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Post by matt on May 8, 2016 20:19:23 GMT -5
Because for some, that rational explanation will make no sense and go in one ear and out the other. Only a response talking about how Premiere and Toby Petty having a personal vendetta against all of us listeners, let alone the great Billy Idol, will seem plausible. If I remember correctly, "Typical Male" by Tina Turner may have always been edited whenever a Fall 1986 show would be aired by Premiere. Don't know if it's due to questionable lyrics or something. But if questionable lyrics was the reason for editing "Typical Male", one would think "Rumors" by Timex Social Club would be edited too, as some of the lyrics may be interpreted the wrong way (like referring to the lyric that starts "Did you hear the one about Michael") - those lyrics are kept intact on Premiere's airings. Of course, I could be dead wrong on both examples. You often cite questionable lyrics as a reason that Premiere may edit songs or choose not to play certain shows that contain certain songs. However, I don't see it...some of the more suggestive songs have been played several times over on classic AT40 shows, not the least of which is George Michael's "I Want Your Sex" (a song that was banned by several dozen radio stations at the time of its release). I do think some lyrics have been edited out over time (one that comes to mind is ZZ Top's "Legs" with a certain line that says "sh** I got to have her"), but I don't think that Premiere removes entire parts of songs or avoids certain shows because of questionable lyrics.
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Post by mkarns on May 8, 2016 20:39:10 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, "Typical Male" by Tina Turner may have always been edited whenever a Fall 1986 show would be aired by Premiere. Don't know if it's due to questionable lyrics or something. But if questionable lyrics was the reason for editing "Typical Male", one would think "Rumors" by Timex Social Club would be edited too, as some of the lyrics may be interpreted the wrong way (like referring to the lyric that starts "Did you hear the one about Michael") - those lyrics are kept intact on Premiere's airings. Of course, I could be dead wrong on both examples. You often cite questionable lyrics as a reason that Premiere may edit songs or choose not to play certain shows that contain certain songs. However, I don't see it...some of the more suggestive songs have been played several times over on classic AT40 shows, not the least of which is George Michael's "I Want Your Sex" (a song that was banned by several dozen radio stations at the time of its release). I do think some lyrics have been edited out over time (one that comes to mind is ZZ Top's "Legs" with a certain line that says "sh** I got to have her"), but I don't think that Premiere removes entire parts of songs or avoids certain shows because of questionable lyrics. Speaking of avoiding shows because of questionable song lyrics, it may be worth noting that Premiere has never played either of the October 1972 shows with Chuck Berry's "My Ding-a-Ling" at #1. Of course, shows from that year get B's anyway, so stations that have problems with the song on top need not play that countdown at all if offered.
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Post by slf on May 8, 2016 21:00:38 GMT -5
Boy, Casey and his staff messed up big time in their response to that trivia question about Number One songs mentioning actual places in the title. They only mentioned five: El Paso/Marty Robbins, Kansas City/Wilbert Harrison, Calcutta/Lawrence Welk, MacArthur Park/Donna Summer, and Africa/Toto. They left out at least five more: The Poor People Of Paris/Les Baxter, Georgia On My Mind/Ray Charles, The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia/Vicki Lawrence, Midnight Train To Georgia/Gladys Knight & The Pips, and Hotel California/The Eagles. Yes, but note the difference in the songs you listed and those that were given by Casey in the program: Casey's answer contains titles that consist only of the name of a place. All the ones you list have the name of a place within a bigger title. Something tells me that AT40 was going for song titles that consisted of a proper name of a place and no more than that. Yeah, I do believe you are right. That subtle difference dawned on me a couple of hours AFTER I posted my comment. I guess I didn't listen carefully to Casey's trivial question.
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Post by johnnywest on May 9, 2016 7:26:08 GMT -5
And none of you got your facts straight. 1969 - Zager and Evans' "In the Year 2525 (Exordium & Terminus)" was the first No. 1 hit whose act was listed under "Z." Meaning that Zayn's "Pillowtalk" is at least the second. Brian I think Seacrest was actually referring to the American Top 40 era and that started one year after Zager and Evans #1 song in 1969. Correct, Ryan did say "AT40 history."
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Post by kchkwong on May 9, 2016 9:48:05 GMT -5
Predictions for the optional extras:
The One That You Love - Air Supply Modern Girl - Sheena Easton Double Dutch Bus - Frankie Smith Nobody Wins - Elton John
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Post by matt on May 9, 2016 10:49:57 GMT -5
Optional extra predictions for 5/16/81:
"The One That You Love" - Air Supply "Jones Vs Jones" - Kool and the Gang "Modern Girl" - Sheena Easton "Super Trouper" - Abba
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Post by Mike on May 9, 2016 15:07:11 GMT -5
OK, so I probably could have worded the clue differently had I checked the week's Hot 100 before posting - otherwise I wouldn't have just given Air Supply away. That said, nobody did end up getting the curveball. (It may be no wonder - whod've thought Premiere would pick a 50s/60s-sounding song?) Props to those who thought of George Harrison's Hot 100 debut the following week, though. This week's extras are: Get Wet - Just So Lonely Sheena Easton - Modern Girl Air Supply - The One That You Love George Harrison - All Those Years Ago jmack19 wins this week, getting all but the curveball. This week's issues of Billboard: May 16, 19811981 Hot 100 chartsMay 14, 19881988 Hot 100 chartsThis week's 1988 has the news that the planned Memorial Day and July 4 special shows would go on as scheduled. It's among the week's Featured [Radio] Programming notes, wedged inbetween the Hot Crossover 30 and Adult Contemporary charts about a fourth of the way in.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 17:10:44 GMT -5
Why anyone spends more than 4 seconds of their life caring about OE's in any way baffles me. They are such a source of angst here I don't know why some don't seek out stations that don't air them at all.
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Post by BrettVW on May 9, 2016 19:42:51 GMT -5
I agree with that as well. I never understood the obsession over segments that aren't even part of the original shows and are nothing more than a time filler for stations
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Post by 80sat40fan on May 9, 2016 20:57:35 GMT -5
Why anyone spends more than 4 seconds of their life caring about OE's in any way baffles me. They are such a source of angst here I don't know why some don't seek out stations that don't air them at all. Paul.. If an original extra from a 70s show gets bounced to optional extra status, then I appreciate hearing it played as an optional extra. Otherwise, I am perfectly fine hearing none of the Premiere extras if they were not part of the original show. Having said that... when some here have been guessing optional extras for 7 1/2 years (I have for 4)... it gives us something to do here that provides a little entertainment. If we enjoy predicting who will be drafted first in the NFL draft, or who will become the Republican or Democratic nominee for president... then predicting the optional extras is our way of having fun here. The few times I have gone 3 for 3 or 4 for 4... it's a cool feeling. Going 0 for 3 or 0 for 4...eh, not so much!
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on May 9, 2016 23:42:51 GMT -5
As I've mentioned somewhere on here previously, the OE's don't make or break a show for me. I like that Premiere has done that with the remastered shows, and I enjoy listening to them. If they're not there, I'm not disappointed, as I still get to listen to the show itself. Although someday I may talk myself into guessing extras (which does look like fun, and is for some as mentioned in the previous post) - just lacking in free time and/or focus. Now, back to the countdown...
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 4:38:37 GMT -5
Why anyone spends more than 4 seconds of their life caring about OE's in any way baffles me. They are such a source of angst here I don't know why some don't seek out stations that don't air them at all. Paul.. If an original extra from a 70s show gets bounced to optional extra status, then I appreciate hearing it played as an optional extra. Otherwise, I am perfectly fine hearing none of the Premiere extras if they were not part of the original show. Having said that... when some here have been guessing optional extras for 7 1/2 years (I have for 4)... it gives us something to do here that provides a little entertainment. If we enjoy predicting who will be drafted first in the NFL draft, or who will become the Republican or Democratic nominee for president... then predicting the optional extras is our way of having fun here. The few times I have gone 3 for 3 or 4 for 4... it's a cool feeling. Going 0 for 3 or 0 for 4...eh, not so much! I don't care about the guessing aspect. It doesn't interest me but knock yourself out. I am referring to people who then sit and gripe about them being edited or station x didn't play any this week or skipped one or played one from last week. When it becomes such a crutch it is used as a main point of contention to complain about the show each week then the person or people need to quit listening to them. This is what it has become for some people. Want to guess? Be my guest. Want to constantly complain AND OFFER NOTHING ELSE BUT? Something else entirely.
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Post by Rodney on May 10, 2016 7:38:52 GMT -5
Paul.. If an original extra from a 70s show gets bounced to optional extra status, then I appreciate hearing it played as an optional extra. Otherwise, I am perfectly fine hearing none of the Premiere extras if they were not part of the original show. Having said that... when some here have been guessing optional extras for 7 1/2 years (I have for 4)... it gives us something to do here that provides a little entertainment. If we enjoy predicting who will be drafted first in the NFL draft, or who will become the Republican or Democratic nominee for president... then predicting the optional extras is our way of having fun here. The few times I have gone 3 for 3 or 4 for 4... it's a cool feeling. Going 0 for 3 or 0 for 4...eh, not so much! I don't care about the guessing aspect. It doesn't interest me but knock yourself out. I am referring to people who then sit and gripe about them being edited or station x didn't play any this week or skipped one or played one from last week. When it becomes such a crutch it is used as a main point of contention to complain about the show each week then the person or people need to quit listening to them. This is what it has become for some people. Want to guess? Be my guest. Want to constantly complain AND OFFER NOTHING ELSE BUT? Something else entirely. The answers are all on the 8-23-75 show... :-) The #6 song popped into my mind when reading all this... I pretty much agree with Paul on this... but that song was playing in my head as I read all of these conversations.... I'm sure some think a lot of what people write on these boards is just... #16 on this show.... maybe that's just... #19 on this show... That's just my #35 on the subject... :-) Hope all of this answers... #34 on the show. We'll probably be talking about this stuff... #32 on the show. Lastly, maybe everything I've written here is nuthin' but a bunch of... #4 on the show... Hope you've enjoyed my rambling...
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Post by at40nut on May 10, 2016 11:21:28 GMT -5
I personally take optional extras at face value. That's just what they are OPTIONAL EXTRAS. Certain shows have there edits and boo boos sure, but it always fascinating to hear single versions which you don't hear on the radio anymore and that's what enjoy the most about Classic AT40. When I first started listening to Classic AT40-The 80's on KGOR, they hardly ever played optional extras, so I am so used to not hearing them and it doesn't bother me that much. If there were no editing now or then, you wouldn't hear those fascinating stories and commentary that Casey always provided, which is another aspect that I love about Classic AT40. I hate "No Nuthin's". I am avid music lover with a library of CD's and records and even Spotify, so I can always hear album versions of songs at ANY time. Those unique edits and single versions of songs you hear on the old countdowns, you only get to hear 3 to 4 hours at a time over the weekend if you are lucky. Sometimes I get annoyed at certain edits, but I don't make them a mission statement. At the end of the day or countdown, take a look at the big picture, so just sit back and enjoy them.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 11:41:59 GMT -5
I personally take optional extras at face value. That's just what they are OPTIONAL EXTRAS. Certain shows have there edits and boo boos sure, but it always fascinating to hear single versions which you don't hear on the radio anymore and that's what enjoy the most about Classic AT40. When I first started listening to Classic AT40-The 80's on KGOR, they hardly ever played optional extras, so I am so used to not hearing them and it doesn't bother me that much. If there were no editing now or then, you wouldn't hear those fascinating stories and commentary that Casey always provided, which is another aspect that I love about Classic AT40. I hate "No Nuthin's". I am avid music lover with a library of CD's and records and even Spotify, so I can always hear album versions of songs at ANY time. Those unique edits and single versions of songs you hear on the old countdowns, you only get to hear 3 to 4 hours at a time over the weekend if you are lucky. Sometimes I get annoyed at certain edits, but I don't make them a mission statement. At the end of the day or countdown, take a look at the big picture, so just sit back and enjoy them. I will play devils advocate on something. You said you can hear the album versions of songs any time and like the single edits/radio edits you hear on countdowns and all. It depends. Sometimes the single edit becomes the dominant version of the song and it's more difficult to hear the original. Case in point, the recently deceased Prince. The longer versions of "When Doves Cry" and "1999" are not on greatest hits albums or "The Hits/B-Sides" from 1993. You have to buy the original albums in order to hear those versions. The majority of the time, yes the album version is on the greatest hits, etc of an artist but not always.
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