CT40 re-released to terrestrial radio.

[shadster]

Since premiere is the rights holder, Westwood one must of given up their rights. That being said, you'd likely need to edit out any reference to westwood one during the show.

As to the Dees/Casey issue, here in DC, a major market, Casey was the one who got the shaft. Casey was heard here up until the demise of WAVA in 1992. Casey never returned to DC, however AT-10 an also AT40 flashback, did return in the early 2000's. Dee's on the other hand was absent in the early 90s but was pretty much a staple around here all they way up until Ryan Seacrest came along.

And as for CHR airings, I CAN tell you that our CHR WIHT actually air's Backtrax USA the 90's. Which surprises the hell out of me, you wouldnt think a 90s program would be on a major market CHR station. Allthough they do BURY it...........4-6am saturday morning.

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Jun 2, 2011 23:19:08 GMT -5 shadster said:

Since premiere is the rights holder, Westwood one must of given up their rights. That being said, you'd likely need to edit out any reference to westwood one during the show.

As to the Dees/Casey issue, here in DC, a major market, Casey was the one who got the shaft. Casey was heard here up until the demise of WAVA in 1992. Casey never returned to DC, however AT-10 an also AT40 flashback, did return in the early 2000's. Dee's on the other hand was absent in the early 90s but was pretty much a staple around here all they way up until Ryan Seacrest came along.

And as for CHR airings, I CAN tell you that our CHR WIHT actually air's Backtrax USA the 90's. Which surprises the hell out of me, you wouldnt think a 90s program would be on a major market CHR station. Allthough they do BURY it...........4-6am saturday morning.

Isnt that pretty much what Z100 in New York does with Backtrax USA? Or do they not air it at all anymore?

[mkarns]

Jun 2, 2011 23:19:08 GMT -5 shadster said:

And as for CHR airings, I CAN tell you that our CHR WIHT actually air's Backtrax USA the 90's. Which surprises the hell out of me, you wouldnt think a 90s program would be on a major market CHR station. Allthough they do BURY it...........4-6am saturday morning.

Didn't know that (it isn't listed among the weekend programming on their website), though I'm not usually up or listening to the radio at that particular hour. Interestingly, it segues right into the first of two weekend airings of the current AT40.

Also semi-locally, WINC-FM plays Backtrax USA 80s and 90s back to back on Sunday nights. Since they also play the 80s AT40, if a Casey 90s counterpart were syndicated they'd be a good possibility to play it as well.

[shadster]

not sure about Z100. but you can check yes.com. i usually check that on WIHT to see what songs aired on backtrax 90s.

[snarfdude]

Personally, I think some of the 70s transfers from radio station source mp3's are not great...lots of hiss and even phasing problems in summing to mono. I wouldn't think excessive hiss would not be an issue given it's off vinyl, well most of the stuff anyway, which is the thing that surprises me. The 80s transfers I have heard from source mp3's are what they should be...fairly clean vinyl transfers. Some cuts premiere seems to have replaced with CD cuts, but not all.

Hiss is very hard to eliminate. You can use a noise gate, which I think is done to some degree on the transfers, so it really is best to leave it in given a choice.

As far as quality goes CT40 was far better vinyl source material. It was 6 vinyl discs weekly as opposed to 4 and using audiophile vinyl. With respect to Shannon, you can really only do so much with the AT40 watermark source material, as they are cramming in 24 mins/side overall where the normal maximum is about 20 mins. Noise and inner groove distortion will prevail and often ends up on air for those who know what to listen for. CT40 crammed less audio onto one side of a disc, thus keeping the quality higher then what AT40 was. The louder you can make your grooves the better quality it is, as i'm sure you might understand if you ever had a K-tel album in your collection.

With the audio limitations of FM radio and it's processing, it can hide a multitude of audio sins. which is a good thing in some cases.

[BrettVW]

Yes. Z-100 in New York still airs Backtrax 90s at 4am Saturday. I imagine they air the show simply to pay tribute to all that Kid Kelly did for that station when he worked on air.

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Jun 5, 2011 22:54:06 GMT -5 BrettVW said:

Yes. Z-100 in New York still airs Backtrax 90s at 4am Saturday. I imagine they air the show simply to pay tribute to all that Kid Kelly did for that station when he worked on air.

Unlike what KIIS did with Rick.

[snarfdude]

Sept 21, 2008 22:30:48 GMT -5 JasonWQMA said:

CT40 didn't have a great number of affiliates when it was actually airing (in the mid to late 90's especially). I believe "Casey's Hot 20" was probably more widely heard. As such, reruns seem less likely to me than an AT40 type situation. But maybe I'm wrong. Especially after some time passes.

Another thought is that it would be great if some past syndicated shows could air as specials somewhere. Something like "lost radio shows weekend". I'm sure syndicators themselves could dig in the vaults and put together such packages and barter them as special programming to stations to run for an entire weekend (maybe holiday weekends). Why not a weekend of like Dick Clark year end countdowns for example? Or shows that don't exist anymore like countdowns from Scott Shannon or Dan Ingrams 80's top 40 show (Top 40 Satellite Survey I think it was)? These types of shows will never be rerun on a regular basis because they were short lived but would be great specialty programming somewhere.

Perfect example of the lack of creativity in radio today. Things like this would be super cheap to produce but would actually have great nostalgia factor. The most talked about shows on XM seem to be Casey, Rick, and Wolfman Jack. People like reruns of #1 DJ's much better than voicetracking nobodies or automated jukeboxes. (Of course XM just throws these on because they are cheap anyway...)

Personally, rerunning other vintage countdowns then rick or casey would really not appeal to the world of commerical radio which appeals to the mass audiences. casey and rick dominate the memories of most people for countdowns, and to a lesser degree, Dick Clark.

A lot of the other countdowns existed because stations couldn't get At40 and really weren't spectacular. At40 with casey is unique, and really stands the test of time even for someone listening to it the vintage shows for the first time. It's also well known in the radio industry worldwide and thanks to pete battistini, and has a resource of old shows to rely on. That makes it very programming friendly to commerical radio programmers.

Dick I have no doubt has an archive. That's what keeps rock roll and remember on the air after his stroke. recycling the voice tracks, but he's known more for oldies, specifically 50s 60s and 70s then 80s and 90s countdowns. We all remember national music survey and countdown america, but I don't think these shows have a place on commerical radio again.

for the others, including top 30 USA, top 40 satellite survey, actually getting original shows and enough of them, can be a challenge.

still, you think more vintage material, be it specials, or profiles, etc from syndicators given the success of AT40. One can only suspect that most of this material is topical and dated and would have to be updated to be aired today, besides the fact that, again, masters could be lost and vinyl sourcing of the shows wouldn't necessarily be up to today's standards for a lot of stations.

Regardless, the shows will live with collectors like ourselves. maybe a exchange/trade of mp3 files of the shows can be set up at some point? Some non network programming i've transferred and ran on my internet stream in the past mainly because it's something to do with it.

[baylink]

Has an inventory been compiled by the cabal?

Send them /copies/.