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Post by waterboy on Sept 16, 2019 11:07:20 GMT -5
As we head into the final 3 months of 2019, what surveys from 1970-1971-1972 have the best chances of getting the mono2stereo conversion from Ken Martin? October: 1970 has 10/17 and 10/24 not converted, but 1970 already had a show in August and September, so highly unlikely we get another in Oct. 1971 has all October shows converted already. 9/25 has not been converted, but they just had 8/21 played, so this is unlikely. 1972 has 10/14 as only show not converted, this looks like good possibility. I give it 80% chance. November: 1970 has 11/14 and 11/28 not converted. 11/14 unlikely, too soon and 11/28 a slightly better chance, maybe 20% 1971 has 11/27. This show has best chance of being converted of remaining unconverted 1971 shows for 2019. 1972 has 11/11 as only unconverted show. If 10/14/72 is not played, 11/11 will be 100%. December: 1970 has 12/12 as only unconverted show. This show has best chance of remaining 1970 shows this year. 1971 has 12/4 as only unconverted show. They are not going to go "back to back" with 1970 and 1971, so this show only has a shot if 12/12/70 will not played. 1972 has 12/16 as only unconverted show. 10/14 or 11/11 should be played, 12/16 has to wait till another year. In December I will update the remaining mono shows from all months waiting for the mono2stereo conversion from Ken. Super Job Ken! I checked my copy of 12/12/70 and 12/4/71 (both from 2013) and found that at least some songs are in stereo. On the other hand, my copy of 11/18/72 (also from 2013) is in mono. This show was re-aired a year later in 2014 but I didn't record it. Was that in stereo? I was not listening to AT40 stations until late 2015. I do not have 12/12/70 or 12/04/71 to check for stereo. According to my info obtained from Ken, the first mono2stereo conversion was done on the 8/12/72 show in 2014. The first discussion about stereo in this forum was found on page 1009. We need clarification from Pete or somebody really involved to answer how some songs were stereo on those shows. According to my records, the 11/18/72 show re-aired in 2015 was done by Ken with mono2stereo. Again, sorry to say, I missed that one also.
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Post by waterboy on Sept 16, 2019 11:15:18 GMT -5
^I was always under the impression that all of these shows had been converted to stereo when they were initially remastered for the AT40 70s classic series. Most of them sound like they are now in stereo, including the shows that aired before Ken Martin started doing the conversion. Apparently that's not the case? Matt, That's what I thought when I started listening in late 2015 - shoot, I've missed 8 years of the old mono surveys re-done in stereo. I sent an email to Ken at his radio station and he graciously answered my question (forgot the question) and he said his mono2stereo conversions did not start until the 8/12/72 show aired in 2014. If somebody else did some conversion to stereo before Ken, we need to hear from them.
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Post by matt on Sept 16, 2019 11:58:48 GMT -5
^I was always under the impression that all of these shows had been converted to stereo when they were initially remastered for the AT40 70s classic series. Most of them sound like they are now in stereo, including the shows that aired before Ken Martin started doing the conversion. Apparently that's not the case? Matt, That's what I thought when I started listening in late 2015 - shoot, I've missed 8 years of the old mono surveys re-done in stereo. I sent an email to Ken at his radio station and he graciously answered my question (forgot the question) and he said his mono2stereo conversions did not start until the 8/12/72 show aired in 2014. If somebody else did some conversion to stereo before Ken, we need to hear from them.Interesting ... I always thought that Shannon Lynn did that as part of his remastery efforts. I've never been clear though on what he did versus what others did (I know Ken did post at some point that he has assisted with much of the remastering of shows in recent years).
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Post by tzmac on Sept 16, 2019 12:00:55 GMT -5
^I was always under the impression that all of these shows had been converted to stereo when they were initially remastered for the AT40 70s classic series. Most of them sound like they are now in stereo, including the shows that aired before Ken Martin started doing the conversion. Apparently that's not the case? Matt, That's what I thought when I started listening in late 2015 - shoot, I've missed 8 years of the old mono surveys re-done in stereo. I sent an email to Ken at his radio station and he graciously answered my question (forgot the question) and he said his mono2stereo conversions did not start until the 8/12/72 show aired in 2014. If somebody else did some conversion to stereo before Ken, we need to hear from them.When Shannon Lynn originally remastered the mono shows - he did not convert the shows to stereo. From memory - sometime in late 2013 the mono shows were presented in mostly stereo. Under Casey's intros & outros the music was in mono - the remaining music was replaced with a stereo version. I assume Shannon did these, but don't know that for fact. This continued until mid 2014 when Ken introduced his method of pulling Casey's vocals from the recordings - allowing him to completely replace the entire song in stereo.
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Post by at40petebattistini on Sept 16, 2019 12:47:32 GMT -5
These were the optional extras back in 2012 (we'll see if they stay put this airing or if any will change): Hour #1: "Basketball Jones" - Cheech & Chong Featuring Tyrone Shoelaces (#41) Hour #2: "Nutbush City Limits" - Ike & Tina Turner (#61) Hour #3: "Paper Roses" - Marie Osmond (#72) "Basketball Jones" is out. And one of pb's predictions -- Billy Preston's "Space Race" -- is in.
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Post by at40petebattistini on Sept 16, 2019 13:06:32 GMT -5
As we head into the final 3 months of 2019, what surveys from 1970-1971-1972 have the best chances of getting the mono2stereo conversion from Ken Martin? October: 1970 has 10/17 and 10/24 not converted, but 1970 already had a show in August and September, so highly unlikely we get another in Oct. 1971 has all October shows converted already. 9/25 has not been converted, but they just had 8/21 played, so this is unlikely. 1972 has 10/14 as only show not converted, this looks like good possibility. I give it 80% chance. November: 1970 has 11/14 and 11/28 not converted. 11/14 unlikely, too soon and 11/28 a slightly better chance, maybe 20% 1971 has 11/27. This show has best chance of being converted of remaining unconverted 1971 shows for 2019. 1972 has 11/11 as only unconverted show. If 10/14/72 is not played, 11/11 will be 100%. December: 1970 has 12/12 as only unconverted show. This show has best chance of remaining 1970 shows this year. 1971 has 12/4 as only unconverted show. They are not going to go "back to back" with 1970 and 1971, so this show only has a shot if 12/12/70 will not played. 1972 has 12/16 as only unconverted show. 10/14 or 11/11 should be played, 12/16 has to wait till another year. In December I will update the remaining mono shows from all months waiting for the mono2stereo conversion from Ken. Super Job Ken! The only thing I can clarify are upcoming shows. And all I'll say here is if waterboy's October projections are soaking wet (sorry for the pun), predictions for November and December might be a little off too. One other tidbit -- only one 1971 program is left for us in 2019.
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Post by matt on Sept 16, 2019 14:24:59 GMT -5
As we head into the final 3 months of 2019, what surveys from 1970-1971-1972 have the best chances of getting the mono2stereo conversion from Ken Martin? October: 1970 has 10/17 and 10/24 not converted, but 1970 already had a show in August and September, so highly unlikely we get another in Oct. 1971 has all October shows converted already. 9/25 has not been converted, but they just had 8/21 played, so this is unlikely. 1972 has 10/14 as only show not converted, this looks like good possibility. I give it 80% chance. November: 1970 has 11/14 and 11/28 not converted. 11/14 unlikely, too soon and 11/28 a slightly better chance, maybe 20% 1971 has 11/27. This show has best chance of being converted of remaining unconverted 1971 shows for 2019. 1972 has 11/11 as only unconverted show. If 10/14/72 is not played, 11/11 will be 100%. December: 1970 has 12/12 as only unconverted show. This show has best chance of remaining 1970 shows this year. 1971 has 12/4 as only unconverted show. They are not going to go "back to back" with 1970 and 1971, so this show only has a shot if 12/12/70 will not played. 1972 has 12/16 as only unconverted show. 10/14 or 11/11 should be played, 12/16 has to wait till another year. In December I will update the remaining mono shows from all months waiting for the mono2stereo conversion from Ken. Super Job Ken! The only thing I can clarify are upcoming shows. And all I'll say here is if waterboy's October projections are soaking wet (sorry for the pun), predictions for November and December might be a little off too. One other tidbit -- only one 1971 program is left for us in 2019. Wondering if that means that the Top 40 of 1971 is on tap at the holidays this year? Since Pete's post means we will only have gotten two '71 shows in the last six months of 2019.
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Post by briguy52748 on Sept 16, 2019 15:02:12 GMT -5
I'm guessing we'll hear an October 1971 show ... we always seem to get October 1971 every year.
Prediction of which show it will be: Not sure which specific show it is, but I seem to recall that a stretch story for country singer Freddie Hart, for his song "Easy Loving" included a tidbit about him being part of the D-Day surge 75 years ago this year.
If it is an October 1971 show, whichever week it is, that'll leave a November 1971 show for 2020.
And then I'll concur with Matt that the year-end show will be 1971.
Brian
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Post by kenmartin on Sept 16, 2019 16:41:52 GMT -5
OK, the mono2stereo thing.
Before I entered the picture in 2013 with Premiere, I believe that Shannon Lynn ATTEMPTED to replace mono copies of the songs with stereo versions but found it too time intensive and only did it for songs that had technical flaws (i.e. drop outs). Those are the only times Shannon tried to replace audio in the mono shows and he's told me there wasn't a lot of songs that he replaced.
I started doing the mono2stereo conversion for my station WTOJ in 2012. That means stereo versions of the early shows ran exclusively in Watertown, NY that have not aired nationally.
In 2013 I was asked by Toby Petty to fix a segment of a show from the week of 7/27/74. The master tape for that show had been damaged pretty severely and the first few minutes were really bad. Toby Petty asked me to fix that audio and that's when things started to take off.
I've gone back through my old emails and it looks like the first mono2stereo show I officially provided to Premiere was 9/4/71 in 2013. While that was the first show I gave Premiere, since I was working ahead, I also offered the mono2stereo version I had done for 8/22/70. Backwards, I know, but it was getting close to the air date for the August show and I didn't know if Premiere could swap out that audio in time for the airing.
I've been doing it ever since.
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Post by kchkwong on Sept 16, 2019 20:36:30 GMT -5
I've gone back through my old emails and it looks like the first mono2stereo show I officially provided to Premiere was 9/4/71 in 2013. While that was the first show I gave Premiere, since I was working ahead, I also offered the mono2stereo version I had done for 8/22/70. Backwards, I know, but it was getting close to the air date for the August show and I didn't know if Premiere could swap out that audio in time for the airing. I've been doing it ever since. The 2013 airing of the 8/22/70 show has many songs in stereo already, according to one of my old posts: For the 8/22/1970 show, is it the first time Premiere replaced so many songs with stereo version? In the past Premiere has replaced a few songs with stereo version for shows that were originally in mono. But I can't recall Premiere replaced so many. So, it looks like they used your copy in time for the airing.
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Post by waterboy on Sept 17, 2019 8:03:43 GMT -5
I've gone back through my old emails and it looks like the first mono2stereo show I officially provided to Premiere was 9/4/71 in 2013. While that was the first show I gave Premiere, since I was working ahead, I also offered the mono2stereo version I had done for 8/22/70. Backwards, I know, but it was getting close to the air date for the August show and I didn't know if Premiere could swap out that audio in time for the airing. I've been doing it ever since. The 2013 airing of the 8/22/70 show has many songs in stereo already, according to one of my old posts: For the 8/22/1970 show, is it the first time Premiere replaced so many songs with stereo version? In the past Premiere has replaced a few songs with stereo version for shows that were originally in mono. But I can't recall Premiere replaced so many. So, it looks like they used your copy in time for the airing. Thanks to Ken for clearing the mono2stereo situation up. Need a little help. The 10/03/70 show was played once in 2014. That should have been a mono2stereo conversion by Ken. Can somebody check their file and verify if it was converted to stereo? Thank You!
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Post by kenmartin on Sept 17, 2019 8:10:43 GMT -5
The 2013 airing of the 8/22/70 show has many songs in stereo already, according to one of my old posts: So, it looks like they used your copy in time for the airing. Thanks to Ken for clearing the mono2stereo situation up. Need a little help. The 10/03/70 show was played once in 2014. That should have been a mono2stereo conversion by Ken. Can somebody check their file and verify if it was converted to stereo? Thank You! I did the conversion for 10/3/70. I do remember there was one week where Premiere didn't use the stereo version and played the original mono version by mistake. I don't recall what week that might have been.
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Post by kchkwong on Sept 17, 2019 8:49:46 GMT -5
The 2013 airing of the 8/22/70 show has many songs in stereo already, according to one of my old posts: So, it looks like they used your copy in time for the airing. Thanks to Ken for clearing the mono2stereo situation up. Need a little help. The 10/03/70 show was played once in 2014. That should have been a mono2stereo conversion by Ken. Can somebody check their file and verify if it was converted to stereo? Thank You! Stereo.
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Post by matt on Sept 17, 2019 15:47:59 GMT -5
OK, the mono2stereo thing. Before I entered the picture in 2013 with Premiere, I believe that Shannon Lynn ATTEMPTED to replace mono copies of the songs with stereo versions but found it too time intensive and only did it for songs that had technical flaws (i.e. drop outs). Those are the only times Shannon tried to replace audio in the mono shows and he's told me there wasn't a lot of songs that he replaced. I started doing the mono2stereo conversion for my station WTOJ in 2012. That means stereo versions of the early shows ran exclusively in Watertown, NY that have not aired nationally. In 2013 I was asked by Toby Petty to fix a segment of a show from the week of 7/27/74. The master tape for that show had been damaged pretty severely and the first few minutes were really bad. Toby Petty asked me to fix that audio and that's when things started to take off. I've gone back through my old emails and it looks like the first mono2stereo show I officially provided to Premiere was 9/4/71 in 2013. While that was the first show I gave Premiere, since I was working ahead, I also offered the mono2stereo version I had done for 8/22/70. Backwards, I know, but it was getting close to the air date for the August show and I didn't know if Premiere could swap out that audio in time for the airing. I've been doing it ever since. Thanks for the explanation Ken -- sounds like you've put in just a little bit of work on all that.
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Post by mrjukebox on Sept 17, 2019 16:22:33 GMT -5
Prediction for next week's show:9/24/77
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