run at #1 during the fall of 1992. I guess it's safe to say that two historical moments happened on AT40 within so few weeks.
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Post by vto66 on Feb 12, 2014 0:45:55 GMT -5
5 & 6 are the two penultimate examples of this IMO. 5 moreso obviously. I guess if throw "In the Still of the Night" by Boyz II Men in this. It spent multiple weeks at #2 behind "I Will Always Love You." "Electric Avenue" also which spent I think 4 or 5 weeks at 2 behind "Every Breath You Take." Regarding "Electric Avenue", I recall a VH1 show where the host mentioned how the song was waiting for "Flashdance" to drop from No. 1, but once it did, the Police song leapfrogged over "Electric Avenue" to grab that top spot. He remarked "Eddy, you were robbed!!" Indeed he was.
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Post by skuncle on Feb 12, 2014 6:55:45 GMT -5
Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty's "Stop Dragging My Heart Around" stuck at #3 for six weeks. Held off by "Endless Love". I believe "Arthur's Theme" was in there at #2 for. Few weeks as well, making it a double blocker. The song would become the biggest hit for both Stevie and Tom but could have been #1, it certainly waited for it's turn!
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Post by jebsib on Feb 12, 2014 8:30:41 GMT -5
What was the "Baker's Street" controversy?
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Post by dougbroda on Feb 12, 2014 9:06:08 GMT -5
How about the group prize for bad timing.... I nominate Creedence Clearwater Revival. If you had five songs go to #2 with none ever going to #1, I figure your timing has to be bad.
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Post by briguy52748 on Feb 12, 2014 10:18:42 GMT -5
On the country chart, there's probably a number of songs that would qualify, but the one that sticks out the most for me was Jo Dee Messina's "Lesson in Leaving'," which spent seven weeks at No. 2 from July to September 1999. The entire time, it was blocked to No. 1 by an amazing little song called "Amazed" by Lonestar.
Before that, the record has to be Kitty Wells' "Makin' Believe," which spent an incredible 15 weeks at No. 2 in the spring of 1955. Never could dislodge Webb Pierce's "In the Jailhouse Now," which sat at No. 1 for 21 weeks.
Other long-running No. 2 songs blocked to No. 1 by a dominant song:
• "I Ain't Never" by Webb Pierce in 1959, a nine-week No. 2 hit blocked by Jim Ed Brown and the Browns' "The Three Bells (Les Trois Cloches)." • "Never Trust a Woman" by Tex Williams and His Western Caravan in 1948, which tried for eight weeks to remove "I'll Hold You In My Heart Til I Can Hold You In My Arms" by Eddy Arnold. • "One More Time" by Ray Price in 1960, another eight-week runner-up song that was held out by Jim Reeves' "He'll Have to Go." • "Foolin' 'Round" by Buck Owens in 1961, eight weeks and blocked by two No. 1 smashes: "North to Alaska" by Johnny Horton and "Wings of a Dove" by Ferlin Husky. • "Just Call Me Lonesome" by Eddy Arnold in 1955, blocked for seven weeks by the 12-week No. 1 hit "I Don't Care" by Webb Pierce. (Yes, the song that Ricky Skaggs also made famous in 1982.) • "Yes, I Know Why" by Webb Pierce, stuck at No. 2 for seven weeks and blocked by Tennessee Ernie Ford's "Sixteen Tons" in early 1956. • "I Go Back" by Kenny Chesney, a No. 2 song for seven weeks in the summer of 2004. One of his best friends, Tim McGraw, was the main reason why "I Go Back" never got a week at No. 1 - McGraw's "Live Like You Were Dying" spent six of those weeks … the other was Reba McEntire's "Somebody." • "She's My Rock" by George Jones, just three weeks at No. 2 in December 1984 and January 1985, but two of those were behind The Judds' "Why Not Me," with the other blocker being George Strait's "Does Fort Worth Ever Cross Your Mind."
As far as more recently, any song that had the misfortune of being on the chart at the same time as Florida Georgia Line's bombastic "Cruise" during its 19-consecutive-week run last spring and summer on the traditional Hot Country Songs chart. No other song had a freakin' chance. Although it was an Country Airplay No. 1 hit, Blake Shelton and the Pistol Annies spent seven weeks at No. 2 in May, June and July 2013 with "Boys 'Round Here" on the traditional country chart behind "Cruise."
Brian
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