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Post by jmack19 on Jul 27, 2013 15:40:28 GMT -5
AT40s: The 80s show this weekend was from 08/01/1981, which is also MTVs first day on the air.
Apparently, MTV had such an impact on the music industry that in 1985, Daryl Hall told Entertainment Tonight that a song could not reach #1 without a video.
I know "Amanda" by Boston topped the Hot 100 in 1986 without an official music video.
What other songs released after 08/01/1981 hit #1 in the 1980's without an official music video?
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Post by Mike on Jul 27, 2013 16:23:38 GMT -5
Did "Baby, Come to Me" have one? All I can find are "lyric" videos, live performances, and other versions of it - nothing confirming an "official" video (though given that its success was spurred by General Hospital, that very well could have done the job). Similarly, for "Islands in the Stream" I find several live performances.
"Didn't We Almost Have it All" didn't...technically. Apparently a live performance was used for video channel play.
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Post by JMW on Jul 27, 2013 19:50:10 GMT -5
I don't recall there ever being a video for "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" in 1987.
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Post by jmack19 on Jul 28, 2013 0:35:14 GMT -5
Thanks. So far:
1983
Patti Austin and James Ingram "Baby, Come to Me"
Kenny Rogers with Dolly Parton "Islands in the Stream"
1986
Boston "Amanda"
1987
Michael Jackson w/ Siedah Garrett "I Just Can't Stop Loving You"
Whitney Houston "Didn't We Almost Have It All"
1988
Tiffany "Could've Been"
1989
Sheriff "When I'm with You"
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Post by cdman71031 on Jul 28, 2013 4:27:26 GMT -5
Here's My list can anyone confirm if it is right
1 Endless Love - Diana Ross & Lionel Richie
2 Arthur's Theme (The Best That You Can Do) - Christoper Cross
3 Chariots Of Fire - Vangelis
4 Baby Come To Me - Patti Austin And James Ingram
5 Islands In The Stream - Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton
6 Amanda - Boston
7 I Just Can't Stop Loving You - Michael Jackson & Siedah Garrett
8 Didn't We Almost Have It All - Whitney Houston (Live Clip in it's Place)
9 When I'm With You - Sheriff
And These I'm Not Sure About Can Anybody Confirm The Below songs had videos played either by MTV or VH-1.
1 Up Where We Belong - Joe Cocker & Jennifer Warnes
2 At This Moment - Billy Vera And The Beaters
3 Could've Been - Tiffany
That's It from The 1980's that I Could Find.
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Post by skuncle on Jul 28, 2013 6:21:41 GMT -5
Could've Been was a live clip, but that should count because it still put the song all over MTV. I seem to recall seeing a video for At This Moment, for some reason I see him sitting in a bar at the piano?? Maybe I'm just imagining that though.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Jul 28, 2013 13:18:20 GMT -5
There was definitely a video for "Chariots Of Fire." It was essentially an impromptu studio performance with clips of the movie shown on a projector & the main screen. It had a texture similar to Greg Kihn's "Jeopardy." It likely wasn't "suitable" for MTV play, but I DID see it on America's Top 10.
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Post by giannirubino on Jul 28, 2013 13:46:42 GMT -5
I saw a movie clip of Endless Love in a record store in August 1981. I don't remember the chain, but it was a large record store in an urban area, possibly Sam Goody in NYC. I remember drooling over Martin Hewitt and trying to be cool about it in front of my friends. (I was in the closet at the time.) Yes, sorry about the TMI, but that's how/why I remember it.
I distinctly remember seeing a movie clip video of "Chariots of Fire" by Vangelis in late 1981 / early 1982 as it was just charting. On it Vangelis is sitting at his synthesizer, while watching a screen showing the movie (with the classic scene of runners on the beach) and he is smoking a cigarette. That didn't seem to jive with the health of a runner, and it stuck in my craw.
I didn't have MTV in 1983. I did see the Grammy Award Show performance of UWWB by Joe Cocker & Jennifer Warnes a couple of times, but not sure where. I also saw a clip of Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton performing IITS live *regularly* at the time it was on the charts. I do NOT know where, though, could it have been NBC's Friday Night Videos? Even for a live video in 1983, it was VERY boring and lame. So, I remember that vividly, too. (In my mind, a live video doesn't have to be boring. I always found the YDBMF by Barbra & Neil to be riveting.)
In 1987 I did see a video for ATM by Billy Vera & The Beaters. It was heavy on clips from Family Ties, but it had Billy Vera, too. I do NOT know where I saw it.
Now, I have a question about a non #1 song. There's wasn't a video for Madonna's "Rescue Me," was there? I used to see one on some central Florida radio station simulcasting on local TV in the mornings. They used clips of her prior videos (including some of the banned JML.) Was this a common practice ever?
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(Listening to 8/1/81 while I type ... Casey just make a mistake? He called The Tubes' "Don't Want To Wait Anymore" as "Don't Want YOU To Wait Anymore!" Did I make that up? Did he just misspeak? LOL)
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Post by Mike on Jul 28, 2013 15:05:13 GMT -5
Here's My list can anyone confirm if it is right 1 Endless Love - Diana Ross & Lionel Richie Disqualified - the question calls for songs released after 8/1/81. Here's My list can anyone confirm if it is right 2 Arthur's Theme (The Best That You Can Do) - Christoper Cross No, this one did in fact have one: link2 At This Moment - Billy Vera And The Beaters Right here: linkYeah, this clip has the modern "promo" credits that you'll sometimes see out and about, but I'm guessing that the clip itself was in fact the original video. In any case, it fits the description that skuncle mentioned: Could've Been was a live clip, but that should count because it still put the song all over MTV. I seem to recall seeing a video for At This Moment, for some reason I see him sitting in a bar at the piano?? Maybe I'm just imagining that though. And as for "Could've Been", that is correct as well - that may have even been the strategy, for the song's Wiki points out that in said clip, fans are singing along to the song. Effective as a "video" technique, no? Sheriff's song is correct, though. That one did not have a video. I'm skeptical about "Up Where We Belong" having one as well, though - I'll have to double-check that one to make sure that they didn't in fact make one using An Officer and a Gentleman clips, which would've been very easy to do. |
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Post by michaelcasselman on Jul 29, 2013 8:24:52 GMT -5
Didn't Billboard, at some point in the late 80's, indicate whether a song had a video on the Hot 100 listings?
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Jul 29, 2013 15:18:36 GMT -5
Didn't Billboard, at some point in the late 80's, indicate whether a song had a video on the Hot 100 listings? Yes they did. For this coming weekend's 8/6/88 show, these were the songs in the top 40 with no "videoclip availability": - "I Don't Want to Live without Your Love" - Chicago - "Love Will Save the Day" - Whitney Houston - "Another Part of Me" - Michael Jackson - "Sayin' Sorry (Don't Make It Right)" - Denise Lopez |
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Post by rayshae3 on Jul 29, 2013 19:22:12 GMT -5
Didn't Billboard, at some point in the late 80's, indicate whether a song had a video on the Hot 100 listings? Yes they did. For this coming weekend's 8/6/88 show, these were the songs in the top 40 with no "videoclip availability": - "I Don't Want to Live without Your Love" - Chicago - "Love Will Save the Day" - Whitney Houston - "Another Part of Me" - Michael Jackson - "Sayin' Sorry (Don't Make It Right)" - Denise Lopez The Billboard’s Video Clip Availability diamond symbol debuted with the issue Oct-10-1984, and included not only the Hot 100, but also the Country, Black and Dance/Disco charts. However, while some songs remained without video in their entire chart runs (like “Amanda’ , or the followup “We’re Ready” by Boston), the vast majority of others that started their respective chart-runs without video-clip eventually got one, so that diamond symbol was added next to the title and artist. In one extreme case, “Part-Time Lover” by Stevie Wonder was without video-clip up to and including the sole week it was at number one on the Hot 100 (weekending Nov-2-1985). Immediately after that finally a video clip got released for this song. But on the following week’s Hot 100 (weekending Nov-9-1985) when the clip-symbol was first added for this song, the title slipped to no. 2. For the songs Shadow Fan refered to for the AT40 portion of the Hot 100 of August-6-1988, these were the weekending Hot 100 dates a couple eventually got their video clip availability: "Sayin' Sorry (Don't Make It Right)" - Denise Lopez (the following week Aug-13-88 at #35) "Another Part of Me" - Michael Jackson (weekending Aug-27-88 at #17) While the other two, by Chicago and Whitney Houston remained w/o video for the rest of their Hot 100 chart-runs. BTW, this Hot 100 feature was discontinued starting with the April-3-1999 issue. |
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Post by reachinforthestars on Jul 29, 2013 23:34:38 GMT -5
Now, I have a question about a non #1 song. There's wasn't a video for Madonna's "Rescue Me," was there? I used to see one on some central Florida radio station simulcasting on local TV in the mornings. They used clips of her prior videos (including some of the banned JML.) Was this a common practice ever? You are correct. There wasn't a promo for "Rescue Me". The video with clips strung together is often mistaken for a promo. But that doesn't fit my definition of a promo. Nor is simply editing clips from a movie. I usually put an asterisk on non-studio (live) performances or simply label them as "live promo" and place them in a separate category. Those were just substitutes that saved the label and artist the time and expense of producing legitimate promos. I have a more narrow definition of what constitutes a promo video, while others will accept a broader definition. |
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Post by mstgator on Jul 31, 2013 20:02:35 GMT -5
BTW, this Hot 100 feature was discontinued starting with the April-3-1999 issue. While they did get rid of the diamond symbol (next to the artist name), it was replaced by a small dagger symbol located next to the label name. That, in turn, was replaced by a "camera" symbol following the artist name when Billboard redesigned their charts on July 28, 2001. The feature was discontinued for good upon another chart redesign on April 30, 2005. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2013 20:41:25 GMT -5
The only thing I ever remember as far as MTV in Billboard was they'd publish their playlist. They did the same for VH1, Muchmusic, and I think Night Tracks.
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