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Post by doomsdaymachine on Apr 9, 2012 23:20:56 GMT -5
I understand the upcoming 4/10/71 countdown has a debut song at #15. I wonder if that was the all-time highest debut on AT40 (pre-Soundscan)?
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Post by mkarns on Apr 9, 2012 23:24:18 GMT -5
I understand the upcoming 4/10/71 countdown has a debut song at #15. I wonder if that was the all-time highest debut on AT40 (pre-Soundscan)? No; on 10/23/71 Isaac Hayes' theme from "Shaft" entered the top 40 at #9, the highest debut during the 1970-91 period. (Ironically, we hear the April 1971 countdown just a week after the April 1978 show which Casey opened by erroneously calling a #17 debut a record high.) |
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Post by jdelachjr2002 on Apr 9, 2012 23:24:35 GMT -5
No. That honor went to "Erotica" by Madonna which debuted at #2 in 1992 (it was also the peak position of said song).
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Post by doomsdaymachine on Apr 10, 2012 1:13:04 GMT -5
No. That honor went to "Erotica" by Madonna which debuted at #2 in 1992 (it was also the peak position of said song). But wasn't 1992 in the Soundscan era? I said, "pre-Soundscan." |
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Post by dougray2 on Apr 10, 2012 1:44:12 GMT -5
In the pre Soundscan era of AT40, Theme From Shaft by Isaac Hayes was the highest debut at #9, followed by Upside Down by Diana Ross, which debuted at #10 in August 1980. However, there were several songs that debuted higher in the 60s and early 1970, before AT40 started. Some of these were Wild Thing by the Troggs (#6 in July 1966), I'm A Believer by the Monkees (#8 in December 1966), Let It Be by the Beatles (debuted on Hot 100 at #6 in March 1970). On the Hot 100 chart before Soundscan, the highest top 40 debut ever was Volare by Domenico Modugno, which debuted at #2 in August 1958. Two Beatles songs are tied for second place, I Want To Hold Your Hand debuted at #3 in January 1964, and Yesterday did likewise in October 1965.
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Apr 10, 2012 6:14:51 GMT -5
No. That honor went to "Erotica" by Madonna which debuted at #2 in 1992 (it was also the peak position of said song). Yes, "Erotica", a song that many radio stations refused to play, had the highest debut in AT40 history. It debuted at #2 on October 17, 1992, most likely held that spot for one week, and by Halloween it was on the way down. "Erotica" was also the #90 song of 1992, possibly the lowest position on a year-end countdown for a #2 song. In 1991, Madonna's "Rescue Me" was credited for having the highest debut on the Hot 100 in 21 years at that time (debuting at #15 in February or March 1991, I think?). Interestingly enough, it was uncertain if it would enter the top 10 (I predicted a #11 peak position originally). It did - it reached #9, but fell out of the top 10 the very next week. It was also a rare top 10 hit to spend a very small number of weeks in the top 40 - enjoying a short-lived tenure on the top 40 - having spent 6 weeks in total. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 6:38:42 GMT -5
No. That honor went to "Erotica" by Madonna which debuted at #2 in 1992 (it was also the peak position of said song). Yes, "Erotica", a song that many radio stations refused to play, had the highest debut in AT40 history. It debuted at #2 on October 17, 1992, most likely held that spot for one week, and by Halloween it was on the way down. "Erotica" was also the #90 song of 1992, possibly the lowest position on a year-end countdown for a #2 song. In 1991, Madonna's "Rescue Me" was credited for having the highest debut on the Hot 100 in 21 years at that time (debuting at #15 in February or March 1991, I think?). Interestingly enough, it was uncertain if it would enter the top 10 (I predicted a #11 peak position originally). It did - it reached #9, but fell out of the top 10 the very next week. It was also a rare top 10 hit to spend a very small number of weeks in the top 40 - enjoying a short-lived tenure on the top 40 - having spent 6 weeks in total. Wait....Erotica DEBUTED at #2 on AT40 in 92 or on the Hot 100??? |
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Post by dukelightning on Apr 10, 2012 8:00:11 GMT -5
"Erotica" debuted at 2 on AT40 and 13 on the Hot 100. Now someone else can explain that because the Soundscan era Hot 100 was designed to have the really high debuts instead of the component charts. Was AT40 using a strictly airplay only chart at this time?
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Post by jlthorpe on Apr 10, 2012 8:00:13 GMT -5
Yes, up until 1992, the highest debut on the Hot 100 was The Beatles' "Let It Be", which debuted at #6 in 1970. It wasn't until 1995 that a song debuted higher, and that was Michael and Janet Jackson's "Scream", which debuted at #5. The Notorious B.I.G. tied the record soon after by debuting at #5 with, I believe, "One More Chance". Then Michael beat the record again that year, by being the first artist to debut at #1, with "You Are Not Alone".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 8:14:40 GMT -5
"Erotica" debuted at 2 on AT40 and 13 on the Hot 100. Now someone else can explain that because the Soundscan era Hot 100 was designed to have the really high debuts instead of the component charts. Was AT40 using a strictly airplay only chart at this time? And I guess it didn't go to #1? So, it debuted and dropped. Always good for the credibility to have that happen. |
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Post by briguy52748 on Apr 10, 2012 9:43:54 GMT -5
Incidentally, the top debut during the pre-Soundscan era of "American Country Coutndown" (1973-1991) was ...
Eddie Rabbitt's "Every Which Way But Loose," which came in at No. 18 back in January 1979, and eventually made its way to No. 1 for three weeks. Ironically, it was the Jersey Boy's longest-run ever at No. 1 on either the Hot Country Singles or Billboard Hot 100, beating out his official biggest hit, "I Love a Rainy Night."
Rabbitt's record stood for more than 25 years, until it was tied in November 2005 by Garth Brooks, who debuted at No. 18 with "Good Ride Cowboy." Since then, the record has been surpassed just three times, including the only No. 1 debut on the Hot Country Songs chart's history:
• "Once in a Lifetime" by Keith Urban in September 2006. Taking its first bow at a record No. 17, the song eventually stalled in popularity and peaked a month later at No. 6.
• "Don't Blink" by Kenny Chesney in September 2007. Debuted at No. 16 and eventually climbed to No. 1.
And then, we had "More than a Memory" by Garth Brooks, the ONLY song in the 68-year history of the Hot Country Songs chart to debut at No. 1. This happened on Sept. 15, 2007, only a week after Chesney set the record. The ironic thing is that it did not beget a record-setting run at No. 1 – "More than a Memory" in fact dropped to No. 8 the next week, then slid to No. 10 in a week that it threatened to fall out of the top 10 altogether, only to rebound and eventually get as high as No. 2 in early December before beginning its final descent, finally dropping out of the top 10 the week of Christmas.
Because the Hot Country Songs chart is compiled through airplay only, it's unlikely a song will ever again debut at No. 1 on the chart (in fact, no song has ever come close since) ... but never say never.
Brian
P.S. – Incidentally, "Every Which Way But Loose" was just the second song ever to debut within the top 40 since 1973 (and the use of the 100-position chart, which has since been shortened to 60 songs). The first: Ronnie Milsap and an eventual three-week No. 1, "Only One Love in My Life" from June 1978; Ronnie came in at No. 32.
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Post by jmorgan on Apr 10, 2012 10:42:49 GMT -5
Make that four times, briguy. This week, the new Kenny Chesney/Tim McGraw duet "Feel Like A Rock Star" debuts at #13 on the whole chart.
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Post by Hervard on Apr 10, 2012 11:06:40 GMT -5
"Erotica" was also the #90 song of 1992, possibly the lowest position on a year-end countdown for a #2 song. Not quite. In 1977, "Float On" by the Floaters peaked at #2, but due to its short chart tenure, came in at #91 on the AT40 Top 100. |
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Apr 10, 2012 12:36:25 GMT -5
This makes me wonder how Casey would have announced a song that debuted at #1. I'm sure there would have been lots of fanfare.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 13:03:05 GMT -5
Well, no one that week could have claimed "on our way to a brand new #1" was ruining the surprise. ;D
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