|
Post by pamelajaye on Aug 31, 2012 21:14:34 GMT -5
Rocky - a song which I'd totally forgotten, hadn't heard for 30 years, but knew most of the words by heart somehow - lost at least a whole verse. I didn't notice it was gone till after the baby's 1st birthday...
I'll assume most people think that's an awful song, but I like it. (hey, remember the death songs of the late 50s/early 60s?)
|
|
|
Post by quatermass on Sept 1, 2012 0:22:09 GMT -5
I enjoy that song as well!!!
|
|
|
Post by pamelajaye on Sept 1, 2012 1:02:38 GMT -5
oddly, the song that everyone seems to hate actually came a few notches later in the same countdown - Run, Joey, Run. I really have no opinion on that one. I was just surprised to find it there. There was some big to-do when it was on Glee, which I wasn't paying any attention to - partly cause I avoid spoilers like the plague and partly cause I don't hang out in Glee fandom (I bought season 1 and now wonder why, as the only thing I'm really watching it for is the songs). So, I don't know and wikipedia didn't tell me.
|
|
|
Post by doomsdaymachine on Sept 1, 2012 1:16:28 GMT -5
I still rue the original AT40 edit of Vicki Sue Robinson's "Turn The Beat Around," which left out the second verse and all that awesome scatting she did.
|
|
|
Post by pamelajaye on Sept 1, 2012 12:26:10 GMT -5
Looks like I should go thru my AT40s and figure out what songs I have...
|
|
|
Post by skuncle on Sept 1, 2012 12:42:50 GMT -5
oddly, the song that everyone seems to hate actually came a few notches later in the same countdown - Run, Joey, Run. I really have no opinion on that one. I was just surprised to find it there. There was some big to-do when it was on Glee, which I wasn't paying any attention to - partly cause I avoid spoilers like the plague and partly cause I don't hang out in Glee fandom (I bought season 1 and now wonder why, as the only thing I'm really watching it for is the songs). So, I don't know and wikipedia didn't tell me. As a little kid "Run Joey Run" always scared me for some reason. But as I got older and rediscovered the song I began to realize that the lyrics don't really make sense, Julie calls and says don't come over, so Joey jumps in his car and goes over! Once he gets there, he goes up to Julie and somehow he can see the father sneaking up behind him, he turns around (I'm guessing) and Julie jumps in front of him, the father fires, Julie drops. Joey then has to run over to her. Wasn't he just close enough to see the bruises and tear filled eyes? But now he has to run to her, I assume the shot sent her flying? She says her pathetic "Daddy please don't....." plea again and drops dead. The next verse would be interesting to see the conversation between the father and Joey. I mean who calls the police? Maybe this father was blind and didn't realize it was his daughter he shot? Maybe he was just in a hurry to get to his sons football game? Maybe Joey shot the father and that's why he never made it to sons football game, of course now the kid has to go home and deal with a dead blind father and his dead sister!
|
|
|
Post by bigal on Sept 1, 2012 20:09:02 GMT -5
Brilliant reference to Geddes other tune!
I was assuming the Run joey part of the chorus is, the father claimed oey killd her, the police and the father is looking for him, so he is on the run, and the first part he is telling the tale probably holed up ina hotel incognito, knowing he will be caught for a crime he didnt commit?
|
|
|
Post by dukelightning on Sept 1, 2012 20:27:26 GMT -5
And that is the same plot as in "The Night the Lights Went out in Georgia" where someone is wrongfully accused of a killing.
|
|
|
Post by skuncle on Sept 1, 2012 21:23:04 GMT -5
Well the actual storyline is Joey has knocked up Julie and her father is going to kill Joey for doing so. The father has already beaten Julie and now he's coming for Joey. So Julie is telling Joey to just run because her father is coming for him. She tells him to just stay away, but he goes over anyhow. Then the father accidently shoots Julie when she jumps in front of him. The first part of the song is just him reflecting back on that night.
|
|
|
Post by lonelysummer on Sept 2, 2012 2:06:28 GMT -5
Rocky - a song which I'd totally forgotten, hadn't heard for 30 years, but knew most of the words by heart somehow - lost at least a whole verse. I didn't notice it was gone till after the baby's 1st birthday... I'll assume most people think that's an awful song, but I like it. (hey, remember the death songs of the late 50s/early 60s?) Okay, that explains the gap in the storyline. I thought while listening that it sounded...odd...but it's been so long since I heard it, didn't recognize it as an edit.
|
|
|
Post by mct1 on Sept 9, 2012 0:43:29 GMT -5
And that is the same plot as in "The Night the Lights Went out in Georgia" where someone is wrongfully accused of a killing. I noticed that on last week's "Top 40 Producers of the '70s" special, "The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia" was also missing a verse. When you hear edited version of songs on Classic AT40, bear in mind that there are four types of edits: 1) Sometimes, what we hear is simply what the original 45 rpm single sounded like, and may have been commonly heard on both radios and turntables when the song was new. If the memory of the song was kept alive over the years by stations with album-oriented formats (eg., album-oriented FM rock), the 45 version may have been forgotten over the years and may sound strange today. An extreme example of this is "Two Tickets To Paradise" by Eddie Money, whose 45 version is not only shorter than the album version but all around mixed and edited very differently. 2) Sometimes, what we hear is edited compared to the original commercial 45, but is a legitimate version issued by the record label for promotional purposes. In the '70s and '80s, record companies would send out special promotional versions of 45s to radio stations which had the A-side on both sides. Up until the early '80s, one side would be mixed down into mono for AM airplay. These were usually the same as the commercial 45, but in some cases one side would be a shorter edited version that wasn't commerically available (the mono side, during that era). AT40 would sometimes play these special promotional edits, and some radio stations probably aired them as well, especially AM stations. An extreme example that comes to mind is "Fool In the Rain" by Led Zeppelin. 3) Sometimes the edits were done by Watermark at the time of the original broadcast, generally to fit all 40 songs in the required 3 or 4 hours. This was obviously extremely common in the year or two before the show went from 3 to 4 hours in 1978. 4) And of course sometimes the edits were done by Premiere when the shows were re-broadcast, to trim things down further.
|
|
|
Post by torcan on Sept 9, 2012 10:33:44 GMT -5
Back in the day, it always bugged me when AT40 would edit songs shorter than the short 45s. I understand why they did it, but I never liked it!
|
|
|
Post by mkarns on Sept 9, 2012 12:49:15 GMT -5
And that is the same plot as in "The Night the Lights Went out in Georgia" where someone is wrongfully accused of a killing. I noticed that on last week's "Top 40 Producers of the '70s" special, "The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia" was also missing a verse. When you hear edited version of songs on Classic AT40, bear in mind that there are four types of edits: 1) Sometimes, what we hear is simply what the original 45 rpm single sounded like, and may have been commonly heard on both radios and turntables when the song was new. If the memory of the song was kept alive over the years by stations with album-oriented formats (eg., album-oriented FM rock), the 45 version may have been forgotten over the years and may sound strange today. An extreme example of this is "Two Tickets To Paradise" by Eddie Money, whose 45 version is not only shorter than the album version but all around mixed and edited very differently. 2) Sometimes, what we hear is edited compared to the original commercial 45, but is a legitimate version issued by the record label for promotional purposes. In the '70s and '80s, record companies would send out special promotional versions of 45s to radio stations which had the A-side on both sides. Up until the early '80s, one side would be mixed down into mono for AM airplay. These were usually the same as the commercial 45, but in some cases one side would be a shorter edited version that wasn't commerically available (the mono side, during that era). AT40 would sometimes play these special promotional edits, and some radio stations probably aired them as well, especially AM stations. An extreme example that comes to mind is "Fool In the Rain" by Led Zeppelin. 3) Sometimes the edits were done by Watermark at the time of the original broadcast, generally to fit all 40 songs in the required 3 or 4 hours. This was obviously extremely common in the year or two before the show went from 3 to 4 hours in 1978. 4) And of course sometimes the edits were done by Premiere when the shows were re-broadcast, to trim things down further. "The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia" was a bad choice for cutting out a verse, since it was a story-song. Regarding Premiere edits, they often edited the #40 song, for whatever reason. The last couple of weeks SXM played 8/27/77 and 9/4/71, both of which Premiere has played the last couple of years and in which they cut the first song down to almost nothing. On this week's 9/10/77 broadcast, the edit of "Barracuda" I heard was particularly bad, or at least awkward, going right from the bridge to the closing instrumental riff, with no final chorus. I don't know if that was done originally or by Premiere.
|
|
|
Post by pamelajaye on Sept 9, 2012 18:37:25 GMT -5
before I read the posts I haven't read yet, I'd like to protest the cutting of the second verse of Maniac. I'll have to dig out my mp3, I guess. Hisssss....
|
|
|
Post by pamelajaye on Sept 9, 2012 18:48:54 GMT -5
okay I understand editing for time but this was a 4 hour show. Also, there's a song I have that I was unaware even had a longer version. Maybe two songs. My brother twitted me about... I think it was A Man I'll Never Be, but I'd never heard the long version. Also Total Eclipse of The Heart, has, I think, an extended version, longer than what I was I used to. (and maybe now I'll remember it was from 83 and the Dionne Warwick(e) song was 85 (there were some songs I only heard when on vacation with my friend Lisa as she listened to a different format, I guess, than I did (couldn't have been another *station* as we were on vacation in AZ and CO, though I know back home she listened to WHDH and I listened to, a few stations which were never WHDH. Wonder what she listens to now. (she doesn't have a computer))
Oh, and thanks to Casey for the info about that E in or not in Warwicke.
|
|