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Post by pointpark04 on Nov 15, 2013 16:44:39 GMT -5
As stupid as this may sound, would Boyz II Men qualify? They were huge from 91-95, but have rarely if ever been heard from again since "One Sweet Day." They had one more top 10 hit (and one more number one on Billboard) after "One Sweet Day", but they were gone before they should have been, at least it seemed to me. I think they had a louder BOOM but they did fizzle. It's not at all stupid. The Philly sound was a kind of fad, and came and went during the mid-1990s. Just as it ironically had in the mid-1970s. History loves to rhyme. |
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Post by woolebull on Nov 15, 2013 16:49:23 GMT -5
Milli Vanilli. For all the wrong reasons. But it makes you wonder "what if..." they hadn't been found out. Or at least how long could they have gone on convincingly using Rob and Fab as a cover for other singers They are either the biggest boom to fizzle in history, or they don't count at all because everything they released in America (as Milli Vanilli) all hit the Top 5. If they hadn't been found out, I think they have a solid run for at least another album or two. The one thing that Farian does not get credit for with Milli is the beginning of the Eurosound in America that would be popular on the charts in America through the mid 90's. Real McCoy and Ace of Base, maybe the two biggest groups of the Eurosound were more Boom to Fizzle because they came at the end of the Euro run. Would have been interesting to see, that's for sure. |
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Post by pb on Nov 15, 2013 16:58:34 GMT -5
That was not a leadoff single, but the third release from 'Cargo'. My mistake. I see now "Everything I Need" (the song from Men At Work's third album) didn't hit the top 40 at all although it reached #28 in the Mainstream Rock Tracks chat. |
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Nov 15, 2013 18:17:54 GMT -5
Some really good examples of singers who had their 15 minutes of fame, and then fizzled out afterwards:
Debbie Gibson. She was quite popular on the top 40 during 1987 and 1988, and after her last #1 hit ("Lost In Your Eyes" in 1989), she only had two more records make the top 20 (a 3-week stay at #11 for "Electric Youth", #17 for "No More Rhyme" in 1989), and one more top 30 hit (#26 for "Anything Is Possible" in early 1991) and then disappeared from AT40 forever.
Tiffany. Her first two songs went to #1, and after that, she had two top ten hits that peaked below the top 5. After she hit the top 40 with "Radio Romance", her popularity fizzled out big time.
Pink Floyd. Although they were heavily played on rock radio stations, they rarely had a hit on AT40. They had a top 20 hit with "Money" in 1973, and then their only #1 record in 1980 with "Another Brick in the Wall". After their only #1 hit, they disappeared from the top 40 big time.
Kim Wilde. Hitting the top 40 was a rarity for her in the U.S., but after her only #1 hit in June 1987 with "You Keep Me Hangin' On", like Pink Floyd, she disappeared from the top 40 forever.
N'Sync. They rose to instant stardom in early 1998, but fizzled out by 2002 (I think their #1 song "Bye Bye Bye" from 2000 was where the band's popularity reached their peak). The lead singer Justin Timberlake was apparently more successful as a solo artist than with the group, it seems. I don't think JC Chasez did as well, but he could have done better had it not been for the format change after Ryan Seacrest took over AT40 duties in 2004.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 19:42:35 GMT -5
^ Pink Floyd?  They are as far from this as one can almost be. They may have not had but a couple of singles but their album sales and number of releases more than makes up for it. And what does AT40s format change have to do with JC Chasez's career? |
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Post by pb on Nov 15, 2013 20:55:44 GMT -5
There were only three more studio albums from Pink Floyd after The Wall, The Final Cut (with the single "Not Now John" and its "f--- all that" chorus) and then the two albums without Roger Waters, which spawned very successful tours but weren't suited to the top 40 of their time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 20:56:47 GMT -5
Milli Vanilli. For all the wrong reasons. But it makes you wonder "what if..." they hadn't been found out. Or at least how long could they have gone on convincingly using Rob and Fab as a cover for other singers They are either the biggest boom to fizzle in history, or they don't count at all because everything they released in America (as Milli Vanilli) all hit the Top 5. If they hadn't been found out, I think they have a solid run for at least another album or two. The one thing that Farian does not get credit for with Milli is the beginning of the Eurosound in America that would be popular on the charts in America through the mid 90's. Real McCoy and Ace of Base, maybe the two biggest groups of the Eurosound were more Boom to Fizzle because they came at the end of the Euro run. Would have been interesting to see, that's for sure. I don't. They were done after 1 album. Their second album was remixed versions of their first. That's the best you can do for a follow up? I remember people being po'd all they did was lip sync their hits at their concerts as well. Granted we all know why now, but the charade wasn't going to last much longer I don't think. If they had never been exposed they'd still just be remembered as a duo with one "good" album and faded into obscurity. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 20:57:36 GMT -5
There were only three more studio albums from Pink Floyd after The Wall, The Final Cut (with the single "Not Now John" and its "f--- all that" chorus) and then the two albums without Roger Waters, which spawned very successful tours but weren't suited to the top 40 of their time. Yes but they were FAR from a group that was boom to fizzle. |
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Post by mkarns on Nov 15, 2013 20:57:47 GMT -5
^ Pink Floyd? They are as far from this as one can almost be. They may have not had but a couple of singles but their album sales and number of releases more than makes up for it. And what does AT40s format change have to do with JC Chasez's career? I agree with you re Pink Floyd; only two AT40 hits (though one was a #1) certainly don't do justice to their popularity and impact. Under that standard Bob Dylan, who last hit the top 10 singles chart in 1969 and top 40 in 1979, could qualify as a fizzle. Led Zeppelin largely ignored singles ("Whole Lotta Love" was top 10, but an anomaly, and they had only five other top 40's), but nobody would say they "fizzled". A lot of successful artists just didn't bother to cater to the top 40 singles market, even if they did have a few such hits. I don't think 'N Sync fizzled; they could easily have had more hits together, but split into different solo careers and activities. The fact that Justin Timberlake is the only one to have much sustained success on his own doesn't prove the group was clearly on the decline; by contrast, his huge (and a decade later, continued) solo success indicates that there might well have been a continued large audience for the group if they had stayed together and put out stuff that would fit with radio enough to maintain their audience and bring in new listeners. (JC Chasez' solo career has one bit of relevance to the AT40 format change: his second (and last) solo hit, "Some Girls (Dance With Women)", was the first song Ryan Seacrest played on his debut show, at #40.) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 20:59:29 GMT -5
3 more:
Donna Lewis, Savage Garden, and the lady who now makes her living as the face of the company my uncle runs: Debbie Boone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 21:02:16 GMT -5
^ Pink Floyd? They are as far from this as one can almost be. They may have not had but a couple of singles but their album sales and number of releases more than makes up for it. And what does AT40s format change have to do with JC Chasez's career? I agree with you re Pink Floyd; only two AT40 hits (though one was a #1) certainly don't do justice to their popularity and impact. Under that standard Bob Dylan, who last hit the top 10 singles chart in 1969 and top 40 in 1979, could qualify as a fizzle. Led Zeppelin largely ignored singles ("Whole Lotta Love" was top 10, but an anomaly, and they had only five other top 40's), but nobody would say they "fizzled". A lot of successful artists just didn't bother to cater to the top 40 singles market, even if they did have a few such hits. I don't think 'N Sync fizzled; they could easily have had more hits together, but split into different solo careers and activities. The fact that Justin Timberlake is the only one to have much sustained success on his own doesn't prove the group was clearly on the decline; by contrast, his huge (and a decade later, continued) solo success indicated that there might well have been a continued large audience for the group if they had stayed together and put out stuff that would fit with radio enough to maintain the audience and bring in new listeners. (JC Chasez' solo career has one bit of relevance to the AT40 format change: his second (and last) solo hit, "Some Girls (Dance With Women)", was the first song Ryan Seacrest played on his debut show. ) The album/other format issue is why I hesitated to list Boyz II Men. I only know primarily singles chart and I guess bigger name album groups. For all I know Boyz routinely hit the R&B chart for 15 years after their last major pop success. |
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Post by woolebull on Nov 15, 2013 22:05:53 GMT -5
They are either the biggest boom to fizzle in history, or they don't count at all because everything they released in America (as Milli Vanilli) all hit the Top 5. If they hadn't been found out, I think they have a solid run for at least another album or two. The one thing that Farian does not get credit for with Milli is the beginning of the Eurosound in America that would be popular on the charts in America through the mid 90's. Real McCoy and Ace of Base, maybe the two biggest groups of the Eurosound were more Boom to Fizzle because they came at the end of the Euro run. Would have been interesting to see, that's for sure. I don't. They were done after 1 album. Their second album was remixed versions of their first. That's the best you can do for a follow up? I remember people being po'd all they did was lip sync their hits at their concerts as well. Granted we all know why now, but the charade wasn't going to last much longer I don't think. If they had never been exposed they'd still just be remembered as a duo with one "good" album and faded into obscurity. I totally understand that line of thinking. I just think how much Snap! should have gone away after one album. Or Technotronic. People were tired of Milli by the end of their year run, but for some people it wasn't so much about the singers as it was the music. I could see Farian coming up with something compelling enough, along with their notoriety, to have made things interesting in '91 or '92. |
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Post by woolebull on Nov 15, 2013 22:08:48 GMT -5
I agree with you re Pink Floyd; only two AT40 hits (though one was a #1) certainly don't do justice to their popularity and impact. Under that standard Bob Dylan, who last hit the top 10 singles chart in 1969 and top 40 in 1979, could qualify as a fizzle. Led Zeppelin largely ignored singles ("Whole Lotta Love" was top 10, but an anomaly, and they had only five other top 40's), but nobody would say they "fizzled". A lot of successful artists just didn't bother to cater to the top 40 singles market, even if they did have a few such hits. I don't think 'N Sync fizzled; they could easily have had more hits together, but split into different solo careers and activities. The fact that Justin Timberlake is the only one to have much sustained success on his own doesn't prove the group was clearly on the decline; by contrast, his huge (and a decade later, continued) solo success indicated that there might well have been a continued large audience for the group if they had stayed together and put out stuff that would fit with radio enough to maintain the audience and bring in new listeners. (JC Chasez' solo career has one bit of relevance to the AT40 format change: his second (and last) solo hit, "Some Girls (Dance With Women)", was the first song Ryan Seacrest played on his debut show. ) The album/other format issue is why I hesitated to list Boyz II Men. I only know primarily singles chart and I guess bigger name album groups. For all I know Boyz routinely hit the R&B chart for 15 years after their last major pop success. It's a good point about lumping someone into the fizzle category just because they are not charting in the Top 10. Many might consider Deee Lite a one hit wonder. Deee Lite, however, had six songs go to number one of the dance charts. |
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Post by kchkwong on Nov 15, 2013 23:19:48 GMT -5
Nelson. Four Top 40 hits (including a No. 1) from their first album. Then no more.
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Post by jdelachjr2002 on Nov 15, 2013 23:37:40 GMT -5
3 more: Donna Lewis, Savage Garden, and the lady who now makes her living as the face of the company my uncle runs: Debbie Boone.Your uncle is responsible for Lifestyle Lift?!? To quote the late comic strip character Cathy: "AACK!"  And it's Debby Boone. |
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They are as far from this as one can almost be. They may have not had but a couple of singles but their album sales and number of releases more than makes up for it. 
