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Post by mct1 on May 5, 2015 13:42:40 GMT -5
Right--I'm thinking Dark Side has fallen off and re-entered a number of times over the years. Even by the end of 1988 it would re-enter if my memory serves correct... Correct on both counts. In fact, DSOTM actually re-entered the album chart the same week as this countdown, after just one week off (I think Casey stated that it had fallen off “last week”, which was correct.) I assume that when the show was written and recorded, AT40 staff hadn’t yet seen the album chart for the week, and weren’t aware that it had re-entered. DSOTM originally debuted on the Top 200 album chart the week of March 17, 1973. It initially spent 84 weeks on the Top 200 before falling off in October 1974. In the course of this, it spent 58 weeks in the Top 40. 51 of these were consecutive weeks between March 1973 and March 1974, starting with DSOTM’s third week on the chart. A few months later, it returned to the Top 40 for a further 7 consecutive weeks between May 1974 and July 1974. After DSOTM fell off the Top 200 in October 1974, it was completely off the chart for several months. DSOTM re-entered the album chart in April 1975. It racked up a further 48 weeks before falling off in March 1976, bringing its overall total up to 132 weeks. After its re-entry, it quickly climbed all the way back into the Top 40, spending 5 weeks there in May and June, rising as high as #22 (this brought its weeks in the Top 40 up to 63). Pink Floyd launched a U.S. tour around the same time DSOTM re-charted, which may explain its resurgence in popularity, although I’m surprised that a tour alone would have caused a two-year-old album to chart so high. DSOTM experienced another sales surge when Pink Floyd’s new album Wish You Were Here was released in September 1975, with DSOTM climbing as high as #60 the following month. Once again, after DSOTM fell off the Top 200 in March 1976, it was completely off the chart for several months. (Note: in Casey’s comments on the 5/7/88 show, he mentioned that DSOTM had fallen off the album chart in 1976, but made no suggestion that it had ever been off the chart otherwise, ignoring its absence in late 1974/early 1975. I’m guessing that AT40 staff were aware that the last time DSOTM had been off the album chart was in 1976, but had no information about what happened before that.) DSOTM re-entered the album chart again in December 1976. This could have been due to the build-up for the band’s new album Animals, which was released in January 1977; DSOTM would rise as high as #65 in its wake. Even after Animals drifted down the chart, though, DSOTM remained a more-or-less permanent fixture on the Top 200. The streak that began in December 1976 would not end until April 1988, racking up 593 consecutive weeks, for an overall total of 725 weeks. Throughout this period, DSOTM moved up and down the chart numerous times. It spent a fair amount of time very low on the chart, especially in the late ‘70s, but never fell completely off. I guess over time it got a reputation among retailers as an album that always sold, and was always included in their reports to Billboard. On the other hand, there were times when it rose up the chart. DSOTM enjoyed a significant sales surge when The Wall was released, climbing as high as #44 in February 1980. Another surge, probably related to the movie “The Wall”, would see DSOTM as high as #96 in January 1982. That was the last time it ever cracked the top 100, although it would be as high as #110 as late as April 1986, and #130 as late as January 1988. In the weeks leading up to its disappearance from the chart in April 1988, DSOTM didn’t seem to be doing especially badly, and I don’t think it was obvious that it was about to fall off. As recently as 4/2/88, it had been up at #137. As Casey stated on the 5/7/88 show, it did drop from #164 to #198 on 4/23/88, its last week before falling off. But DSOTM had dropped down into the lower reaches of the chart many times before without falling off. Of the twelve calendar years from 1977 to 1988, it had spent at least one week at #190 or below in ten of them (the only exceptions were 1982 and 1985). It had been at #200 on 3/12/88, at #197 in September 1987, and had spent one week at #200 followed by three consecutive weeks at #199 at one point in 1983. In any event, when the 4/30/1988 issue of Billboard came out, DSOTM was absent from the Top 200, for the first time in more than 11 years. After just one week off, DSOTM re-appeared the week of 5/7/88, debuting at #182. The following week, it dropped to #200. It then bounced back up, though, and things seemed to be back to business as usual. By early June, it was up to #151. DSOTM began dropping, however, and fell off the chart again after the week of 7/16/88. It was now up to 736 weeks on the Top 200. DSOTM would return to the traditionally formatted Top 200 one last time on the week of 9/10/88, spending five weeks on the chart, never climbing higher than #187. Its final week was 10/8/88, at #195. That marked a total of 741 weeks on the album chart.
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Post by mga707 on May 5, 2015 14:03:58 GMT -5
KISC did not play AT40 - the 80's this morning, despite their website showing Casey Kasem as "On Air" from 8 am to noon PT. I'm hoping this was simply a mixup and not a sign that KISC dropped the show. I will be especially disappointed since I just discovered this station and was using them as my backup option. I believe that was a case of the station not liking the options of 1988 & 1980(which was played last year). I think there were other stations that passed on the shows as well. One station played 1984 on Saturday. I have nothing but contempt for any station that would do that. If you call yourself an oldies station that plays the '80s, then play the d#%* music from that decade, not just a part of it!
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Post by mkarns on May 5, 2015 14:21:25 GMT -5
I believe that was a case of the station not liking the options of 1988 & 1980(which was played last year). I think there were other stations that passed on the shows as well. One station played 1984 on Saturday. I have nothing but contempt for any station that would do that. If you call yourself an oldies station that plays the '80s, then play the d#%* music from that decade, not just a part of it! Except the definition of an "80s" station has been limited by years of "research" and corporate decision making, so that it mostly encompasses what was popular on MTV from about 1982-87, and the beginning and end of the decade get short shrift. I could sort of understand such a station not warming to the music from the 1980 show, much of which sounded 70s in all but name, but not so much 1988; it wasn't yet THAT close to the 90s or different from the core of the decade.
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Post by Mike on May 6, 2015 0:47:09 GMT -5
seminolefan wins this week, as the only one to guess more than one correct. Too many guesses for the top hits this week. The two biggest were the two guessed, but that means the other two were overlooked completely. This week's extras are: Karla Bonoff - Personally The Dazz Band - Let it Whip Queen - Body Language John Cougar - Hurts So Good BTW since no one posted what the 1987 extras were two years ago, those are: Debbie Gibson - Only in My Dreams Expose - Point of No Return Crowded House - Something So Strong T'Pau - Heart and Soul
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Post by matt on May 6, 2015 13:20:12 GMT -5
Predictions for next week's show:
1st Guess: 5/17/86 2nd Guess: 5/16/87
I will be mildly surprised if we don't get 1986 next weekend--if not, they will end up having to repeat a show that's been played in the last 3-4 years or wait until almost July, which won't happen. They could dip back six days and play a new show (5/10/86), but the guess is that they stick with 5/17/86 since it's more in line with the current date of May 16th. If so, we will have ourselves a repeat from 2008 which was first introed by Ed McMann.
If it's a new show, 5/16/87 would make sense. 5/16/81 would be a new show too, but it would be a quick turnaround from the last '81 show after a loooong break from 1981.
One caveat--I believe the 5/17/86 show included a segment where Casey brought up Dark Side of the Moon in regard to it's incredible run on the album chart (I'm thinking it had broken the all time record for most weeks on the chart in recent weeks--surpassing Johnny Mathis' Greatest Hits LP). Given that DSOTM was a topic for discussion for Casey during the 5/7/88 show, it would be interesting to know if that was considered when Première selected shows... that is if the pick is in fact 5/17/86.
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Post by Mike on May 6, 2015 16:22:06 GMT -5
One caveat--I believe the 5/17/86 show included a segment where Casey brought up Dark Side of the Moon in regard to it's incredible run on the album chart (I'm thinking it had broken the all time record for most weeks on the chart in recent weeks--surpassing Johnny Mathis' Greatest Hits LP). Given that DSOTM was a topic for discussion for Casey during the 5/7/88 show, it would be interesting to know if that was considered when Première selected shows... that is if the pick is in fact 5/17/86. So the Johnny Mathis record was broken in '86? That'd mean Mathis holding the record is what we'll hear about between #24 and #23 in this weekend's '82...
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Post by secretman on May 8, 2015 10:10:46 GMT -5
I've found a "B" show broadcast for this week: WISM-Magic 98: "Sunday 5/10/15. 12-4pm: The hits from the week of May 9, 1987"
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Post by darnall42 on May 8, 2015 11:54:21 GMT -5
July 30th 1983 show just starting on aussie station 2NVR nambucca valley radio
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Post by secretman on May 8, 2015 12:14:38 GMT -5
I've found another "B" show broadcast for this week: KGOR - Superhits 99.9: Sunday 5/10/15. 9 am - 12 pm: “On our Sunday, May 9 broadcast, we go back to May 9, 1987. Check out where the hits landed on this weekend in 1987. See The Chart for May 9, 1987”
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Post by 1finemrg on May 8, 2015 12:56:30 GMT -5
DSOTM would return to the traditionally formatted Top 200 one last time on the week of 9/10/88, spending five weeks on the chart, never climbing higher than #187. Its final week was 10/8/88, at #195. That marked a total of 741 weeks on the album chart. Starting with the issue dated December 5, 2009, the catalog limitations which removed albums over 18 months old, that have dropped below position 100 and have no currently-running single, from the Billboard 200 were lifted. The chart is now an all-inclusive list of the 200 highest-selling albums in the country. Since then "Dark Side Of The Moon" has added another 164 weeks and stands at 905 weeks as of the charts dated May 16, 2015.
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Post by dukelightning on May 8, 2015 15:56:33 GMT -5
Did Casey revert back to his mid to late 70s self when he capped the top 3 recap by saying this week's #1 song would set a new record? All 3 songs in that recap stood a chance to be #1. We know what was #1. So is that obviously the record he was counting to? If it was "I Love Rock & Roll", that would have been its 8th week at #1. Not aware of any record that would have set. If it was "Ebony and Ivory", that would have set a record for most appearances on a #1 song by the artists involved. It was the 28th for Paul and the 7th for Stevie so it was 35 appearances on #1 songs by those 2 artists combined. I suppose there was enough doubt about what was going to be #1 and not knowing what records could be set for Casey to be giving away the #1 song with what he said.
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Post by blackbowl68 on May 8, 2015 16:48:36 GMT -5
Did Casey revert back to his mid to late 70s self when he capped the top 3 recap by saying this week's #1 song would set a new record? All 3 songs in that recap stood a chance to be #1. We know what was #1. So is that obviously the record he was counting to? If it was "I Love Rock & Roll", that would have been its 8th week at #1. Not aware of any record that would have set. If it was "Ebony and Ivory", that would have set a record for most appearances on a #1 song by the artists involved. It was the 28th for Paul and the 7th for Stevie so it was 35 appearances on #1 songs by those 2 artists combined. I suppose there was enough doubt about what was going to be #1 and not knowing what records could be set for Casey to be giving away the #1 song with what he said. Nah, Duke. I think he left this one WIDE open!
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Post by mga707 on May 8, 2015 17:03:03 GMT -5
Wow. Hate to say anything bad about a dedication to someone's late mother, but if ever an LDD brought a show to a screeching halt it was the interminable "I.O.U." in the final hour of this one!
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Post by darnall42 on May 9, 2015 1:15:05 GMT -5
suprisingly 2SWR are going with the 1987 option
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Post by Mike on May 9, 2015 3:53:38 GMT -5
Quick posting here.
Next week's "A" show previously aired in 2008, and is from 5/17/1986.
The "B" show previously aired in 2012, and is from 5/19/1984. Extras for that remain the same.
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