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Post by carlihna on Jun 26, 2014 10:10:51 GMT -5
It's no different than ordering a pay per view boxing show, wrestling show, movie, or whatever else. The sporting events do and I think movies still do too. The disclaimer at the start says any unauthorized REPRODUCTION is prohibited. This means any recording, personal or otherwise is against the law. Did I do it for years? Yes I did. My justification? I paid $30-$50 for these shows I have the right to keep a copy for myself. My justification however was still illegal. So are the people who watch on illegal streams. Their justification is it's too expensive and I can't justify the cost. So here we are on this. The justification is I just want a copy for myself. It doesn't make it any less illegal. Please understand I am not trying to browbeat anyone with this but that's the law. One we've all been guilty of breaking in one form or another for years over one thing or another. But the fact is it's illegal and the board bosses say they are going to have a zero tolerance policy to it. The above example was to try to give you a different perspective of looking at it and drawing the correlation to this. In each and every case, you are taking $$ away from those who deserve to be paid for their product or they perceive you are. So here's my question then: how is recording AT40s or any other radio show and different than recording 24, Grey's Anatomy, the Super Bowl, Shawshank Redemption, or any other TV show or movie using your TiVo or cable/satellite provided DVR? If what you're saying is true (and this does include even PPV movies, which DirecTV allows you to record and keep on your DVR, often indefinitely), then copyright infringement would be committed multiple times a day by millions of people who own a DVR. And this is obviously not the case, or DVRs would either not be legal, or would be vastly more limited in what they could record. I am no lawyer, but I don't believe that recording shows is a violation of copyright laws. I *am* a lawyer. Interesting topic. I'll think about it and look into it, and I can post information and additional thoughts, if anyone would like that. Take care, Carlihna
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Post by mellongraig on Jun 26, 2014 10:17:44 GMT -5
Hooray - we've reached 1000 pages! ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by darnall42 on Jun 26, 2014 10:23:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 13:47:31 GMT -5
This weeks extras:
Hour #1: "A Little Bit More" - Dr. Hook Hour #2: "Something He Can Feel" - Aretha Franklin Hour #3: "Play That Funky Music" - Wild Cherry
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Post by at40petebattistini on Jun 26, 2014 14:44:49 GMT -5
Here's a clue for next weekend's 70s show ... it happened only once before.
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Post by mkarns on Jun 26, 2014 14:59:07 GMT -5
Here's a clue for next weekend's 70s show ... it happened only once before. My first guess is the Top 40 Acts of the 70s So Far, originally aired in July 1978 and played by Premiere once before, in 2011.
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jun 26, 2014 15:20:45 GMT -5
It would only make too much sense for Premiere to air the very first show the first weekend in July. I will be quite surprised if it's not... Scott has confirmed that it's part of the tribute package being offered to stations. In other words, they can air it whenever they'd like for a certain amount of time, probably through July 4th weekend. Correct.
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Post by BrettVW on Jun 26, 2014 15:26:35 GMT -5
Do we have a list of all the shows being offered? It seems to me it is the year end shows, the first show, and the last show from 2004. Are there any others that are currently offered?
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Post by johnnywest on Jun 26, 2014 20:15:48 GMT -5
The Top 100 of 1998 and possibly more 90s shows.
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Post by darnall42 on Jun 27, 2014 5:15:53 GMT -5
Magic 98 are going to air the shows from may 12th 1973,september 23rd 1978,June 7th 1986 and july 4th 1970 on thier July 4th AT40 marathon www.magic98.com/pages/14658306.php
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 5:25:49 GMT -5
Do they normally air both shows each week? That's quite a jump from 78 to 86.
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Post by darnall42 on Jun 27, 2014 5:40:14 GMT -5
Do they normally air both shows each week? That's quite a jump from 78 to 86. They air the 80s show on a sunday at noon local time
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Post by dougbroda on Jun 27, 2014 5:46:53 GMT -5
So here's my question then: how is recording AT40s or any other radio show and different than recording 24, Grey's Anatomy, the Super Bowl, Shawshank Redemption, or any other TV show or movie using your TiVo or cable/satellite provided DVR? If what you're saying is true (and this does include even PPV movies, which DirecTV allows you to record and keep on your DVR, often indefinitely), then copyright infringement would be committed multiple times a day by millions of people who own a DVR. And this is obviously not the case, or DVRs would either not be legal, or would be vastly more limited in what they could record. I am no lawyer, but I don't believe that recording shows is a violation of copyright laws. I *am* a lawyer. Interesting topic. I'll think about it and look into it, and I can post information and additional thoughts, if anyone would like that. Take care, Carlihna Another lawyer here (albeit one whose average client is about 11 years old, and definitely not a copyright lawyer)... but still: The analysis in this area starts with Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417 (1984), www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/cases/464_US_417.htm -- the case that held that VCRs were not illegal because the recording of TV shows for time shifting purposes was "fair use" under the copyright law. That initial principle has thereafter been debated in hundreds of cases as to its applicability to other related/similar areas. The debate as to the limits thereof continues -- just this week, people are debating if the new Supreme Court decision banning Aereo has any potential impact in this area or is unrelated thereto.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 6:48:50 GMT -5
There is a difference though between a program you are recording for "time shifting" like from CBS or even TBS, and ordering a pay per view movie or event with the express intent to record it. Those disclaimers at the start aren't there for enjoyment and pleasure.
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