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Post by brianmichaels on Dec 29, 2018 9:09:04 GMT -5
That was a failed experiment and we won't be doing that again. Thought I read here somewhere that WTOJ's stream URL was changed - the URL I've been using is no longer functioning for a while. Can't find that post, help!! Found it! Sorry for the momentary panic. If anyone needs, here is a URL that works great: cb.streamguys1.com/wtoj.mp3? Have a happy new year everyone!!
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Post by brianmichaels on Dec 29, 2018 9:10:31 GMT -5
Thanks! Using the .mp3 extension, the file created, obviously, is an mp3.
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Post by briguy52748 on Dec 29, 2018 10:39:41 GMT -5
Coming in at #69 for the year 1972 seems too low for a #2 record with 11 weeks in the 40 like "Hurting Each Other". Especially since this was AT40's own chart rather than 'Billboard's. You’d think this’d be an addition error, but I wonder if opinion also played a role in determining charts. Hard to know what the deal is, as I’m guessing most of not all the chart statisticians have either since died or are long retired. Brian
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Post by caseyfan100 on Dec 29, 2018 11:23:21 GMT -5
Thought I read here somewhere that WTOJ's stream URL was changed - the URL I've been using is no longer functioning for a while. Can't find that post, help!! Found it! Sorry for the momentary panic. If anyone needs, here is a URL that works great: cb.streamguys1.com/wtoj.mp3? Have a happy new year everyone!! They changed their stream and now it's not available on my phone on Tunein. Is this a me problem or a they problem? Same thing with KKPR,they changed too and I can't get them on Tunein on my phone either.
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Post by slf on Dec 29, 2018 13:22:57 GMT -5
Coming in at #69 for the year 1972 seems too low for a #2 record with 11 weeks in the 40 like "Hurting Each Other". Especially since this was AT40's own chart rather than 'Billboard's. You’d think this’d be an addition error, but I wonder if opinion also played a role in determining charts. Hard to know what the deal is, as I’m guessing most of not all the chart statisticians have either since died or are long retired. Brian I agree with both of you about this year-end countdown: musically speaking it's fantastic, but as far as accuracy, it don't make a lick of sense! Let me give several examples. 1. The lead off song at #80 was Redbone's "The Witch Queen Of New Orleans", which only peaked at #21 and spent only 7 weeks in the Top 40. 2. Yet the next song, Chicago's "Saturday In The Park", peaked at #3 (What the frickandfrack?) I know it zoomed up and down the charts rather quickly, but STILL? 3. Speaking of songs peaking at #21, we had another such song show up later on in the countdown---Charlie Pride's "Kiss An Angel Good Morning". It did spend 11 weeks in the Top 40, but it ranked higher than the #2 song "Hurting Each Other". 4. Ranking even higher than Mr. Pride was Arlo Guthrie's "City Of New Orleans", which peaked at #18 and spent #9 weeks in the 40. (Where's Officer Obie when you need him?) 5. Finally, Part One of the countdown ended with Mel and Tim's "Starting All Over Again" at #41--- despite only peaking at #19 and spending 9 weeks in the 40. Maybe someone needs to "Start All Over Again" and create a year end chart that's more believable.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Dec 29, 2018 13:56:49 GMT -5
You’d think this’d be an addition error, but I wonder if opinion also played a role in determining charts. Hard to know what the deal is, as I’m guessing most of not all the chart statisticians have either since died or are long retired. Brian I agree with both of you about this year-end countdown: musically speaking it's fantastic, but as far as accuracy, it don't make a lick of sense! Let me give several examples. 1. The lead off song at #80 was Redbone's "The Witch Queen Of New Orleans", which only peaked at #21 and spent only 7 weeks in the Top 40. 2. Yet the next song, Chicago's "Saturday In The Park", peaked at #3 (What the frickandfrack?) I know it zoomed up and down the charts rather quickly, but STILL? 3. Speaking of songs peaking at #21, we had another such song show up later on in the countdown---Charlie Pride's "Kiss An Angel Good Morning". It did spend 11 weeks in the Top 40, but it ranked higher than the #2 song "Hurting Each Other". 4. Ranking even higher than Mr. Pride was Arlo Guthrie's "City Of New Orleans", which peaked at #18 and spent #9 weeks in the 40. (Where's Officer Obie when you need him?) 5. Finally, Part One of the countdown ended with Mel and Tim's "Starting All Over Again" at #41--- despite only peaking at #19 and spending 9 weeks in the 40. Maybe someone needs to "Start All Over Again" and create a year end chart that's more believable. The reason some of these songs rank where they do on a year end chart is that longevity on the Hot 100 helps more than peaking at a high chart position. Records are given credit for their entire Hot 100 chart run not just their time in the Top 40 (although it would be interesting to see a year end chart just based on Top 40 performance only).
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Post by mga707 on Dec 29, 2018 14:31:39 GMT -5
I agree with both of you about this year-end countdown: musically speaking it's fantastic, but as far as accuracy, it don't make a lick of sense! Let me give several examples. 1. The lead off song at #80 was Redbone's "The Witch Queen Of New Orleans", which only peaked at #21 and spent only 7 weeks in the Top 40. 2. Yet the next song, Chicago's "Saturday In The Park", peaked at #3 (What the frickandfrack?) I know it zoomed up and down the charts rather quickly, but STILL? 3. Speaking of songs peaking at #21, we had another such song show up later on in the countdown---Charlie Pride's "Kiss An Angel Good Morning". It did spend 11 weeks in the Top 40, but it ranked higher than the #2 song "Hurting Each Other". 4. Ranking even higher than Mr. Pride was Arlo Guthrie's "City Of New Orleans", which peaked at #18 and spent #9 weeks in the 40. (Where's Officer Obie when you need him?) 5. Finally, Part One of the countdown ended with Mel and Tim's "Starting All Over Again" at #41--- despite only peaking at #19 and spending 9 weeks in the 40. Maybe someone needs to "Start All Over Again" and create a year end chart that's more believable. The reason some of these songs rank where they do on a year end chart is that longevity on the Hot 100 helps more than peaking at a high chart position. Records are given credit for their entire Hot 100 chart run not just their time in the Top 40 (although it would be interesting to see a year end chart just based on Top 40 performance only). In 1972 AT 40 did use their own chart rather than Billboard's, for the first time. I would assume that their chart rankings were based solely on top 40 chart positions rather than entire Hot 100 runs, but perhaps not. Another song with a suspiciously low ranking was "Black and White", also ranked in the 60s (65, I think?). Granted the song had a quick top 40 run--9 weeks in the 40, 5 of those in the top 10, but hitting #1 should've counted for something, one would think.
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Post by secretman on Dec 29, 2018 14:34:38 GMT -5
They changed their stream and now it's not available on my phone on Tunein. Is this a me problem or a they problem? Same thing with KKPR,they changed too and I can't get them on Tunein on my phone either. Didn't know about the KKPR change, i've found the new url: platteradio.streamguys1.com/kkpr-aac
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 29, 2018 14:44:43 GMT -5
For those who got to hear AT40: The 70's Top 100 of 1978 on selected radio stations this weekend: Was Bob Welch's "Ebony Eyes" restored/played in full and not just one minute more or less? That song is in the first optional hour.
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Post by caseyfan100 on Dec 29, 2018 18:19:17 GMT -5
For those who got to hear AT40: The 70's Top 100 of 1978 on selected radio stations this weekend: Was Bob Welch's "Ebony Eyes" restored/played in full and not just one minute more or less? That song is in the first optional hour. I believe it played in full,it was more than two minutes at least. One thing Premier did with 1978 is to edit out some of the singing jingles like "the hits from coast to coast" and "Casey's coast to coast." Some teasers were also edited out.
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Post by briguy52748 on Dec 29, 2018 19:16:22 GMT -5
Maybe someone needs to "Start All Over Again" and create a year end chart that's more believable. Anyone? I’m game. Only question is would Helen Reddy’s “I Am Woman” and the Temptations’ “Papa Was a Rolling Stone” tank in 1972 or be held over to 1973’s year-ender? I did ask once — about “I Am Woman,” as the Tempts’ song was established as making YE 1973 — and never got an answer. I know it did not make either official YE chart, but which survey period would Helen Reddy’s women’s lib song have fallen had it ranked within a YE top 100? Brian
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Post by pb on Dec 29, 2018 19:17:51 GMT -5
In the recap at the end of the third hour of 1972 Casey called Badfinger "The Badfinger"...oops.
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Post by Hervard on Dec 29, 2018 19:44:13 GMT -5
For those who got to hear AT40: The 70's Top 100 of 1978 on selected radio stations this weekend: Was Bob Welch's "Ebony Eyes" restored/played in full and not just one minute more or less? That song is in the first optional hour. The song was played intact. Yeah, in the six-hour version of the show, the song was faded out as it was going into the first chorus, IIRC.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 21:13:30 GMT -5
The reason some of these songs rank where they do on a year end chart is that longevity on the Hot 100 helps more than peaking at a high chart position. Records are given credit for their entire Hot 100 chart run not just their time in the Top 40 (although it would be interesting to see a year end chart just based on Top 40 performance only). In 1972 AT 40 did use their own chart rather than Billboard's, for the first time. I would assume that their chart rankings were based solely on top 40 chart positions rather than entire Hot 100 runs, but perhaps not. Another song with a suspiciously low ranking was "Black and White", also ranked in the 60s (65, I think?). Granted the song had a quick top 40 run--9 weeks in the 40, 5 of those in the top 10, but hitting #1 should've counted for something, one would think. I wonder how Ben came up with those rankings, as they seemed to be based on something? I guess we'll never know.
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Post by albe on Dec 30, 2018 5:53:48 GMT -5
WTOJ will play all 6 hours of the 1972 countdown non-stop on Sunday 12/30 beginning at 9 AM Eastern (and the 1972 countdown will be in stereo). Then, on 1/6/19 beginning at 9 AM it will be all 8 hours of the 1978 countdown, non-stop. Hey Ken...does this mean we get a next 70s year ender next Sunday....maybe an expanded 1971.
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