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Post by chrislc on Aug 3, 2013 18:34:29 GMT -5
I really really tried to listen to August 1988 with an open mind. But it is so depressing. Compare it to 5 or 10 or 15 years earlier. It's unbelievable.
Okay so yes I was 31 in 8/88. So is it just an age thing? Or did pop music really go down the toilet in the mid 80s?
I liked what happened when Nirvana came around. So that makes me suspect it isn't an age thing?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 18:48:59 GMT -5
I think it's age although some will disagree. I like 82-on, but once it got into the mid 90s when I was graduating high school I still liked it but not as much as 82-93. Now I'm 36 and have thought most of the last 10-12 years has sucked. But, someone younger than I is likely to think differently. Thats one of the reasons the "I hate Ryan Seacrest he sucks and at40 sucks now because of its format now" crowd bugs me. Is it most of our cup of tea? No. But it's what this generation wants so its either change or die and within a few decades NO ONE will remember the show or its history. I remember my parents and grandparents thinking what I listened to and the countdowns I listened to/videos I watched were trash too and what they'd say. It got old.
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Post by rustydj on Aug 3, 2013 19:22:09 GMT -5
I'll reserve comment until I actually hear the show... But I will say I was 28 and working in radio in 1988... and much preferred music from the 70s to what was charting in '88. It began to all have that same synthesizer sound... I longed to hear real drums, real piano, etc. Then in the early 90s, it seemed to swing back the other way... By then I was working at a country station, but still dj-ing dances, weddings, bars and parties with pop, rock, country and oldies (even big band/swing once in awhile!) More after I hear this week's show...
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Post by chrislc on Aug 3, 2013 19:54:50 GMT -5
August 1988 was about the time ...And Justice For All was released. I was a full on metal head by then. I was thinking what do Al Pacino and John Forsythe have to do with this topic. Did somebody mention "age thing"? This whole thread is out of order.
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Post by jebsib on Aug 3, 2013 22:10:32 GMT -5
What is it specifically that you don't like? There seemed to be quite a bit of variety, from GNR rock to the burgeoning rap hits.
The countdown that month was full of veteran acts like Steve Winwood, Elton John, Eric Carmen, Chicago, Robert Palmer, Huey Lewis, Van Halen, Michael Jackson, The Contours, Kenny Loggins, Pat Benatar, Peter Cetera, Def Leppard, REO Speedwagon, Hall & Oates, Cheap Trick, and Joan Jett. Maybe it was too AC leaning for you?
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Post by marv101 on Aug 3, 2013 22:26:47 GMT -5
I also have to disagree about the quality of music on this countdown or in 1988; the onslaught of rap and hip-hop certainly didn't help the format, and the 1990s turned out to be a disaster for top 40 radio, as 100+ stations bailed out of the format between 1988 and 2003, starting with WNCI/Columbus earlier this year as WODC PD Mike Eiland pointed out on his station's website. 1989 was also a solid year for the format before 1990 came along and the format reverted sharply as it had at the start of the two previous decades to an AC-heavy music mix.
Granted, 1988 was a rock-heavy year for the format, but every genre was well represented, and songwriters ruled throughout the decade, including the incomparable Diane Warren, Lionel Richie, and many others.
I certainly didn't have a problem with the standout production work throughout the 1980s from folks such as Hugh Padgham, Quincy Jones, Don Henley, Prince and numerous others as opposed to the overproduced pop fluff which has had a stranglehold on the format for several years running.
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Post by adam31 on Aug 4, 2013 5:56:01 GMT -5
I also have to disagree about the quality of music on this countdown or in 1988; the onslaught of rap and hip-hop certainly didn't help the format, and the 1990s turned out to be a disaster for top 40 radio, as 100+ stations bailed out of the format between 1988 and 2003, starting with WNCI/Columbus earlier this year as WODC PD Mike Eiland pointed out on his station's website. 1989 was also a solid year for the format before 1990 came along and the format reverted sharply as it had at the start of the two previous decades to an AC-heavy music mix. Granted, 1988 was a rock-heavy year for the format, but every genre was well represented, and songwriters ruled throughout the decade, including the incomparable Diane Warren, Lionel Richie, and many others. I certainly didn't have a problem with the standout production work throughout the 1980s from folks such as Hugh Padgham, Quincy Jones, Don Henley, Prince and numerous others as opposed to the overproduced pop fluff which has had a stranglehold on the format for several years running. A few weeks ago Casey lite aired a 1989 show that featured Donna, Donny, Doobies, plus Real Life, Synch, McCartney, Benny Mardones, Michael Damian, and Natalie Cole; if there was a hit from Kenny Rogers on the charts at that time, this show could have easily fit just as nicely in Summer of '82! What is this Casey Lite you speak of? I really really tried to listen to August 1988 with an open mind. But it is so depressing. Compare it to 5 or 10 or 15 years earlier. It's unbelievable. Okay so yes I was 31 in 8/88. So is it just an age thing? Or did pop music really go down the toilet in the mid 80s? I liked what happened when Nirvana came around. So that makes me suspect it isn't an age thing? In regard to 1988 music, I think how much you like music from any era has to do with age, specific when you grew up, your teen years. I was only 17 in 1988, so I love this year, in fact I feel the deepest connection with music from my formative years. So if you were 31 in 1988, that made your teen years the early 70s. Are you more in touch with music from that time?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 6:36:24 GMT -5
A few weeks ago Casey lite aired a 1989 show that featured Donna, Donny, Doobies, plus Real Life, Synch, McCartney, Benny Mardones, Michael Damian, and Natalie Cole; if there was a hit from Kenny Rogers on the charts at that time, this show could have easily fit just as nicely in Summer of '82! What is this Casey Lite you speak of? I really really tried to listen to August 1988 with an open mind. But it is so depressing. Compare it to 5 or 10 or 15 years earlier. It's unbelievable. Okay so yes I was 31 in 8/88. So is it just an age thing? Or did pop music really go down the toilet in the mid 80s? I liked what happened when Nirvana came around. So that makes me suspect it isn't an age thing? In regard to 1988 music, I think how much you like music from any era has to do with age, specific when you grew up, your teen years. I was only 17 in 1988, so I love this year, in fact I feel the deepest connection with music from my formative years. So if you were 31 in 1988, that made your teen years the early 70s. Are you more in touch with music from that time? They are referring to the SXM 80s countdown. Why they continue to refer to it as that is beyond me.
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Post by adam31 on Aug 4, 2013 6:41:40 GMT -5
So SXM plays 1989 shows? Is it just Casey's Top 40, or AT40 also?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 7:53:40 GMT -5
They don't play any AT40/Casey's Top 40 shows on the 80s on 8. It's their own in house Top 40 countdown the old VJ's do. They count down a different year from "this week" on each weeks episode.
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Post by matt on Aug 4, 2013 7:54:33 GMT -5
So SXM plays 1989 shows? Is it just Casey's Top 40, or AT40 also? No, he's referring to the Big 40 Countdown with the original MTV VJs. They play all 10 years of the 80s, so you get shows from August 1988 through the end of '89.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Aug 4, 2013 9:29:02 GMT -5
I was 20 in 1988, but by this point I desired the soul & psychedelic funk from the era of this week's 70's show. The previous few years sounded too modern rock or new wave heavy on the pop charts. But the introduction of New Jack Swing and Hip Hop to pop radio was returning the charts back to that social conscious & blaxploitation era. This is what made top 40 radio more listenable to me from 1988 on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 10:35:37 GMT -5
Sort of sounds like what I went through in 93. I got really tired of the R&B vocal sound all over the place.
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Post by mkarns on Aug 4, 2013 10:43:04 GMT -5
I don't know why it is, but I've been having trouble getting into early-to-mid 2000's music; my top 40 radio listening lapsed during that time (from about 2001 to 2005-06) and I tried looking up a lot of the songs retrospectively, but so far that period by and large hasn't held my interest.
It isn't just age; more recent and current countdowns are at least intermittently enjoyable. As far as feeling the deepest connection with music from the teen years, I was a teen in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and I find the overall music from that period rather spotty, with some good stuff and a lot of dross that even personal memories can't enliven or redeem.
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Post by 80sat40fan on Aug 4, 2013 13:25:44 GMT -5
chrislc... I liked a lot of tunes in 1988. Overall, I am not sure that 1988's music stacks up as strongly as the mid 1982 - early 1987 era (my favorite five years of the 80's) but I can enjoy a 1988 countdown. Having said that... I started disliking more and more Top 40 tunes in the late 90's when I turned 30. I used to like most tunes on a Top 40 coundown show but once I turned 30 (you mentioned 31 in your post), I started wondering if Top 40 music was as good as it used to be. When I turned 32, I didn't recognize all of the songs on Top 40 stations, and in some cases, I didn't want to know who sang them as the songs sounded over-produced, were soul-less, or were too heavy into rap. Maybe it's not the calendar year but maybe a particular age in which we start to dislike some Top 40 music? I was liking more alternative music in '98 and '99 than Top 40.
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